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So I'm up to date and..

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Episode 9


A charmingly simple episode this week.

Here we're introduced to Emiru, an elegant young girl with a penchant for safety. It drives those around her up a wall sometimes, but she only does it to look out for others. While she and Hana get lost on a hiking outing, she becomes discouraged thinking that she's just a nuisance, but Hana reassures her that her dedication to look after others makes her more akin to a hero, and I'm inclined to agree.

I really like Emiru. Her and Ranze are two side characters that I find myself enjoying almost as much as the main cast (if not more). I hope we see more of them.

Superb fashion as well. Love the style.
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Episode 10


Our trio act as waitresses for a local food festival for an entry into Hana's mom's magazine column mentioned earlier. As they all transform into appropriate attire, Saaya and Homare are given lovely waitress outfits, while Hana is given... I'm actually not sure what this getup is called. Some sort of Happi? (Forgive me, as I almost literally know nothing about Japanese clothing). Anyway, Hana's getup, coupled with her apparent "lack" of abilities compared to Homare and Saaya is massively discouraging for her. So much so that she can't even transform! When Papple appears to sow mischief, our trio is reduced to a duo, and Hana herself is attacked by Papple's oshimaida. However, Hugtan, drawing on her own powers, generates a massive outburst of energy that saves Hana and purifies the oshimaida, but afterward, Hugtan suddenly falls asleep and is unable to be woken up!

Interesting. I fully expected Hana to recover this episode since, until now, only she has demonstrated the ability to purify oshimaidas. To see Hugtan do it as well was quite surprising. Even more surprising was to see Hugtan sort of "pass out" like that. Quite an unusual cliffhanger for being so early in the series.

Overall, an intriguing episode. Defied my expectations in some ways, and has me interested in seeing this turn of events resolve.
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Episode 11


Wowzers. Some really interesting events presented in this episode.

Summary

So, this episode begins where the previous left off - Hana feeling discouraged and unable transform, and Hugtan passed out from lack of Asu power. Hana does some soul searching, and after some encouragement from her mother, her friends, and a dash of self cheering, she snaps out of it ~ determined that the didn't want to be a Precure who runs away. The three of them together, with their combined heartbeats (and symbolically, combined purpose) are able to wake Hugtan. However, back at Criasu, Papple turns Charaleet himself into an oshimaida in order to defeat the Precure. While defending the town against it, Hana's strong desire to be the type of Precure she wants to be materializes as a new Mirai crystal. The crystal takes the form of a brilliantly shining sword - the Sword of Precure. Hana takes this sword and prepares to strike down the oshimaida, but at the last second, she sees Charaleet within, quivering with insecurities nearly identical to her own. She barely manages to stay her strike, and rather than cutting the oshimaida down, she relinquishes the sword and hugs it with her own two hands. Hana decides that a sword isn't indicative of the type of Precure she wants to be, and so the crystal instead materializes as a triplet of wands, which our heroines use to purify Charaleet. And then, to top off the episode, Hugtan manages to say her first words - calling Hana her Mama.

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You know I'd never lie to you. I wouldn't call myself the biggest fan of this particular season, but man, this scene was powerful.

The way this episode built itself up and played with expectations was truly masterful. The episode kept bringing up this idea of "the kind of Precure [Hana] wants to be", and then right here at the climax, we see her in full glory manifesting this absolutely brilliant sword. We see her grasp it and even attack, then are immediately punched in the gut by that scene of the languished Charaleet. At the exact same time as Hana, we the viewer are immediately hit with apprehensions. "No! Something's wrong! This isn't right!" We also get that stunning scene of Hana staying her strike - carried forward by the weight and inertia of her attack.

And then to see her not strike the oshimaida down, but instead embrace it and utter those words - "It's not a sword I need" "That's not the type of Precure I want to be".

Man, even though I've been low-key throwing shade here and there at various parts of this season, credit where credit is due, that might have been one of the most powerful moments of the entire franchise.

