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White supremacist violence on the rise in the U.S.
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It's really fucked up that people are acting like a supposed rise of violent black supremacist groups are a justification for violent white supremacist groups. Even if there were a major spree of black supremacist violent crimes (there isn't) acting like that just makes the same actions from white supremacists okay makes me think of David Lawrence and Paul Spence, not because they hold that attitude, but because it's textbook fubar. If you're okay with racially motivated violence from one group but not another, you're a fucking racist. Simple as that.


This thread seems to be getting a little bit heated from the looks of it but I draw issue with your usage of the word "justification" in this post. I believe the person's justification came in the form of a possible on why "white supremacy" is rising not some sort of moral "justification" of "Well OF course its rising, its because of those non whites supremacy groups rising up, good on them I say!".
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"Just normal"? Are you seriously trying to insinuate that black people are just expected to commit hate crimes to the point where it's to be expected on a regular basis?

How else they supposed to get money for their school clothes? Got to hit a lick off them crackers, know what I mean brah?


P.S. if you're going to tell people to "do their research" concerning statistics, you'll tend to be taken a lot more seriously if you actually support your claims with statistics instead of anecdotes.

Same to you. ADL is not a proper source, since they include justified police shootings and minor things like "hate speech" in their statistics.
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There are essentially 4 categories of argument used to try and defend racist behaviour.

1) I can't be racist because I interact with <insert race or culture here> ( "Some of my best friends are black" )
2) It's not racist if I believe it's true. ( "Let me show you this dank Twitter meme about black on black crime" )
3) It's not racist because I'm just saying what everyone is already thinking ( "Telling it like it is" )
4) Schrodinger's Douchebag ( "It was just a joke, geez." )

See if you can spot how many of them are currently in play in this thread. -.-


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There are essentially 4 categories of argument used to try and defend racist behaviour.

1) I can't be racist because I interact with <insert race or culture here> ( "Some of my best friends are black" )
2) It's not racist if I believe it's true. ( "Let me show you this dank Twitter meme about black on black crime" )
3) It's not racist because I'm just saying what everyone is already thinking ( "Telling it like it is" )
4) Schrodinger's Douchebag ( "It was just a joke, geez." )

See if you can spot how many of them are currently in play in this thread. -.-




"Racism" doesn't exist, its a buzzword. Ingroup preference and outgroup rejection is completely natural, its just up to us to temper it so we don't revert to complete tribalism. There is also nothing wrong in recognizing human biological diversity.

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What snarky blog did you steal that from?
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You can easily point out the people in this thread who go to /pol often.
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You can easily point out the people in this thread who go to /pol often.


Would be nice if they would stay over there.

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RavingDragon wrote:
You can easily point out the people in this thread who go to /pol often.


Would be nice if they would stay over there.



Agreed

Here's your average discussion on /pol

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RavingDragon wrote:
Agreed

Here's your average discussion on /pol


That's...amazingly even worse than I imagined.

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Never have high expectations from the internet.
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Never have high expectations from the internet.


I have very low exceptions of the internet and it still managed to disappoint.
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Racial supremacism, period, is on the rise, and has been for over a decade. The pot was stirred, people continue to propagate it, and we'll continue to reap the rewards of our stupidity and general inability to cease answering racism with racism. Naturally, our political environment has done nothing but worsen it. It's like people think that "winning" at being jackasses will help anything.
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octorockandroll wrote:

It's really fucked up that people are acting like a supposed rise of violent black supremacist groups are a justification for violent white supremacist groups. Even if there were a major spree of black supremacist violent crimes (there isn't) acting like that just makes the same actions from white supremacists okay makes me think of David Lawrence and Paul Spence, not because they hold that attitude, but because it's textbook fubar. If you're okay with racially motivated violence from one group but not another, you're a fucking racist. Simple as that.


White supremacist violence is extremely rare and grossly exaggerated. Especially on the grand scale of things.


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And the equivalent of black face is in the eyes of the beholder, your opinion.


"Blackface is in the eye of the beholder" is a phrase I never thought I'd hear. If you post caricatures drawing on old racist stereotypes from the 1800's in an attempt to make black people look stupid, you are going to get called on your bullshit.

The fuck is your game? Like, think before your post. If what you are posting could easily be propaganda from 1900, some warning bell should go off in your head. Honestly, if there wasn't even the slightest twinge in the back of your mind saying "maybe this is racist and I shouldn't post it" something is seriously off the mark up there.


I'm not sure what your "game" is Sundin. You're making accusations based on perceived intentions of what someone is saying rather than their word of mouth. I'm assuming you're arguing this is good faith but reading into someone's intentions to the level you're doing right is an outright disgusting and morally indigestible behaviour which I believe you should seek to fix. Onto the "cartoon", if the cartoon was historically propaganda would you not argue it has historical worth? Because you seem to have been driven into a berserk frenzy by the mere sight of it.

MrAnimeSK You probably should not of linked the "cartoon" from a pragmatic standpoint due to the nature of the users from this site or tackled linking it from a historical standpoint. So my advice, don't die on this hill.


Preach. You're right.
Surprised this hasn't been shut down.

I really do try to make a decent debate and have a decent discussion but its so dam hard. It's literally impossible to not be offensive.
If you want to actually get a point across and speak truth or at least give your opinion. And god forbid ever trying to be funny.
Iam literally Hitler, just like Trump. I just pretend to like black music so i wont be labelled racist! ......

Anyways... might go listen to the new rap album i just bought..


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I do think white supremacist groups are on the rise but only because of groups like black lives matter and antifa.


Absolutely mate. 100%. Spot on. White anti whites are a massive part of it.





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Hah they have a long way to go to catch up to Islam

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CptSpeirs wrote:

I do think white supremacist groups are on the rise but only because of groups like black lives matter and antifa.


Its more like they are trying hard to label people as white supremacists. Apparently I am a white supremacist because I support Trump and post rare Pepe's around the place. Nowadays white supremacist = conservative or anti-liberal.

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