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Posted 4/7/18 , edited 4/7/18
Thanks for censoring the game Crunchyroll, time to uninstall!

Glad I didn't waste money. but having features removed(no matter how small) and compared to what you guys show on CR itself......NOPE.

bLAH BLAH, I know.

Sorry to vent up the thread, just had to rant. Appropriation yet you say you were avoiding censorship....ok then.
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Still kinda new at this game...

Can anyone tell me if these are good rolls or not?





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I don't have them so I don't know what are their skills. I usually borrow unknown characters from ramdom people to see what they like. I don't even know how the support is set up.


Regarding of the the recent news of the removal of a certain feature, my thought is that I don't particular care and I will still play it still it last. It seems that it doesn't look good for CR and they may face false advertisement complaints.

I don't care about the feature but I did write to them to express my thought. You guys should do them same if you have strong opinions about it.
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Posted 4/7/18 , edited 4/7/18
I have [Samurai Kunoichi] Yamato Mikoto, she was my first pull. I kept her because I like ninjas >w>

She's alright for when you start out. She's a Balance type so she doesn't focus on just Physical Attack or Magic. It seems those who focus on one or the other are more well off than Balanced types IMO. I just suck at using them I guess... I don't have the other 2 so I can't say anything about them. Sorry.. =(

Most people seem to want these 4*' Adventurers:

Physical Attack:
[Feline Lancer] Anya Fromel
[Heroic Liaris] Ais Wallenstein
[Sparkle Princess] Ais Wallentsein
[The Shadow] Fels

Magic Attack/Healers:
[Royal Elf] Riveria Ljos Alf
[Elven Awakening] Lefiya Viridis


Not sure what people want for Assists.. but so far my favorites are:

Physical Attack:
[Clumsy Detective] Anya Fromel
[The Sly Cat]Chloe Lolo

Magic Attack/Healer
[God of Origins] Oranous
[White Healer] Adim Teasanare

You can actually go to the "Character" Screen and check the Album out. You tap on the characters and check their skills and even see how strong they get with each Limit Break.

For Support (Assist) Characters that you pair with your Adventurers, you want to pair P.AT based Assists with P.AT Adventurers. M.AT with M.AT based..

Like my [The Shadow] Fels has [God of Origins] Oranous as his Assist. [Elven Awakening] Lefiya Viridis i have [White Healer] Adim Teasanare as her assist. What happens is that their stats get added onto the Adventurers stats maing their stats stronger.

That's how I understand it anyway. Maybe someone out there can correct anything I have wrong (I probably have lots wrong, sorry >x<) and even add on to what I have right.

I never really pay attention to game mechanics.. I just play by instinct, always have. Haha!

As for the cencoring bit. I dislike cencoring in games, but I'm still going to play that game because I was looking forward to it. The feature they took out doesn't effect the game play for me, and I wasn't looking farward to it either. The only thing I dislike about it is that Crunchyroll lied about it. That's what angers me the most. It's still a good game and I enjoy it very much.
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Posted 4/7/18 , edited 4/8/18
Interesting explanation Demonskid!

Anyway, I finally pulled Sparkle Ais Wallenstein from my latest gacha today. Feelsgoodman



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stark700 wrote:

Still kinda new at this game...

Can anyone tell me if these are good rolls or not?


I can't find anything about Onsen Samurai Mikoto, but the others seem like they'd be good for particular missions.
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I have officially cancelled my membership! I will not support companies that bow down to neo feminist and censor everything! I will not play censored games at all. I am sick of this neo feminism move where everything is censored.
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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/15/18
I'll repost this:
In the environment of the U.S. "Me Too" movement, and a growing discontent with men preying on females without consequence, this was the only rational option.

Or would you prefer Crunchyroll immediately get targeted in the media, for all anime to get conflated with porn (again), and potentially shutting the site down hastening its transformation to VRV?

Point 2, while there are a very few games brought to the West with "touch" options, companies can hide behind ESRB ratings, and layer responsibility behind stores that sold the item. Mobile games have no real marker anybody takes seriously, and kids can easily circumvent most attempts to control content -- if their parents even know how to limit it in the first place.

The UK just had a major media frenzy over a touch game that "sexualized young girls" and "normalized molestation," leading to its ban. If there are plans to expand territory to the UK, it makes sense to not get yourself banned.
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I'll repost this:
In the environment of the U.S. "Me Too" movement, and a growing discontent with men preying on females without consequence, this was the only rational option.

Or would you prefer Crunchyroll immediately get targeted in the media, for all anime to get conflated with porn (again), and potentially shutting the site down hastening its transformation to VRV?

The only rational option? People are more likely to attack the fan-service based shows on Crunchyroll rather than a mobile game you have to download and play to find out about that feature. Why would people attack a significantly more niche media like an anime mobile game rather than Crunchyroll's main focus, actual anime? If people wanted to attack that point they'd have many, many more options ignoring this game so this point doesn't really make sense. It almost sounds like you think it'd be a good idea for Crunchyroll not to host those sorts of animes either.

