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Eclipse was a famous 18th century race horse who was unbeaten and is a part of the pedigree of about 95% of thoroughbred horses today. He won a race 240 yards ahead of his competition in the 2nd heat of his debut which, in horse racing terms, means the rest of the horses are nowhere, as in nowhere close to winning. So, the motto is really about being reaching for that dominance and going above and beyond to stake your claim as the very best runner, basically. It serves to drive in the point of it being a very prestigious school with a zero tolerance policy for failure.


Oh, nice. Thank you for this!
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Eclipse was a famous 18th century race horse who was unbeaten and is a part of the pedigree of about 95% of thoroughbred horses today. He won a race 240 yards ahead of his competition in the 2nd heat of his debut which, in horse racing terms, means the rest of the horses are nowhere, as in nowhere close to winning. So, the motto is really about being reaching for that dominance and going above and beyond to stake your claim as the very best runner, basically. It serves to drive in the point of it being a very prestigious school with a zero tolerance policy for failure.


Yes, I had seen someone else had posted that idea but I don't really buy it without some other evidence to support it.

Eclipse was a famous British horse during the time of the Japanese isolation. Why did the game creators or anime producers pick that specific horse for the motto? How many of the "famous horses" in the game are not Japanese or have not raced in Japan? I doubt very many.

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Jury is still out on this. but i didn't DISLIKE it. And the main's reaction to eye-patch girl was great.

Also I was expecting red headed champion suzuka to be an asuka like bitch and she's not so that sort of 'drama' is avoided.
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cooldogdonnie wrote:

Eclipse was a famous 18th century race horse who was unbeaten and is a part of the pedigree of about 95% of thoroughbred horses today. He won a race 240 yards ahead of his competition in the 2nd heat of his debut which, in horse racing terms, means the rest of the horses are nowhere, as in nowhere close to winning. So, the motto is really about being reaching for that dominance and going above and beyond to stake your claim as the very best runner, basically. It serves to drive in the point of it being a very prestigious school with a zero tolerance policy for failure.


Ohh OK if Eclipse is a horse it makes sense, thanks.

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This was another show that I watched out of a warped curiosity.

What's wrong with me that I thought it was funny and was entertained by it?

This really should worry me.
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Eclipse was a famous British horse during the time of the Japanese isolation. Why did the game creators or anime producers pick that specific horse for the motto? How many of the "famous horses" in the game are not Japanese or have not raced in Japan? I doubt very many.



I don't understand. It's a phrase famously associated with that horse, quoted in English to boot. Why would it not be about him? I first read the story of O'Kelly's bet in a Reader's Digest magazine back in the seventies but don't take my word for it. Search for "Eclipse race horse" and try to find an article that doesn't use the quote.

Coincidentally Eclipse was born on the first of April, the date the anime debuted.

As for the show itself, if it treats the racing, the training and the characters with respect I think I'll enjoy it. One thing I don't get is why so many sports shows feature coaches who are drunks, perverts, physical wrecks or all of the above. Why can't we have more coaches like Komori in "All Out"?
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One thing I don't get is why so many sports shows feature coaches who are drunks, perverts, physical wrecks or all of the above. Why can't we have more coaches like Komori in "All Out"?


I think it plays into the "underdog" idea. Not only is the MC usually new to whatever sport the anime is about but the more experienced trainers have already written them off. However the "washed up" trainer/coach sees their potential.

That or Japanese writers think Morris Buttermaker is the ideal coach.
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I don't understand. It's a phrase famously associated with that horse, quoted in English to boot. Why would it not be about him? I first read the story of O'Kelly's bet in a Reader's Digest magazine back in the seventies but don't take my word for it. Search for "Eclipse race horse" and try to find an article that doesn't use the quote.



Okay, it appears I was mistaken. One thing I should point out here is that you are the first person who has said it is an old phrase that they have quoted, rather than implying it is a phrase based on the story (and the only thing linking the phrase to the story are two common English words).
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Honestly, i wonder how they come up with these ideas. Ah anyway, it's fun if anything. Not bad.
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I wish I could find the post now, but someone on twitter had posted a link with pictures of all the girls with their real life counter-parts and their winning records, etc. But I can't find it now to share.
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ChrisDAVEY wrote:
One thing I don't get is why so many sports shows feature coaches who are drunks, perverts, physical wrecks or all of the above. Why can't we have more coaches like Komori in "All Out"?


I think it plays into the "underdog" idea. Not only is the MC usually new to whatever sport the anime is about but the more experienced trainers have already written them off. However the "washed up" trainer/coach sees their potential.

That or Japanese writers think Morris Buttermaker is the ideal coach.


Thanks saved me the effort of posting that...though we may be the only two who get the reference LOL

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I wish I could find the post now, but someone on twitter had posted a link with pictures of all the girls with their real life counter-parts and their winning records, etc. But I can't find it now to share.


Wait, what?

Well, that adds yet another dimension of weird to this show.
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Wait, what?

Well, that adds yet another dimension of weird to this show.


You know you've got a winner when you look at the horse and think, "I'd totally fap to an anthropomorphized girl version of that."
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You know you've got a winner when you look at the horse and think, "I'd totally fap to an anthropomorphized girl version of that."


When the Wikipedia entries for over half your cast end in the phrase "later became a successful breeding stallion" you have a serious problem.

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When the Wikipedia entries for over half your cast end in the phrase "later became a successful breeding stallion" you have a serious problem.



I've seen worse doujins.
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