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Posted 1/19/18 , edited 1/20/18
As the title suggested. I believe Taiwan to be a country of high technology advancement. Alright, given that most of the people are old fashioned, the people in the 30s are innovative and loyal. The equipment could be delicate like Asus, but lacking raw power in comparison to say Dell. But the software technology makes up for it in computational power and it might just achieve body swap in terms of innovation. We lack a central network like China and with this intelligence in place we might be able to achieve it. Sure we could join up with the citizen, but I mean the core should be that of companies(counting on you, I am scared of lab settings), the core architecture of China's network could be that of research facilities.

America follows the rules closely. If the package does not allow body swap, then there is no body swap. If the hardware cannot do that level of computation, it cannot, and with no shortcuts. It however, has a vast number of resources at hand and brilliant minds from Russia and other countries. They are the one that fully utilizes the technology and bring out its beastly power. There is no cheap effective means where the cost scale the same as quality. And when it does become cheap, that means the body swap technology have become common. It is a land of opportunity for those that knows what they are doing. The vast resources allow the construction of a super computer to run on raw computational power that would achieve body swap and hopefully for everyone. They don't need a network, but those that knows what needs to be done, gets it done. In other words this 10% should be what you are counting on. It is a balanced output between school(SALK,Stanford), companies(IBM, Intel), and military(UFO). The Manhattan Project

Japan, the h manga and Nintendo that appears out of nowhere, while staying rather conservative. And those Japanese computer brands are the one that achieve high computational level. As my friend once told me, those who made it into the Tokyo University are not only gifted but probably has a special brain structure. They are currently facing economic set back, but if there is a group that excel at brain structures and psychology, it would be them. People of age 40s has a more experienced mind set in comparison to people in the 20s where they just set out to experience the world. Not many Mark Zukerburg arise from this country, but the level of experience makes up for its work. If you've stayed in the industry for over 20 years you'd be very experienced in this field. They could embrace artificial intelligence, company with medical experience and company with hardware and software computation experience and with a touch on science(Detective Galileo) apply for all. The information gathering, analysis, and management. The machinery and experience would make them possible to achieve body swap. A cheat, a shortcut.

China is still developing. And with 6 billion people at hand it is not an easy task. Most people are kind and you know what having 6 billion people writing software would be like. Their technology resembles that from Taiwan, maybe almost the same level, but they have an extra touch in completion. While being able to learn from Taiwan and America, they don't quite become Japan in terms of experience, they build their own experience based on the technology available. My idea is to import more things from America to boost its own standards while learning software computation, not architecture, from Taiwan. The generation in the 20s does not seem to be independent, I myself included. But from the economic point of view it's really hard to get into the game. This however, does not mean China cannot complete body swap. China is known to complete architectural marvels and with a network in place, similar to that of the red guard, they could distribute tasks and check for validity. While dream group of a more advanced level could be hidden. They could definitely use some improvement. That does not mean they can't catch up its computational power in a year. And when they catch up on body swap you'd still be wondering how they did it, but they just did, and for everyone hopefully. Rick and Morty style. They can control weather, and they can put it on a smaller scale, important.

P.S So who is the mysterious group that soaks up my consciousness like a sponge? Firstly they did not destroy my consciousness as both my hypothalamus are still running. The sponge only soaks up 2/3 of the brain and they were back up running the next second because of my hypothalamuses? Second, they appear to be like Rick and Morty with tornado and jellyfish that soaks up the consciousness. They shouldn't be the real Rick and Morty group I think. It has more of a VR touch to it. Lastly, play safe, the next time this happens Fred might go bye bye.

Old age then transfer might not be the best mean, but it seems Fred has no chance of meeting this group until before Fred's death. As Black Jack shows, even if you do everything right you might still not be able to save the person because of old age. If I know them I'd probably do it in the 60s~80s.

Where do you put the consciousness? A container perhaps, a ball. Something that holds consciousness and you can graze and map it over.

DNA is the next available thing for immortality. Hopefully without any side effects. By then Fred might have 612 symptoms in his body. If that one drug would does a full repair to my body, sure, but unlikely.
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Given this is an anime site you can expect Japan dominate the votes on this. In actuality its far more likely that the US would be the first since they are the country that holds the lead in scientific development and the furthest in development of artificial intelligence, followed by Germany and then China. This is the same order in which I would judge their likelihood of developing the body swap technology.
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7Continents wrote:

Given this is an anime site you can expect Japan dominate the votes on this. In actuality its far more likely that the US would be the first since they are the country that holds the lead in scientific development and the furthest in development of artificial intelligence, followed by Germany and then China. This is the same order in which I would judge their likelihood of developing the body swap technology.


Sir, I agree with what you said. But realistically, looking at the electronic companies, some of the major Japanese brands do not lose to any other American brands. Of course that is saying if the American military got some supercomputer hidden running on different OS. I got the idea that Japanese always have some kind of edge on science. But is a bit behind in information management. While American based purely on computational powers. They could be the first to develop artificial intelligence. That is why I refer to Russian as a hack that would be of benefits to the U.S. Germany also has an edge in science. Keep in mind you guys are on the same side now. So in the end maybe it would be based on cost? That there isn't a cheap and effective means of shoving one's consciousness into a ball?
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7Continents wrote:

Given this is an anime site you can expect Japan dominate the votes on this. In actuality its far more likely that the US would be the first since they are the country that holds the lead in scientific development and the furthest in development of artificial intelligence, followed by Germany and then China. This is the same order in which I would judge their likelihood of developing the body swap technology.