I guess it's like I said previously, for me personally this show may be hit or miss, but when it hits, it truly does hit it out of the park.
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I like Hugtto so far.
But I feel like too much is happening so fast that the staff might get lost in the ideas?
I've heard that in the past, staff have even forgotten story arcs.
Maybe I'm just worrying too much.
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Dia-Ribbon wrote:

I like Hugtto so far.
But I feel like too much is happening so fast that the staff might get lost in the ideas?
I've heard that in the past, staff have even forgotten story arcs.
Maybe I'm just worrying too much.


I think that's a legitimate concern. Certain aspects of the ideas they're presenting feel slightly disjointed already to me personally.

I've heard of something like forgotten story arcs for a few seasons, but I wonder if they were forgotten or intentionally left out. Though, I guess that's a pedantic difference.

As for Hugtto, throwing out a lot of ideas will get some to stick, but will it be enough to overshadow the ones that don't? I suppose only time will tell.
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Episode 12


Overall, this was a pretty relaxed episode compared with the previous, but still with its share of shocking developments. It focused more or less on our trio holding a pajama party that ends up being interrupted by Papple. Standard stuff. What's not standard is learning that Hugtan and Harry are actually from the future (looks like they're starting to work in the temporal shenanigans). Even more shocking was seeing Lulu go into super-creeper mode in order to sneak into Hana's house and pretend to be a child of her mother's friend who's staying over.

I forgot to mention this last episode, but they're really driving home the Fresh vibes recently as well. The melody sword is surprisingly similar to the wands from Fresh (Peach Rod, Berry Sword and Pine Flute). Furthermore... well... I guess discussing anymore might involve Fresh spoilers, but needless to say, there are other aspects of what they're doing here that are quite reminiscent.

Also, what's with Harry stealing Ichika's catchphrase from Kirakira while making popcorn?! A clever reference, but just... don't. It only makes miss Ichika and the rest even more
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Episode 13


Lulu makes her debut as a transfer student at Hana's school. It's quickly established that she's brilliant at everything from studies to sports, but her demeanor leaves a little to be desired. Hana decides to throw her a surprise welcome party, but Lulu's standoffish and purely logical nature tears down the whole thing as unnecessary and inconvenient. Afterwards, most of the class (including Hana to a minor extent) decides to tone down their interaction with her. Lulu, thinking her mission of getting close to Hana has failed, resorts to the old Oshimaida tactics, but is surprised to see Hana so worried about her as she's fighting. At this point, she seems to stop time in order to have a conversation with Hana and understand how she feels. While talking, Hana resolves to treat Lulu like family, and insists that their relationship will work out in the end. When Lulu asks "On what basis?", Hana simply responds with "Because I like you", causing a pang of emotion within Lulu's heart. Afterward, Yell purifies the oshimaida, and Lulu decides to continue her study of Hana in order to learn about the source of her power, but is that really the only reason now........?

Gotta say, this was a pretty cute and emotional episode. Maybe not in a "bawl your eyes out" sort of way, but in more of a subtle sense. Lulu's great. Really love what they're doing with her so far, but how they handle her going forward will be paramount. Emotionless Girls are characters that are very easy to mess up, and I don't quite have confidence in this show to do the idea justice, but we shall see. This episode itself seemed to get it, so let's hope they can keep it up.
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Episode 14


Fairly standard episode this week. Our trio, plus Lulu, work as attendants at a daycare. Lulu appears to open up a tad while caring for the children, but still ends up summoning an oshimaida to collect negative energy. Even though that's her intention, she still finds herself wanting to protect the children - revealing something of a soft spot. Eventually Yell and the others manage to purify the oshimaida, and all's well that ends well.

Not much to say this week. Like I mentioned, it was a fairly standard episode. That being said, I remarked last week that

Emotionless Girls are characters that are very easy to mess up, and I don't quite have confidence in this show to do the idea justice, but we shall see.

Seems like I was correct in my worry. Any trace of the beautiful subtlety we received in the previous episode is already completely gone. Lulu is opening up far too quickly, and so comes across less as an emotionless girl and more like a normal character that is having their emotions repressed for the sake of plot. Perhaps that is the intention, but even if it is, such a character is far less interesting to me personally. So either way, I'm kind of disappointed with how they're handling Lulu. And after they did so well last week, too. Plus, now that they've already started the thawing process so early and so rapidly, it's practically irreversible. Unless they go with a contrived and inexplicable face-heel turn that makes her evil again. Unfortunately, there's been at least one other season to do something so nonsensical, so I can't rule it out. So whatever they decide to do from here just won't be very interesting to me personally. They've put themselves in checkmate.