Point 2, while there are a very few games brought to the West with "touch" options, companies can hide behind ESRB ratings, and layer responsibility behind stores that sold the item. Mobile games have no real marker anybody takes seriously, and kids can easily circumvent most attempts to control content -- if their parents even know how to limit it in the first place.

Another poor point. The kings of anime-styled mobile games in the west, Grand Order and Fire Emblem Heroes have touch mechanics. Have you heard any big controversy about that in either of them that have effected them in the slightest? If I am to be honest about the sort of game this is, a controversy about that type of feature is likely to bring in more players, that is the market for this sort of game.

The UK just had a major media frenzy over a touch game that "sexualized young girls" and "normalized molestation," leading to its ban. If there are plans to expand territory to the UK, it makes sense to not get yourself banned.

This is probably the worst of your points. You realise a lot of mobile games just don't release in the UK at all right? There likely is no plans to release in the UK. Players who want the games will get them anyway through sites like APKPure letting you get region specific apps. Fate/Grand Order is a prime example, it has no European release but you can bet it has many players from that region.The UK is too trigger happy with censorship and its easier just to let interested players find out about the game by themselves and download it by themselves than risk potential backlash. Playstore discovery doesn't really help anime-focused games like this gain traction.
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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/8/18
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Grats Stark700! =) She's a pretty powerful character when Fully Limit Broke. Even at level 60 before limit breaking she's strong..

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Time for me to Falna Grind! I been saving my Potato Snacks for today! Use my Charms.. Keys.. what ever get some Hero Falna to drop.. Need 3 to get to the Limit Break board, and then some characters need 5 for their limit breaks! Sunday seems like the best time to use them since it's the best Falna Farming Day
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yirawk wrote:

The kings of anime-styled mobile games in the west, Grand Order and Fire Emblem Heroes have touch mechanics. Have you heard any big controversy about that in either of them that have effected them in the slightest? If I am to be honest about the sort of game this is, a controversy about that type of feature is likely to bring in more players, that is the market for this sort of game.

FEH: February 2017 (reduced face touching).
FGO: June 2017.
Me Too: October 2017.
DanMemo: March 2018.
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yirawk wrote:


The kings of anime-styled mobile games in the west, Grand Order and Fire Emblem Heroes have touch mechanics.


FGO has touch? I can hardly call it touch.
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Posted 4/8/18 , edited 4/8/18
I may not have enough memory to keep playing this game on my old iphone5S. Keep running out when it starts loading some new stuff
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I'm not sure if I should keep going after dupes in the new banner at this point. I've pulled a few of each, but my team really needs a healer so I may go back to the guaranteed x3 3 star+ banner once my two 4* tickets fail me and hope for one.
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If you care enough about the principle of the matter, in addition to not supporting the game, you can also file a complaint for false advertisement using the Federal Trade Commission complaint assistant if you live in the U.S. Here's a link if you're interested.

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/GettingStarted?NextQID=192&Url=%23%26panel1-6#crnt

I believe the appropriate level to file under is Internet Gaming. If you haven't invested in it, then there's no monetary loss, but if you invested before knowing about this and no longer wish to support the game now that you know the situation, you could probably count what you did invest. The relevant grounds would be false advertisement for having explicitly demonstrated the content in the English teaser on the official Crunchyroll Youtube Channel, coupled with explicit statements that content would be released uncensored or similarly altered made by the official Twitter account when questioned on the matter, then it having been discovered post-release that censoring did in fact occur without any official announcements or retractions of previous statements to the contrary. There are several sites out there that already have collected the relevant posts from Reddit/Twitter on the matter that you could link to in your report if you so choose. I don't know the proper subdivision to point this at, but you could use either Crunchyroll or its parent company, Ellation, but if you use the parent company, I would suggest highlighting that it is this particular division of the company.

Personally, I had been debating on trying out premium for CR, but I'll pass due to this. I'm also playing on the JP version of Memoria Freese. The community representative actually implied that people should play the JP if they care about a non-censored experience. This aspect is not relevant to the report, so I would suggest not including it, but one more aspect that may be important to include would be the representative's assertion that this is not censorship, followed by a near exact definition of the action of censoring as a description of what was done.

To those who feel it's not a big enough deal to influence their thoughts, I hope you're having fun enjoying the game, as it's actually pretty good. I also hope that you would acknowledge that regardless of the reasoning behind the decision, this is unacceptable behavior from what is supposed to be a professional organization. It's not that the content was removed; it's that it was lied about on multiple occasions and then censored. If it were put back in, problem solved. If it had never been advertised or asserted that it would be included, less of a problem, but it wouldn't have led to this, I think. It is the combination of the pre-release advertisement, the lies on censorship, and the unrepentant, closed-to-feedback behavior that has been exhibited by the community manager on behalf of the localization team that has driven me to write this post.

I wish you all a good day.
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