Sir, I agree with what you said. But realistically, looking at the electronic companies, some of the major Japanese brands do not lose to any other American brands. Of course that is saying if the American military got some supercomputer hidden running on different OS. I got the idea that Japanese always have some kind of edge on science. But is a bit behind in information management. While American based purely on computational powers. They could be the first to develop artificial intelligence. That is why I refer to Russian as a hack that would be of benefits to the U.S. Germany also has an edge in science. Keep in mind you guys are on the same side now. So in the end maybe it would be based on cost? That there isn't a cheap and effective means of shoving one's consciousness into a ball?


From how I understand it, Japan tends to hold the edge in hardware development while the US holds the edge in software development. The US may use Japanese electronic products, but Japan still uses American digital applications and web services. The most accurate answer would most likely be a joint effort between the US, Japan, Germany and other allied nations as scientific development is more globalized in the modern world then it has been previously, but the core of the research would be done in the US as it is for other things like AI development. This a pretty ridiculous question to begin with though, since to my knowledge there isn't anybody working on body swap technology so why would it matter?
Edit: And of course I was right- everyone ended up voting for Japan. This happens on any anime forum in which you compare Japan to any other country.
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7Continents wrote:


fredreload wrote:


7Continents wrote:

Given this is an anime site you can expect Japan dominate the votes on this. In actuality its far more likely that the US would be the first since they are the country that holds the lead in scientific development and the furthest in development of artificial intelligence, followed by Germany and then China. This is the same order in which I would judge their likelihood of developing the body swap technology.


Sir, I agree with what you said. But realistically, looking at the electronic companies, some of the major Japanese brands do not lose to any other American brands. Of course that is saying if the American military got some supercomputer hidden running on different OS. I got the idea that Japanese always have some kind of edge on science. But is a bit behind in information management. While American based purely on computational powers. They could be the first to develop artificial intelligence. That is why I refer to Russian as a hack that would be of benefits to the U.S. Germany also has an edge in science. Keep in mind you guys are on the same side now. So in the end maybe it would be based on cost? That there isn't a cheap and effective means of shoving one's consciousness into a ball?


From how I understand it, Japan tends to hold the edge in hardware development while the US holds the edge in software development. The US may use Japanese electronic products, but Japan still uses American digital applications and web services. The most accurate answer would most likely be a joint effort between the US, Japan, Germany and other allied nations as scientific development is more globalized in the modern world then it has been previously, but the core of the research would be done in the US as it is for other things like AI development. This a pretty ridiculous question to begin with though, since to my knowledge there isn't anybody working on body swap technology so why would it matter?
Edit: And of course I was right- everyone ended up voting for Japan. This happens on any anime forum in which you compare Japan to any other country.


Well, because I've thought about the likelihood for a body swap application based on transferring the electric field. I just haven't thought about where to put the consciousness. The technology has been there for one to two decades I believe. And the dream application that just begin to take flight generally leave a bad taste afterward(headache) or not enough computations. But I've seen how close some of the dream groups are getting in swapping the consciousness, and I think they just need a little bit of push.
Ya, the dream groups that existed 20 years ago might not be human. And a joint research between U.S, Japan, and China does not sound too bad. I think China is the closest as of now. Ya, I've been trying to put the groups together from behind the scene, but well, each country has got their edge I suppose.
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China, maybe? At least they succesfully managed to clone a monkey. Something i read in news paper today.
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China, maybe? At least they succesfully managed to clone a monkey. Something i read in news paper today.


Ionno, I thought I'd at least heard something about it by now, but not even a dream machine. People are computing neurons based on CPU power when they could use graphics card GPU to compute the neurons. No offense, but I think we are getting close. And never have I heard the use of electromagnetic radiation in the microwave range to stimulate a neurons in the brain. It's like these technologies are kept hidden, but in reality are everywhere. Then the clouding question about an electric field presented in the neurons.
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Yoshithehero wrote:

China, maybe? At least they succesfully managed to clone a monkey. Something i read in news paper today.


Ionno, I thought I'd at least heard something about it by now, but not even a dream machine. People are computing neurons based on CPU power when they could use graphics card GPU to compute the neurons. No offense, but I think we are getting close. And never have I heard the use of electromagnetic radiation in the microwave range to stimulate a neurons in the brain. It's like these technologies are kept hidden, but in reality are everywhere. Then the clouding question about an electric field presented in the neurons.


It won't be long before cloning a human becomes possible. Creepy thought.
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fredreload wrote:


Yoshithehero wrote:

China, maybe? At least they succesfully managed to clone a monkey. Something i read in news paper today.


Ionno, I thought I'd at least heard something about it by now, but not even a dream machine. People are computing neurons based on CPU power when they could use graphics card GPU to compute the neurons. No offense, but I think we are getting close. And never have I heard the use of electromagnetic radiation in the microwave range to stimulate a neurons in the brain. It's like these technologies are kept hidden, but in reality are everywhere. Then the clouding question about an electric field presented in the neurons.


It won't be long before cloning a human becomes possible. Creepy thought.


Even if you can clone a human, you cannot forge a long term memory. The clone comes with zero memory. Hence the short term, long term memory debate. And you cannot keep an empty vessel, by far the most simple method for mind transfer seems the most tedious to reach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3agaVwt0tb8

P.S It seems this method can be perfected
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