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Posted 3/20/18 , edited 3/21/18
OK so over the course of this seres there's been a lot of little hints and clues about the characters and future of the girls from the series.

The author even went the way and made little pictures which showed each girl with specific flowers beside them.
You can click this link to get to the page about the flowers.

Even the plantations have names which sound a lot like plants as well. Here's the link for that if you're interested.

But one of these girls really got my interest through the symbolism in these flower images.

Ikuno 196. A girl with glasses, not much to say and overall a shy attitude.



Over the series we get a lot of little but noticable hints to Ikuno's actual sexuality.

Picture this scene from Episode 7: Shooting Star Moratorium where Ikuno and Ichigo are chatting at the beach.

At the end of the conversation Ikuno gestures her book towards Ichigo. Nothing special there. But look closer.


The flowers on her book are white lillies. Which in flower language represent lesbian love, purity, and chastity.

If that isnt enough she got these flowers around her in the ending sequence as well.


Here you can watch the ending sequence where you get to see the girls from Squad 13 with the flowers.



But flowers aside. She gave us some reaaly good hints over all the episodes released so far. (10 by the point of this post)

You might have noticed how Ikuno always ssems to blush when near Ichigo. Or how shes not attracted at all to her partner Mitsuru.

This scene from Episode 8: Boys x Girls where the girls and the boys split up into two groups and Ikuno, Miku and Ichigo stand in the hallway when this happens:






So yeah i think you get the idea. In my opinion Ikuno is actually attracted to women. I could give you countless examples here but the post would get too big. I would like to know your opinion on this topic and if you maybe found more? :)


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LOL....That is so not true! I really think she and Hiro are true brother and sister, like Luke sky walker and Princess Leia in that whatchamacallit movie with lighted swords! Star misunderstanding something....
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Bankshot wrote:

LOL....That is so not true! I really think she and Hiro are true brother and sister, like Luke sky walker and Princess Leia in that whatchamacallit movie with lighted swords! Star misunderstanding something....


I beg to differ! Everything points towards that Ikuno may be lesbian. DITF has been using flowers and other small things to represent characters or underlying message within the show. There's no doubt in my mind that Speed is right on the money. The evidence is unarguable.
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I think Ikuno is maybe a little cold, or "Fridged" is the word. Then again, I might be wrong and she is Lesbian along with her partner Mitsuru. I've noticed that they both don't interact like a "Normal" Couple!
For Ikuno you might be right, but as for Ichigo I don't think she is at all. She has feelings for Hiro, So I guess we will see!

(It was very late when I wrote the above first statement, and I thought you were focusing on Ichigo. Ikuno I can understand)
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Bankshot wrote:

LOL....That is so not true! I really think she and Hiro are true brother and sister, like Luke sky walker and Princess Leia in that whatchamacallit movie with lighted swords! Star misunderstanding something....


LOL ..wat? I mean im a huge star wars fan but... wat?
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Bankshot wrote:

I think Ikuno is maybe a little cold, or "Fridged" is the word. Then again, I might be wrong and she is Lesbian along with her partner. I've noticed that they both don't interact like a "Normal" Couple!
For Ikuno you might be right, but as for Ichigo I don't think she is at all. She has feelings for Hiro, So I guess we will see!


nah i dont mean that ichigo is lesban at all .. just ikuno^^
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nah i dont mean that ichigo is lesban at all .. just ikuno^^

I'm awake now, it was very late when I wrote that. I thought you were focusing on Ichigo, not Ikuno....So I'll recant. You might be right!

Also, I'm a big Star Wars fan also, I was just being stupid (my excuse is the same, it was late.)
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nah i dont mean that ichigo is lesban at all .. just ikuno^^

I'm awake now, it was very late when I wrote that. I thought you were focusing on Ichigo, not Ikuno....So I'll recant. You might be right!

Also, I'm a big Star Wars fan also, I was just being stupid (my excuse is the same, it was late.)


HAHA its ok it was 5 am here when i wrote this forum post so i was also pretty tired
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Yooo hey glad to see everyone here !

