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Posted 8 days ago

ronchester44 wrote:

I speak for all mediocrities in the world, I am their champion, their patron saint


Congratulations. Now just learn how to actually post something worth reading. All you did was

1. Come and criticize an original poster for no reason.
2. Make an obvious observation that even an 8 year old could make.
3. Make a ridiculous claim for your own, obviously arrogant self. (even if it is sarcasm)

That's called trolling in most people's books. (Hint: The books contains opinions)

We don't need some 16 year old who thinks he knows everything (he doesn't) making pointless points about how opinions aren't facts like its some kind of philosophical breakthrough, when the boards are here CLEARLY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN POST THEIR OPINIONS.

Now go be a good chap and eat your soft boiled egg.

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With that out of the way, what do people consider standards of a good anime or not? There's obviously a lot of rehashed IP's (Gundam/Fate)
and some are better than other but some are definitely mediocre. Do you use that as a standard or would you put those in their own group having garnered some success (success doesn't always equate to being excellent) in their past iterations for there to be rehashes?
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 8 days ago
I had the misfortune of watching a few Digibro videos. Well I started to watch them...

His "How to tell a good anime from the first episode" should have been titled "Why Digibro hates Gate". Any show where the main character is male, and the majority of the other characters are female triggers him pretty hard.
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The quotes I reuse from genshiken:

"Why do you watch this, is it interesting?"

"Uh, well, I find it interesting to see if it is interesting."

Anime's fandom is based around the community on a collective journey through each season, not some objective pillars of quality. Discussing what is good with your friends is the heart of everything. The idea of looking to an e-messiah to determine quality - and if quality matters at all - is moot.

All Anime could be trash and I'd still be having fun with my friends. Fansubbers would still enjoy their weekly slog. Fanartists will continue to ship the least interesting people in the most popular show that season. The only quality that truly matters is the dedication of the fans.
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 8 days ago
There's a couple Digibro videos where he's made good points but overall he's an opinionated blowhard.
Completely agreed with Icecreamsnow above, the mentioned video has little to do with common traits of objectively bad shows and was just him bitching about things he doesn't like, and most of which don't even really apply to Gate but he wouldn't know that since he didn't even give it a fair chance.
He's about as reliable for anime reviews as that kid in your college anime club who keeps wearing loli shirts.
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 8 days ago
Congratulations, it was a quote from the film Amadeus, go watch it, it's good

Also, I wasn't criticising anyone

But if you want to be a pretentious asshole who misinterprets everything I say, that's fine by me

Now go be a good chap and clean your motorbike


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Posted 8 days ago

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Yamstarch wrote:

lol "Digibro + good"




Care to elaborate who this person is?

Legit have not heard of the channel.


He's only had like dozens of channels, sites, and blogs/vlogs over the years. It's hard to sift through all the garbage. Even his own friends have called him out online, on their blogs, their YT channels, etc.

I dare say do not go digging. It's simply not worth it. He's a hack.

Just for a super brief summary:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/Digibro
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 8 days ago

Yamstarch wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:


Yamstarch wrote:

lol "Digibro + good"




Care to elaborate who this person is?

Legit have not heard of the channel.


He's only had like dozens of channels, sites, and blogs/vlogs over the years. It's hard to sift through all the garbage. Even his own friends have called him out online, on their blogs, their YT channels, etc.

I dare say do not go digging. It's simply not worth it. He's a hack.

Just for a super brief summary:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebVideo/Digibro


This is a test.

So he is a cunt...

I do not read (anticipation nor discussion forums), watch, nor take in anime reviews from any source.

I suggest others do the same. Perhaps it is only CR, but the "discussions" turn into name calling and bashing and hardly elevates into an exchange of ideas.

There have been very very very few threads with an actual dialogue and very few individuals who actually have these dialogue.

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Posted 8 days ago

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I suggest others do the same. Perhaps it is only CR, but the "discussions" turn into name calling and bashing and hardly elevates into an exchange of ideas.

There have been very very very few threads with an actual dialogue and very few individuals who actually have these dialogue.



Pretty much this. it used to be fun. But now it seems like people just look for arguments and to tear down what they dislike or over-analyze "Japanese Cartoons"

I like to just be a dumb kid on the forums, crack jokes, oohh and aahh and hype up shows that I like with fellow fans. that time feels much like it has passed in the past 13-14 months on CR. It's really gone downhill. Threads I used to frequent, I am afraid to even poke my nose in now.

Now I am no stranger to calling out grievances like most recently in the DxD Hero or Gundam Build fighters threads.

