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Need I say more? You're completely delusional if you think this kind of game can't be sold in the West. This game doesn't even come close to ANY of those, and half of them got T ratings. And furthermore, do you actually watch ANY anime on this site? Go watch the first episode of My Wife is the Student Council President and tell me poking girls in this game is too offensive for us.
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I am seriously considering dropping my membership if the company is going to lie about there policy and censor games! I won't even try the game once I heard about the censorship!

I am tired of supporting companies that support censorship! Lying company!

Soaps had more on tv than a bit of rubbing.. naked girl behinds on American Tv but forbid a bit of touching in a game. I won't play it at all! And now looks like I will be cancelling my membership since they want to support censorship.
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Call me back when you've got a PC game.
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Posted 12 days ago

marklebid wrote:


razigamer wrote:

I am quite saddened to hear about this games censorship and removal of a basic feature from the Japanese version. Found out about it from the community team over on reddit. This definitely makes me want to uninstall and for certain not spend any money on the game. I'm very glad I didn't end up buying the starter pack now that I found out this information.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DanmachiMemoriaFreeze/comments/89irz1/was_touching_removed_from_this_game/dwu7lbx/


That's like saying, "I love this game's play, feel, the clips from the series and hearing the voice actors. But I learned there was a chance I could have poked the female characters for like 10 minutes total before it got boring. So now I hate this game."


i feel wat he saying sad but apparently west audiences get offended by the dumbest things and i guess they did this because of it,they should of said so though that there is one feature missing from the west release.
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In the environment of the U.S. "Me Too" movement, and a growing discontent with men preying on females without consequence, this was the only rational option.

Or would you prefer Crunchyroll immediately get targeted in the media, for all anime to get conflated with porn (again), and potentially shutting the site down hastening its transformation to VRV?

EDIT: Point 2, while there are a very few games brought to the West with "touch" options, companies can hide behind ESRB ratings, and layer responsibility behind stores that sold the item. Mobile games have no real marker anybody takes seriously, and kids can easily circumvent most attempts to control content -- if their parents even know how to limit it in the first place.

Point 3: The UK just had a major media frenzy over a touch game that "sexualized young girls" and "normalized molestation," leading to bans.


Only rational option? You mean Harvey Weinstein grew up on anime games? This makes completely no sense.

If one action by clickbait, sensationist media can destroy a site like you say, better start packing because if they see Konosuba and that episode with Darkness and tongue bath, all hell will break lose.

Plus a political movement like "Me Too" cannot censor what content masses can and cannot consume.

So UK cares more about touch games than real child grooming gangs, which officials supported for decades, nice example to follow here.

Edit: Lying to your customers is never "the only rational option". There was that reply from official community team account that explicitly said the game wasn't censored. It's already archived, so deleting won't help. So first they censored based on political reasons, then they lied about it from an official account, then they lied that it isn't censorship.

Nope, this destroys any credibility and goodwill. You simply don't do this.
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marklebid wrote:

In the environment of the U.S. "Me Too" movement, and a growing discontent with men preying on females without consequence, this was the only rational option.

Or would you prefer Crunchyroll immediately get targeted in the media, for all anime to get conflated with porn (again), and potentially shutting the site down hastening its transformation to VRV?

EDIT: Point 2, while there are a very few games brought to the West with "touch" options, companies can hide behind ESRB ratings, and layer responsibility behind stores that sold the item. Mobile games have no real marker anybody takes seriously, and kids can easily circumvent most attempts to control content -- if their parents even know how to limit it in the first place.

Point 3: The UK just had a major media frenzy over a touch game that "sexualized young girls" and "normalized molestation," leading to bans.


What are you even talking about? None of that would have happened had this game remained uncensored. There are significantly more risque games localized that don't have any of these things happen to them.
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Got a reply after submitting that form. Guess I should have expected an automated non-answer.


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This is the Danmachi Memoria Freese team.

We sincerely apologize for the unpleasant experience.

We greatly appreciate the comments and suggestions you have provided.
Please rest assured that we will redirect your comments to the relevant department and will work towards providing a more enjoyable service to our players.

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So glad to see the censorship ( and yes despite your attempted redefinition that is what this is) getting covered here was just about to post about it. It seems the bring over as much as possible and let the fans decide philosophy is gone. I suppose this shouldn't surprise me since one of the members of waypoint - an over the top ridiculous sjw site - used to work here and the new live action shows like anime recap are obviously attempts to "normalize" anime.