Such a shame.

Well, Emiru and Ranze still interest me, and it looks like we'll catch more of Emiru next week, so at least there's something for me to look forward to there.

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A Brief Note


Before I get into it this week, I'd just like to stress (on the off chance that people actually read these) that anyone and everyone is welcome to post anything Precure related that they like in this thread. This is a public discussion thread, after all, so I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. Even if it's just a simple "I really liked this week's episode". No need for anything fancy.

I plan to be back here every week to discuss new episodes for consistency's sake, and Hugtto is going to be airing for an entire year. It might get kind of lonely if it's just me around for all that time. In particular, I'd love to hear from people with different opinions than my own. I love examining things from other people's point of view.

Episode 15


Summary

This week we get another fairly standard episode. Lulu "volunteers" to get some eggs that are on sale at the store since everyone else is busy. While on the way there she runs into Emiru who is masquerading around as a makeshift Precure - Cure... Emiru. She ends up tagging along with Lulu in order to protect her on her errand. After getting the eggs, Emiru invites Lulu back to her house where more of her backstory is revealed. Turns out she's the daughter of a refined lineage. While in her room, Emiru introduces Lulu to the concept of music through a guitar, but her brother looks down on her for playing this rather than a more ladylike instrument. Lulu sticks up for her against her brother - even getting angry on Emiru's behalf. Afterward, an Oshimaida attacks, and Emiru rushes to help out in any way she can, leaving something of an impression on Lulu. But not enough to get her to admit it out loud, anyway!

Thoughts

So there are a few different things to talk about in this episode. Let me start by getting the nitpicks out of the way. Parts of the structure felt... kind of weird. Like, I still don't really get why Emiru was following Lulu specifically around. It was initially to protect her from the cat, then just turned into protecting her from... walking, I guess? I also don't quite get why Emiru invited her back to her house. Her interest in Lulu just came out of nowhere. Additionally, Lulu is still bouncing back and forth between emotionless and repressed, which is still kind of jarring to me. I guess that might be the point, but it doesn't feel right.

After all that, you might think I didn't like this episode, but quite the contrary - I thought it was utterly hilarious




This episode was actually a ton of fun. Emiru's interaction with Lulu's cold exterior were pure gold! Especially at the end there with their little back and forth. I don't think I've laughed so heartily in a while!

And another thing I want to mention is the technical and directorial prowess displayed in this episode. The facial expressions and animations of the characters were phenomenal this week. As were the sound effects (when you really take notice of them). It all came together and really enhanced the comedy. Not to mention the delivery of the VAs! Lulu and Emiru's chemistry is just perfect.

Even though the "a sword isn't what I need" scene is probably my favorite scene from this show so far (and maybe the whole franchise), this episode was definitely my favorite episode! It was just good fun!
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Hey there! I'm just starting Hugtto this week after finding a chunk of time to devote to watching it and I'm loving it so far!!
I love magical girls, and I really enjoyed Heart Catch, but since Precure comes out yearly without too much difference in the formula, it can be kind of difficult for me to keep up.

Hugtto's caught my eye since sakuga blogs have featured it pretty frequently since it started airing and I'm surprised by how lively the animation is. I'm hoping this is a season I can watch til the end!
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I'm on episode 7, and the preview for episode 8 is looks amazing
It looks like Yuri Plisetsky has come to Japan to take Victor Homare back to Russia lol
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Hey there! I'm just starting Hugtto this week after finding a chunk of time to devote to watching it and I'm loving it so far!!
I love magical girls, and I really enjoyed Heart Catch, but since Precure comes out yearly without too much difference in the formula, it can be kind of difficult for me to keep up.

Hugtto's caught my eye since sakuga blogs have featured it pretty frequently since it started airing and I'm surprised by how lively the animation is. I'm hoping this is a season I can watch til the end!


Hey and welcome to the thread!

