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Post Reply I've made a petition because of the "licencing problem" of crunchyroll
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
https://www.change.org/p/crunchyroll-add-a-change-region-of-server-option-to-crunchyroll
I've made this petition knowing the problem crunchyroll (and the other simulcast services) have and i've suggested an alternative to allow people to watch their anime legally un crunchyroll even out of region without using a VPN which is against the crunchyroll rules (i don't know who made this rule but it's not a good thing)
the alternative i've suggested would be an option of the website, this option would add button, depending on the country chosed by this button, Crunchyroll would use ONLY the server from this country and wouldn't use the local server, so stream speed could be slower, but since the server streaming the anime would be in the legal zone of the licence of this anime, crunchyroll could legally stream this anime and the viewer would just have a slower speed but would be able to see the anime he wanted to see
if there's enough votes, i think that crunchyroll admins could end by noticing this suggestion
In the US people don't have this problem, but in France it's a huge problem, because editors tend to monopolise the anime and don't allow anyone else to get it, so it means that in France, people MUST be subscribed to :
Crunchyroll,ADN,Wakanime,Amazon Prime, Netflix and J-One

which is really unfair and counter productive
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
You're still asking CR to violate it's licensing agreements.
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Crunchyroll has no control over this. They can only stream shows in regions in which they have the license to stream it. It has nothing to do with the location of the servers. I'm sure Crunchyroll would love to license every show for every region, but the Japanese Publishers own the IP and they decide to whom they will license their content and in what regions. Unfortunately, no petition is going to change that, nor change how the Japanese publishers do business.
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In this case it should be considered illegal and racist, because it means that they're litterally saying people can't access a content because they live in a specific country


but the weird thing is that it would make import illegal, which it is not, so actually it should depend on the location of the server
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
i don't think you undertand what region license restrictions actually means. you're barking at the wrong tree.
complain to the anime companies making those restrictions intended to maximize their profits.
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/23/18
i know what they mean but actually they can be considered racist because it's explicitely based on where people live
and crunchyroll has added in THEIr rules that VPN are prohibited it wouldn't be a problem if they didn't add it
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/24/18

Pikachuk wrote:

In this case it should be considered illegal and racist, because it means that they're litterally saying people can't access a content because they live in a specific country


but the weird thing is that it would make import illegal, which it is not, so actually it should depend on the location of the server


It's certainly not racist, because country of residence has nothing to do with race.

They are actually saying you can't access the content, because they legally don't have the right to serve that content in that region. More than likely some other entity has the rights to distribute the content in your region, so you either need to get the content from them, or petition them to release the content if they have the rights to distribute it but are not.

You are also wrong about exportation of items being legal, in many cases with Blurays, you will find a caveat that the item can only be shipped to a certain region because the seller only has rights to sell to that region.
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/23/18
with blurays it's not really a distribute only in region but a zoning, which means the bd could only be played in a player from the correct region

but it's easy to understand why people prefer illegal when the legal solutions are, maybe not racist, but discriminatory is a good word
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"i want to legally get my anime"
"where do you live"
"france"
"fuck you then"
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/23/18
I'll be honest with you, I think you are wasting you're time because it's never going to happen. What you are suggesting for CR to do is very illegal, they would be breaching and violating several contractual rights that those European licensors have and also would be subject to lawsuits. CR has said countless of times that they want to stream everything they own worldwide but there are times they cannot because of licensing reasons.

I read some of the accusations you wrote on the petitions. CR is not being racist or discriminatory, they are simply abiding by the rules they cannot break. An example of CR being discriminatory would be CR getting worldwide rights and refusing to stream it in France because "they don't like French people".
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
there's the antitrust law too
if one editor is monopolising without competition for something it's illegal because it's anti capitalist so if in france an editor can have something but other editors can't it's a problem
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18

Pikachuk wrote:

"i want to legally get my anime"
"where do you live"
"france"
"fuck you then"


That's not Crunchyroll's fault.

That's the fault of the Japanese Publisher that owns the IP and told Crunchyroll they were not allowed to distribute it.

Crunchyroll does not own what they distribute. The Japanese Publisher own what Crunchyroll distributes. Crunchyroll enters into a licensing agreement with those Publishers. They sign contracts. Those contracts tell Crunchyroll where they can distribute the content, for how long they are allowed to distribute the content, among many other things.

If Crunchyroll violates the terms of a contract

1) the Japanese publishers can sue them and cost them a lot of money
2) the Japanese publishers can choose to take the content away from them
3) the Japanese publishers may never give them rights to distribute anime again.
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/22/18
Sometimes the dark side is the only side.

There is a funny little thing about the world though, in Japan the government persecutes copyright infringements. In a lot of other countries though, you have to get sued to be punished for a copyright infringement. Now the funny thing is, when it comes to certain industries, it's often the case that either there doesn't exist someone capable of suing you, or if that entity does exist, more often than not, it's not beneficial for them to sue you.
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the main problem comes from the licences themselves, when someone buys an exploitation licence it should be international, not a "you can distribute in this country, these countries are not worth receiving it even if there's no manufacturing costs cuz it's streaming"
the licences themselves are racist
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Posted 3/22/18 , edited 3/23/18

Pikachuk wrote:

there's the antitrust law too
if one editor is monopolising without competition for something it's illegal because it's anti capitalist so if in france an editor can have something but other editors can't it's a problem


Listen kid, the bottom line is whoever obtains the license to the show (in your case Wakanim, a French licensor) has the right to stream the show and nobody else can do anything about it. This has nothing to do with racism or discrimination, it's simply business. Anime licensing is essentially an auction or a bidding process where whichever licensing company offers the most amount of money in a given time they win the rights. In your case Wakanim probably offered the most (more than CR) to win the rights. Don't expect CR to win everything because they're not multi-billionaires like Amazon or Netflix.
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