To Marklebid - yes actually I would rather see the things you mention happen rather than seeing the game released censored. I could care less about what the rest of society thinks about anime - if they are only going to look at the surface level and lump all of it together fine by me. If they can not see the difference between loving consensual rubbing and rape (which given the histrionics of parts of the me too movement they evidently cannot) then let them rage. The fact I can't tell a women dressed in a sexy Halloween costume I find her costume sexy without being some kind of evil rapist (which happened to me last Halloween) well we have gone way to far. Feminists have long believed sex is evil and finding sex enjoyable and doing it for enjoyment is evil. The whole don't have children get a career movement is a cover for this. Its not about choice - women who chose to have families are looked down upon. Seen it in my life among my peers.

And don't for a minute think this won't and hasn't seeped over to the anime side. The lady who know works for waypoint worked on the anime side, (as it was the only side when she worked for Cr) the removal of the general forum and its removal from the front page are obvious SJW moves, and it won't be long before we start getting crazy localized anime or they refuse to bring over shows like Dragon Maid. I also expect more heavy handed forum moderating and banning soon. The SJW site lifecycle is unfortunately well known. I've seen several sites go down this road. Video game sites were the last victim.

I plan to fight the takeover here but I do not expect to win.
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Wow, who thought removing that was a good idea? Do they not realise who their core demographic is?

Also do they not realise they literally had it advertised in the trailer that was recently released? I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that.. I wonder if that's why it's not been released in Europe, I'm pretty sure we're a bit stricter than US/Canada on that kind of thing.
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Crunchyroll removed the "groping feature" and they are claiming it's not censorship but a matter of what is more appropriate for western audience... HOW LAME Crunchyroll is usually cool and I don't know who is responsible for this but let me tell something to that person: WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION! JUST DO YOUR JOB! Seriously, censorship is an outdated cancer that must be exterminate.
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Well, I'm not surprised. I tried to download the game on my smartphone, but it said the O S wasn't compatible.

Now that I read this and the news on Sankaku Complex, I probably won't bother.

But I still like you guys at CR and will continue to watch any Anime you bring down the pipeline!

Sometimes boycotts are never the answer.
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Don't get me wrong: I was expecting the feature since it was advertised as part of the original version.

I also think the answering of customer concerns and complaints about it on Twitter has been quite dismissive and awful.

I fully agree the West is extremely lopsided on what gets attention, with violent and sex-filled media taken as "wholesome" but violent games or any sex in games is an abomination.


Having followed video game news and the news in general for decades, that feature's risky to bring in. Two years ago it might have been possible. Such features might be possible in the future. Certain companies might find it an acceptable venture. But it's not possible right now for this company.

Companies promote no social agenda more than they support continued existence and profitability.

This is Crunchyroll's first game localization. If it bombs due to media backlash, there's no more of these coming.

They recently partnered with Funimation to defend against competition from Amazon, hiDive, Netflix etc., and while Amazon stepped back for the moment with anime they haven't pulled out. Negative media attention to one or both companies will not help them survive in a competitive market.

Such media attention is sure to dig up additional things Westerners will find objectionable, such as ... you all can think of a few shows and manga. Anime's been demonized in the past, as has Dungeons and Dragons, video games -- any number of easy targets that aren't sport-based with lots of politicians in their pockets.

If you're going to run a business, you have to pause to think "What's the worst that can happen?" The "worst" in this case is not only that the game fails, but Crunchy and Funi are sucked in too. I'd prefer they continue to bring affordable streaming and influence culture in the long run, not take gambles.
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Much like Crunchyroll, you're completely ignoring every single argument against your unbelievably skewed view of the situation. How about addressing some of our previous posts instead of going off on an uninformed rant?

I'd also like to point out that Amazon licensed Magical Girl Site this season. In the first episode alone, an innocent highschool girl gets tied up, beaten, nearly drowned, and NEARLY RAPED. Explain to me how poking a character in a video game is worse than that.
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pokedude900 wrote:
I'd also like to point out that Amazon licensed Magical Girl Site this season. In the first episode alone, an innocent highschool girl gets tied up, beaten, nearly drowned, and NEARLY RAPED. Explain to me how poking a character in a video game is worse than that.


It's not. But one gets more attention than another.
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I really don't like the idea of you censoring this.
You have something of a monopoly on anime simulcasts and we can't even trust you to leave things uncensored
You can sit there and say its something silly like touching someone innopropatly but regardless of context that doesn't make it ok to outright alter and over-step your boundaries when localising something.
Are you going to start censoring anime? Will you cut scenes out that you deem inappropriate? How can we believe you?

Your reasoning is particularly worrying
"but due to what is appropriate and not appropriate for English audiences."
Are you saying that if an anime contains a scene you feel isn't appropriate you would cut it from your simulcast?
You're suggestion was to simply play the Japanese game, Are you going to suggest in this case we should watch a downloaded rip of the Japanese broadcast in this case too?
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