I don't blame you for not keeping up. Just like you said, the formula doesn't really change that much. I myself follow it partially for the challenge, and partially just to stay in the loop. This season does seem to be one that has a significantly different "feel" to it, but recently I think the seasons have been getting progressively unique.

The animation is certainly a key selling point this season. Some of these fight scenes are pretty amazing ~ even by the franchise's standards (which is saying something). Much like you, I hope this season manages to stay interesting. Of course, since I'm already somewhat invested, it just doesn't seem... right to afford myself the luxury of dropping it.

Not that I feel a strong urge to anymore. These last few episodes have been surprisingly engaging.

Speaking of which....

Episode 16


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Episode 17


Continuing from last week's episode, Papple takes Lulu back to Criasu where she deletes the data corresponding to her fond memories of the Precure (while still leaving the combat data). Lulu then takes off on a singular mission to destroy the Precure. However, as she fights with them, it becomes clear that she can't bring herself to destroy them. Her memories begin to return, and cause great emotional and physical pain due to all of the conflicting feelings and data. There's various back and forth between the Precure and Lulu as she struggles to get a hold of her emotions, but eventually, she declares that her old program has been "overwritten", and ends up solidly on the Precure's side - even lashing out at Papple and warning her to leave. At the end, Lulu seems to have finally started to manifest a true "heart" and seems to have reconciled with the the Precure. On one last note, it also happens that Emiru discovered the secret that Hana and the others are actually Precure during the fight.

Forgive me if this synopsis is all over the place, but to be honest, I feel like the episode itself was all over the place..

I'm sorry, is it just me, or was this episode lame? I mean, really lame? The writing, the dialogue, the voice acting, the plot points - it was all so melodramatic, hammy, and corny. As I mentioned last week, we don't really get any explanation of how a mechanical being can suddenly manifest a heart. Nor do they adequately explain how Lulu managed to maintain her memories after they were deleted. Then there's just little stuff like Papple sitting back and doing absolutely nothing that whole fight while Lulu is very clearly struggling and on the verge of turning. The action itself was pretty good, but even there, some of the scenes used looping combat animation that, again, was just... lame.

I...don't really know what happened. I felt like the show was really picking up recently, but it seems like they just dropped the ball at this point. Then again, maybe it's just me. Am I the only one who feels this way?

I've got to say, off all of the instances of villains switching sides, this was probably one of the weakest. Don't get me wrong, the buildup was pretty good - seeing Lulu open up at Hana's house and the daycare, etc. (even if it doesn't really make since since she's a machine), but how they pulled off the actual turn? I'd be lying if I said I personally enjoyed it.

Even so, the show itself is still pretty good. The things I dislike don't necessarily negate all the good the show has done, especially in the past few weeks. A little inconsistent, but still an all-right show overall.
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Hello Cait_Sidhe,

Just to let you know, you're not the only one who found this episode hammy. I don't think it was bad, or at least I've seen worse Precure episodes, but the main story lacked subtlety. My problem, and I suspect part of yours, with the entire "Ruru turns" arc is that I've seen Toei do an (apparently) emotionless girl finds her humanity arc in Precure before but with greater sensitivity and emotional weight. It does not help that the writers seem to want to remind us of that character arc. Ruru's spontaneous urges to protect the helpless and her interactions with a younger girl ineluctably brings to my mind a character from an earlier Precure series. It also doesn't help that both the series and the character are personal favourites. Now R.U.R 9500 is not a mere retread, and they've done enough to make me care about her as an individual. Maybe that's all they intended for this arc. Perhaps her main development is yet to come. It seems Emiru will have a part in that. We shall see. It's not wise to judge before we know the full story.

Some other things I took from this episode -

A strong hint that Harry was once closely associated with Criasu Corp.

A growing feeling that Papple is going to be more important than she seems at first sight, and possibly less evil.

Overall the series is decent enough. It's entertaining and I like the characters which is all I ask from Precure. It is paying attention to the supporting cast which generally is a good sign. There's a distinct chance that this may end up a good series. I think Precure is too constrained by its template ever to go beyond that into the realms of excellence or greatness. It ain't Doremi and never will be.
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