Hallo Komodo! Thank you for putting so much care into this and working hard! This makes everything piece together,,, and there is SOO much more symbolism with plans that maybe we all should re-watch it again up till noew at Ep10.

I shall be doing this and digging deeper into this, Your very Accomplished Komodo!
And is that MR BANKS?! where have you been at recently lol jk but it is good to see you here when you have some time.
I will study up on Darling while continuing my studies on other things too... (Anime is also extremely important research That is my reason anyway)



lol and Gendo from Neon Genesis Evangelion i swear i thought of you Komodo when i seen him and his fantastic eyeglasses glare! im still working on my own

I do recommend you watch this series also if you have not... i love it too :O

Edit: Also Gendo.... I want them damn glasses! i would take them so fast brahhhhh ! ]
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I think the biggest evidence that supports Speed's hypothesis is the episode/character development so far. It's been 10 episodes and every single parasite has been shown interacting with their opposite gender in some way or another.

Hiro-ZeroTwo(duh)
Goro-Ichigo
Miku-Zorome
Futoshi-Kokoru

The one interaction we havent seen between to partners is Ikuno-Mitsuru. I take it back we do see interactions but they stand out compared to the other pairs. In fact the Ikuno-Mitsuru interactions are indicative of actual contempt. They don't have the fake contempt behavior of Miku and Zorome but are rather actually very distant with each other. They share very few words and the words they do are very dry and lifeless. Bruh Mitsuru has a more meaningful interaction with Kokoru then with his own partner. Ikuno just as well. I think this is very indicative.

The series wants you to see the pairs described above as being the same package. Their interactions are almost always bundled on the screen, you rarely see 1 part of the pair without seeing the other. But for Ikuno-Mitsuru there's a distinction. They're separate. The anime does not want you to pair them together and upholds that by keeping their relationship distant. You rarely see them interact with each other. You rarely even see them in the same vicinity unless they're throwing jabs at each other.

Speed's theory is very very plausible. The only thing that might shake it is if in the next episodes we get more development on Ikuno-Mitsuru. The hate could be justified but deep down something blossoms that brings them together, but given the direction the show has gone so far in distancing them who knows what will happen.
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buyingGF wrote:

I think the biggest evidence that supports Speed's hypothesis is the episode/character development so far. It's been 10 episodes and every single parasite has been shown interacting with their opposite gender in some way or another.

Hiro-ZeroTwo(duh)
Goro-Ichigo
Miku-Zorome
Futoshi-Kokoru

The one interaction we havent seen between to partners is Ikuno-Mitsuru. I take it back we do see interactions but they stand out compared to the other pairs. In fact the Ikuno-Mitsuru interactions are indicative of actual contempt. They don't have the fake contempt behavior of Miku and Zorome but are rather actually very distant with each other. They share very few words and the words they do are very dry and lifeless. Bruh Mitsuru has a more meaningful interaction with Kokoru then with his own partner. Ikuno just as well. I think this is very indicative.

The series wants you to see the pairs described above as being the same package. Their interactions are almost always bundled on the screen, you rarely see 1 part of the pair without seeing the other. But for Ikuno-Mitsuru there's a distinction. They're separate. The anime does not want you to pair them together and upholds that by keeping their relationship distant. You rarely see them interact with each other. You rarely even see them in the same vicinity unless they're throwing jabs at each other.

Speed's theory is very very plausible. The only thing that might shake it is if in the next episodes we get more development on Ikuno-Mitsuru. The hate could be justified but deep down something blossoms that brings them together, but given the direction the show has gone so far in distancing them who knows what will happen.


Yeah im completely on your side with this one.. IF Ikuno and Mitsuru are shown to get closer to each other and such then so be it. If they do it well then its all good. But the hints are strong up until now. So we'll see^^
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18

Bankshot wrote:

nah i dont mean that ichigo is lesban at all .. just ikuno^^

I'm awake now, it was very late when I wrote that. I thought you were focusing on Ichigo, not Ikuno....So I'll recant. You might be right!

Also, I'm a big Star Wars fan also, I was just being stupid (my excuse is the same, it was late.)


