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Post Reply White supremacist violence on the rise in the U.S. (read OP)
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Alright, let's try this again. Before we start, a couple of things...

1. Stay on topic. We're specifically talking about the United States. Anything that happens anywhere else is irrelevant, so don't bring it up.

2. Don't be terrible. If you're not going to contribute anything meaningful, don't bother. Don't try to change the subject with personal attacks, playing whataboutism with other groups or turn this thread into an endless waterfall of offensive images.

3. If you see someone else doing the above, don't fall for it.

Now that we've that out of the way...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/the-resurgent-threat-of-white-supremacist-violence/550634/

http://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacists-killed-2017-extremist-783638

As I said before, the threat of white supremacy is nothing new in the US. They have consistently ranked as the nation's number one extremist threat for years. But this clearly points to a growing problem that may continue in the coming years if the political climate emboldens them.

This honestly terrifies me. For a long time, I thought my nation had gotten over this, but the last few years have clearly shown we still have some big problems. Hopefully this is just a temporary setback and common sense regains its footing soon. If not, we could be in very serious trouble.
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Your first link has a paywall. Your second link is being raided by the feds:

http://www.businessinsider.com/newsweek-offices-raided-by-manhattan-district-attorney-2018-1

NYPD denies being the ones responsible for the raid:



Can we get some links that work and/or not being raided by the feds.

I've noticed a rise in fake hate crimes where Blacks, Muslims, or Latinos try and pretend to be white or Trump supporters then claim HATE CRIME only to be discovered and the discovery to be ignored by the media who reported the original story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm_term=.d7d9ec3c3c9e
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Rujikin wrote:

Your first link has a paywall. Your second link is being raided by the feds:

http://www.businessinsider.com/newsweek-offices-raided-by-manhattan-district-attorney-2018-1

NYPD denies being the ones responsible for the raid:



Can we get some links that work and/or not being raided by the feds.

I've noticed a rise in fake hate crimes where Blacks, Muslims, or Latinos try and pretend to be white or Trump supporters then claim HATE CRIME only to be discovered and the discovery to be ignored by the media who reported the original story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm_term=.d7d9ec3c3c9e


Here you go https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-report-white-supremacist-murders-more-than-doubled-in-2017
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There has always been white supremacist activities and violence but I think the violence is getting more air time now due to the current political climate. There are several Internet forums encouraging violence which doesn't help things.
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Here is a link to the source. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2017





Edit: It's also VERY important to read "Note: Total deaths include both ideological and non-ideologically motivated killings".
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there was a guy who shared this link in another thread 1-2 months ago about extremism discussion before

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/look-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/

politifact? it's like that website created by a follower of hillary, Verrit https://verrit.com

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/4/16251726/verrit-clinton-facts


This is the report they based their claims on

United States Government Accountability Office
https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf


Scroll down to page 34 of 62 and read through the list.... They started from September 12, 2001. I'm sure you will notice the pattern when you look through the list. A lot of non-white extremist attacks are not on the list within the same time frame

This is why it's important for me to break down the source. The source to me is not just another propaganda news site stating the same thing But the original source (study/data/research etc..) that they are basing their claims on...

when you break down the source things will become clear....after this 98.1% poll.. eh.. i would like to see the source before jumping on the bandwagon



extremism is alive and well in this country but thinking that it's only from one side is just show how gullible some people can be...

remember this guy is a professor of ethics at Berkeley:rolleyes:




some sample screenshots




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Here is a link to the source. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2017





Edit: It's also VERY important to read "Note: Total deaths include both ideological and non-ideologically motivated killings".


I am suspicios toward this source especially when fake statistics are common on the news and media.
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This is the report they based their claims on

United States Government Accountability Office
https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf


Scroll down to page 34 of 62 and read through the list.... They started from September 12, 2001. I'm sure you will notice the pattern when you look through the list. A lot of non-white extremist attacks are not on the list within the same time frame


Could you back that statement up?
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Clearly it's all the Nazi punching that caused the rise in violence, amirite?
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Cathugud wrote:



Here is a link to the source. https://www.adl.org/education/resources/reports/murder-and-extremism-in-the-united-states-in-2017





Edit: It's also VERY important to read "Note: Total deaths include both ideological and non-ideologically motivated killings".


WOW A WHOLE 20 for the entire nation? Chicago has them beat in half a month with 20.5 deaths. I wonder if we should count black on black gang violence in these stats?
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qwueri wrote:

Clearly it's all the Nazi punching that caused the rise in violence, amirite?


Probably, any and every white Trump supporter being instantly labelled as a "Nazi" probably actually would have had at least some part in it (iam not convinced it's actually happening anyway though, the rise in white supremacist violence).
And yes, i would imagine getting punched in the face would cause a reaction. Are you suggesting that if you were punched in the face that you wouldn't want revenge?
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I continue to be impressed that people have found a way to try and blame even white supremacy itself on black people.
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Cathugud wrote:


Edit: It's also VERY important to read "Note: Total deaths include both ideological and non-ideologically motivated killings".


So its more fake statistics from the ADL, very nice.
>cop kills a dangerous criminal
>ADL calls it white terrorism
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White people are useful, don't worry yourself. White supremacists? You're in America, what do you honestly expect? Common sense? People speak about the American dream, being a patriot, most people take everything to the extreme, of course there's going to be white supremacy. Those who started it had children, and those children had their own children, and those children had their own children. You see where I'm getting at, do you see me working?

Bloodlines and racism, there are 7 billion people in the world, and there's a really high chance that 0.2%, yes bellow 1% of it is racist. That's still a hùuuuuuuge amount of people. Is that an accurate number? I can't see why not. You know for a fact there are over 100 racist people in this world, so why wouldn't there be 1,000,000? Why wouldn't there be 10,000,000? You don't know, I don't know, we just focus on isolated incidents to help backup our issues. The worlds a big place remember

Do you really think people are going to change willingly?

But yea, good luck with that America, I'll make sure to keep my stick on the ice for you eh, cheers buddy



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runec wrote:

I continue to be impressed that people have found a way to try and blame even white supremacy itself on black people.


Doesn't racism cause racism, which inspires more racism, though? Like, at some point, people unwittingly set up self-fulfilling prophecies of each other? People cave in to negative expectations all the time.
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