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Post Reply Does anyone remember Zootopia for more than just its anti-prejudice message?
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Every time I frequent the Zootopia News Network website and Zootopia subreddit, and I learned that, with the exception of the fans and furries, nobody seems to talk about Zootopia in the same length as most other Disney films, most particularly the princess movies like Tangled, Frozen, and Moana.

And to me, there would have otherwise have been a lot to talk about in Zootopia, and not just its anti-prejudice message alone and how it applies to our current society. For example...



There is also the issue of world building, character development, and animation. But to me, the part I left inside the spoiler tag will always be the best part, because it represents the lengths Judy and Nick would go to keep each other alive long enough to uncover and foil that conspiracy to turn predators and prey against each other.
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I thought people remembered Zootopia for sexy rabbits.
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I thought people remembered Zootopia for sexy rabbits.


That, too. Even though we already had sexy rabbits, whether figuratively like Jessica Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, or literally like Lola Bunny from Space Jam.

But to me, the one thing that will always define Zootopia for me, outside of its message, is just Judy and Nick's friendship and teamwork with each other. It's a buddy-cop movie, so camaraderie and teamwork between two polar opposites is expected. And I like stories of camaraderie and teamwork, more so than I would heroic loners.
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Jessica, who is only a "Rabbit" because she's married to Roger, isn't bad. She's just drawn that way.

I never saw Zootopia, so other than the fox and rabbit combo, and people's fevered writings about their carnivorous ways, I don't know anything about any message it may or may not have had.

Taking it as a "buddy cop" movie, they're almost all "anti-prejudice" speaking broadly, but really they're about letting go. Lethal Weapon had the duo of a loose cannon and a by-the-book detective. The Other Guys had the uptight and controlling detective with a seedy past matched with the histrionic detective who had a multitude of talents. Cop Out was entirely forgettable. Hot Fuzz had the super cop learning to pace himself, while making a bunch of villagers actually law enforcement officers. All of them, except maybe Cop Out, had their duo overcoming their preconceptions about themselves, each other, and the world around them, but the point was that they became who they were and accepted that.
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But... was the fox Jewish, or was the rabbit Jewish

Or maybe it was that sheep who created that drug to make all of the animals rabid

No I didn't watch it fully. I just skimmed through it briefly to get the important parts.

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But... was the fox Jewish, or was the rabbit Jewish

Or maybe it was that sheep who created that drug to make all of the animals rabid

No I didn't watch it fully. I just skimmed through it briefly to get the important parts.



Same here, except from fan art, fan comics, and fan fiction. I looked up too much information from fan works, as well as the occasional wiki article. So I won't be able to enjoy Zootopia the way I would have wanted to.

That's not to say I won't watch the movie. Disney villains managed to decline over the years because they're all nothing but surprises reserved for the end, and are thus not given enough time to be fleshed out compared to their Golden Age, Dark Age, and 90's Renaissance predecessors. So instead, the heroes (e.g. Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde) had to end up carrying their respective movies on their own shoulders, even when heroes from previous Disney eras couldn't because of the aforementioned villains and their scenery-chewing.

So even I learned about too many of the movie's surprises, it's still a story about a buddy-cop duo of a bunny and a fox overcoming their differences and thus becoming a team. And I like stories about camaraderie and teamwork, more so than stories about lone heroes soloing entire armies like bad-asses.

PS: Put spoiler tags around the middle sentence. It's revealing a vital climactic plot twist that no one wants to know about until they see the movie.
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Humms wrote:

But... was the fox Jewish, or was the rabbit Jewish

Or maybe it was that sheep who created that drug to make all of the animals rabid

No I didn't watch it fully. I just skimmed through it briefly to get the important parts.



Same here, except from fan art, fan comics, and fan fiction. I looked up too much information from fan works, as well as the occasional wiki article. So I won't be able to enjoy Zootopia the way I would have wanted to.

That's not to say I won't watch the movie. Disney villains managed to decline over the years because they're all nothing but surprises reserved for the end, and are thus not given enough time to be fleshed out compared to their Golden Age, Dark Age, and 90's Renaissance predecessors. So instead, the heroes (e.g. Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde) had to end up carrying their respective movies on their own shoulders, even when heroes from previous Disney eras couldn't because of the aforementioned villains and their scenery-chewing.

So even I learned about too many of the movie's surprises, it's still a story about a buddy-cop duo of a bunny and a fox overcoming their differences and thus becoming a team. And I like stories about camaraderie and teamwork, more so than stories about lone heroes soloing entire armies like bad-asses.

PS: Put spoiler tags around the middle sentence. It's revealing a vital climactic plot twist that no one wants to know about until they see the movie.


Oh. I assumed from your profile picture that you watched it.....

I mean Ya, I get it. The whole predator and prey deal, how just because a fox is supposedly suppose to hunt the rabbit, both can eventually create a partnership.

But that's because it's a movie. Foxes and rabbits aren't buddies They chase and run

The movie did play out those characters well in all honesty. The whole two timing, sly fox making those underhanded practices, and the determined bunny that eventually outsmart even the most cunning of prey.

You know... writing and stories nn shit
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Why the hell are you critically analyzing the film, and then immersing yourself in the fan culture of Zootopia without actually seeing the movie? That's just really weird to me.

I watched it last year, it was a generic CGI movie about anthropomorphic animals. There were celebrity voices, and asinine jokes. That's about all I remember from most movies of its ilk.
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I liked the bunnies, otherwise it was just a cartoon to me. what people read into it just goes to show how far we've come to nitpick everything. however, Disney is worldly famous for plugging ideology into their stuff from their very first to their most recent. but people bring forth these ideas because their mind went there, the chances that a kid's mind went there (who this is made for) probably doesn't. like, Frozen and the connection with lesbian. I saw a love for one's sister. so the idea that something coming out with Disney doesn't have an undertone for the adults and the likes to pick at, then Disney has officially changed hands to someone less biased who just wants the money without dumping in useless undertones.
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Foxes are fun, especially this one.
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Why the hell are you critically analyzing the film, and then immersing yourself in the fan culture of Zootopia without actually seeing the movie? That's just really weird to me.

I watched it last year, it was a generic CGI movie about anthropomorphic animals. There were celebrity voices, and asinine jokes. That's about all I remember from most movies of its ilk.


Trust me, I tried to avoid spoilers. But I also wanted to look up fan art, fan fiction, and fan comics of the movie, not realizing until it was too late that they revealed pivotal plot details, from the surprise villain to the ending.
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Huh?
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People discuss Disney movies outside of what their kids are watching ad nauseum?
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The undertones of prejudice are very strong in the movie, and it gets surprisingly dark and sad at times. When I think about Zootopia, those are the things that stick out in my mind much more than the Nick x Judy ship. And I watched the whole movie without any idea of what it was about, so I wasn't looking for subtext on purpose.
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Posted 4/15/18 , edited 4/15/18
I remember that Judy was T H I C C

Needs a sequel badly with either a marriage or love child. Then we can see how crazy crap really gets LOL. I would like a bunny child or twins with a fox and bunny.



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