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You know how, dating back to Sailor Moon, a lot of magical girls are usually seen in color-coded teams, e.g. Pretty Cure, Tokyo Mew Mew, Magical DoReMi, etc.? And you know how we have examples of mecha that were powered up by magic, e.g. Brave Raideen, Aura Battler Dunbine, Vision of Escaflowne, etc.?

Why don't we see that many magical girl teams use magic-powered combining mecha similar to Super Sentai, which inspired that magical girl team trend in the first place?
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Commander_PonyShep wrote:

You know how, dating back to Sailor Moon, a lot of magical girls are usually seen in color-coded teams, e.g. Pretty Cure, Tokyo Mew Mew, Magical DoReMi, etc.? And you know how we have examples of mecha that were powered up by magic, e.g. Brave Raideen, Aura Battler Dunbine, Vision of Escaflowne, etc.?

Why don't we see that many magical girl teams use magic-powered combining mecha similar to Super Sentai, which inspired that magical girl team trend in the first place?


Hmm, true, can't think of too many offhand, but don't forget Magic Knight Rayearth, one of the earlier magical combining color coded mecha teams..
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Because that would be dumb...
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girls don't think robots are super cool?
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Because not everybody thinks everything is better with mecha.

I'm rather glad about that.
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Because mechas are ugly.
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Different target audience. I don't mean for any of the below to say what's "correct," just how things are traditionally.

Centuries of "robots and guns are for boys" is steeped in cultures across the world.

Centuries of "violent shows are for boys" is steeped in cultures across the world.

The underlying theme of most magical girl shows is empowerment of the individual. The Cinderella story: Even a shy person with average appearance is capable of becoming a beautiful hero.

Magic as a medium is more rooted in happily-ever-after fairy tales. Giant robots have become synonymous with war, violence, explosive death.

Battling in a cute outfit is more in line with cultural norms. Battling in a giant robot removes the individual from the directness of the confrontation, nobody can see the pilot but the audience. The pilot's not putting themselves out in front of a crowd, they're hiding behind a cool, powerful machine to better kill people with.

Friendship is also a real-life longing, not just teamwork and heroism. Color coding a cast helps the audience identify characters and keep their powers thematic.

Combining robots tends to detract from a group of friends with different personalities working together, instead showing everyone merge into one heart and mind. The battle then becomes one-on-one: 1 Giant Monster vs. 1 Giant Robot. Some shows do well to emphasize individuals within the robot but at the end of the day, people are rooting for the named giant robot.
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I am seeing a consistent theme in your recent threads.

In this case you are asking why there aren't many shows with all of these aspects?

1. Magic
2. Mecha
3. Combining Mecha
4. All-female pilot teams.

First of all, combining mecha is a small subset of the mecha genre.

Second, magically powered mecha is another small subset of the mecha genre - most mecha series are science fiction rather than fantasy (your Super Sentai example is also predominantly science fiction).

Third, mecha manga is normally published as shonen series, so it would be expected to include at least one male character.


Is there a significant market calling for such a niche genre? I doubt it.
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Although super sentai did seem to inspire the "magical girl team trend" you mentioned, I think it very rapidly and very decidedly shifted into its own specific thing with its own tropes, expectations, and genre trappings.

As someone who is somewhat into magical girl anime, and not into mecha or sentai at all (aside from some specific shows and others that I watch for research purposes) the concept of magical girls piloting mecha is itself sort of... unusual. At that point, I think I'd be kind of hard pressed to call it magical girl and not mecha. It seems like an unusual combination.

But these magical girl teams have developed their own sort of of "combining concept" - just not in the form of mecha. It often takes the form of a massive "group attack" that combines all the powers of the girls, or sometimes even a "group transformation", where all the girls simultaneously switch into a new, more potent form (usually this form also has special group attacks). And I have even seen instances where this new form is like a large "projection" of the literal combination of the powers of the girls (as if they literally combined into a new form). It may not be combining mecha, but going along with what I mentioned earlier, I think you could see it as fulfilling a similar function, but within the unique tropes and genre trappings of magical girls.
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You truly love mechs, don't you?


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maybe it's because, typically, magic girl shows are geared toward girls, so it's all about the pretty colors, well drawn males and animals are to appear somewhere without question. there are a few magic girls who use mech and/or other items outside of magic (minus swords of course), but it seems some girls aren't into mech, or perhaps they are trying to keep the genre separate. or maybe it's because they are strong enough already they don't need mech. however that defeats the punch in the newest when Little Witch Academia came about and there was a mech magic girl. so, new times, new roll outs. until then enjoy the dangers these girls get into and will they be saved in time, someone to save them or will they rescue themselves.
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Because most magical girl shows, as people on this thread have already said, are usually aimed towards young girls, and they generally don't like mechs.
I actually think that's a cool idea, but if an anime ever did decide to do, I can't really end up seeing it becoming a sub-genre or something that happens too often in anime.
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Because this is what happens when you mix Mecha and Magical Girls
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MakotoKamui wrote:
Hmm, true, can't think of too many offhand, but don't forget Magic Knight Rayearth, one of the earlier magical combining color coded mecha teams.


This is the correct answer, IMO. Watch (or read) Rayearth if you have not already done so.
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:


MakotoKamui wrote:
Hmm, true, can't think of too many offhand, but don't forget Magic Knight Rayearth, one of the earlier magical combining color coded mecha teams.


This is the correct answer, IMO. Watch (or read) Rayearth if you have not already done so.


I'll admit, I am a bit biased - I was dating a girl who started me reading (and then watching) Rayearth, and she was a spot on match for Hikaru - so I've got a fondness for the series because of that, and cosplay. But still, it's also a good series, with a number of cool looking mecha, combining transformations, magic, teams, basically everything the thread is looking for. Anyone who likes stuff by CLAMP would do well to check it out, at the very least.
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