Oops sorry for coming at you like that didn't realize you were that tired hehe. Yeah, Ichigo is definitely NOT lesbian. Ikuno on the other hand...

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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18


Good quote find my man. I think that really seals the deal on your theory. Any line like that Zero-Two says, especially because she's the most aware of everything around her, has very significant meaning.

Although, your two links and comments are lacking one particular moment of which the flowers are presented in the series. So I'll go check them out myself right now.
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Good quote find my man. I think that really seals the deal on your theory. Any line like that Zero-Two says, especially because she's the most aware of everything around her, has very significant meaning.

Although, your two links and comments are lacking one particular moment of which the flowers are presented in the series. So I'll go check them out myself right now.


yeah as i said i was leaving stuff out on purpose because its a discussion after all. If i'd go and list every little hint then there'd be nothing for you to find anymore. :)

But feel free to write down what you found!
Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
Okay, so first of all, I'm not a florist. I can't distinct any plain flower and distinguish it based on how many petals it has or how sharp or curved its edges are. To me, all of these flowers look the same. With the exception that Ikuno's flower has sharp edges and Ichigo's flower has a unique center.





So assuming that these flowers were identified accurately, I would like to analyze Kokoro based on some of my findings.

So based on the first link about the flowers, Kokoro is identified by white poppies. White poppies are commonly used at funeral or memorials for remembrance and can also mean rejoice or celebration.

Remembrance: The action of remembering something.
We know that Kokoro is knowledgeable in "the language of flowers." And so she is aware of the flower's connection between the parasites and their FRANXX. This leads to Kokoro begging Nana to take care of the greenhouse so she has a reason to come back and remind herself that flowers take a significant role in their society.




Rejoice: to feel or show great joy or delight.
We know that Kokoro is not too shy about sharing her feelings in a subtle way. In the first episode where Hiro couldn't pilot a FRANXX, thus meaning him useless to humanity, Kokoro verbally and emotionally shows that she feels bad for Hiro. And when Hiro can now pilot a FRANXX with Zero-Two, again, Kokoro verbally and emotionally shows that she is happy for Hiro that he gets to stay on the plantation and pilot a FRANXX.

Although Kokoro doesn't show her feelings much through words, we can consistently understand how she feels based on her facial expressions and body language.



Celebration: The action of marking one's pleasure at an important event or occasion by engaging in enjoyable activity.
After a couple of big and cool fights for six episodes, squad 13 takes a beach episode to cool off the intensity of the battles. She happily plays beach ball with Miku while the dudes eye them down because... they're dudes lol. And it's a beach episode so good for us



But doing my own research about white poppies as well, it's also a symbol of pacifism.

Pacifism: The belief that any violence, including war, is unjustifiable under any circumstances, and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means.
In the episode of Boys x Girls, Kokoro was the only girl that didn't agree with diving the house between genders. I mean... just look at their priceless facial expressions lmao



And finally, two direct quotes from when Kokoro enters the greenhouse to water the plants and meets Mitsuru.




Out of all the flowers in the greenhouse, she specifically picks these two flowers to tell Mitsuru about. Coincidence? pfft. maybe. But those two words to describe those two flowers, "delicate beauty" and "alluring," perfectly describes Kokoro.

Delicate: Very fine in texture or structure; of intricate workmanship or quality. Can be easily broken or damaged; fragile.
Kokoro is no doubt the hottest character in the show. Her hair would feel so soft (texture) and her hourglass curves are on point (structure). She is also very sensitive about her feelings because she is very introverted. The only true way of knowing how she feels is through her facial and body expressions.


Alluring: Powerfully and mysteriously attractive or fascinating; seductive.
Again, she's HOT AF just based on appearances. Even with the lack of lack of personality or screen time shown to us so far, she still has this powerful and mysterious seductive feel. Like you would do anything for her if she just asked, just because she's too hot to ignore.



Anyways, that's enough for me. I had to rush this forum post because I have to get ready and leave for work in 10 minutes. But tell me your thoughts. To me, it seems like the show is surrounding Kokoro with flowers and facial + body expressions to complement with her lack of narrative.
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