But, these are series I like and expect something of.
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Posted 8 days ago

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Pretty much this. it used to be fun. But now it seems like people just look for arguments and to tear down what they dislike or over-analyze "Japanese Cartoons"

I like to just be a dumb kid on the forums, crack jokes, oohh and aahh and hype up shows that I like with fellow fans. that time feels much like it has passed in the past 13-14 months on CR. It's really gone downhill. Threads I used to frequent, I am afraid to even poke my nose in now.

Now I am no stranger to calling out grievances like most recently in the DxD Hero or Gundam Build fighters threads.

But, these are series I like and expect something of.


I enjoyed this site at one point. I have met 2 groups of people on here and those were good times.

There are two grievances I have:

(1) be on Cr for so long. Having been on this site for 11 years it has not been great the latter portion.

(2) fansubbing anime... I first went into fansubbing anime when CR was not legal (also did some bleach episodes for CR). My goal was to bring anime here to create a community who liked watching but did not access to translations.

The community was great... We dick'd around but for the most part we were not toxic. Toxic.

We were a bunch of college students wanting to share the joys of anime, but fansubbing turned into who had the bigger epenis. Who subbed what first and the quality. It created a demand because of DMCAs to groups based in the US, so Shinji saw this opportunity to turn legal to make it a business.

To profit from anime, and when you are a corporate trying to turn a profit, you market this stuff. The downfall was fansubbing had already gather enough attention to CR.

CR had a online video player it had a reasonably good forum system for people to talk about shows. So the consumer base was there already established by fansubbing.

The dark side, as I coined it. I torrent, but others did not. So asking around, "oh crunchyroll you can watch anime". Well shit...

When your population grows you cannot control that, but unfortunately we ended up with what we have now. We as the fans killed anime discussions because we do not know how to contribute to a meaningful dialogue.

I will not say would anime not have come to west if fansubbing did not exist? No. I will say fansubbing did not help keep the dicks who come on here just for the sake of finding someone to argue with.

I lurk, but I do not find anything interesting about the forums anymore.
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 8 days ago

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I remember now... I thought you were familiar, I've been on CR since 07' and I used to always see you on a lot of threads. (My account says since 2013, I nuked my original account to take a three year break from watching anime.) I had no idea you were one of the OGs.
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Posted 8 days ago , edited 7 days ago

Yamstarch wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:



I suggest others do the same. Perhaps it is only CR, but the "discussions" turn into name calling and bashing and hardly elevates into an exchange of ideas.

There have been very very very few threads with an actual dialogue and very few individuals who actually have these dialogue.



Pretty much this. it used to be fun. But now it seems like people just look for arguments and to tear down what they dislike or over-analyze "Japanese Cartoons"

I like to just be a dumb kid on the forums, crack jokes, oohh and aahh and hype up shows that I like with fellow fans. that time feels much like it has passed in the past 13-14 months on CR. It's really gone downhill. Threads I used to frequent, I am afraid to even poke my nose in now.

Now I am no stranger to calling out grievances like most recently in the DxD Hero or Gundam Build fighters threads.

But, these are series I like and expect something of.


I have to agree. Instead of demanding "more" as if it were of some paramount importance, why should we even care again?

I do not mind analysis if it shows a deep appreciation, but I am annoyed at all this derision towards newer shows, and the dwindling number of individuals who are not so adverse to discussion as to label any minute issue expressed an attack.

People take everything so seriously. Why don't we all relax and have a couple of drinks?

I actually miss the olden days too. Discussion was a thing. We had a thriving drama populace. Now look at us. Vitriol and rancor everywhere. Any mild attempt at actual discussion is impugned with the most caustic lashback, because gosh forbid criticism and questioning, and even fewer people are aware that their criticism are more than just tinged with aggressive negativity.

The number of times I have been insulted have increased, and now I am developing super gout at the amount of salt I see.
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Posted 7 days ago , edited 7 days ago
It's interesting to me to see people talking about how discussion at CR seems more rancorous now than before. I'm a refugee from ANN which I think is an inane nanny state where overzealous mods snuff out any discussion that isn't drenched in a fake, banal "polite and respectful" manner. Look, people are going to get chippy on the Internet and it doesn't matter what the subject matter is. So unlike probably a lot of you, I actually like seeing that you can get a bit of a dander up and not be instantly clamped down on.

But to get back on topic, that Digibro dude strikes me as a bit of a tool. I really have no respect for a viewer who gets their nose out of joint because a show's visuals aren't ultra yummy in every single frame. I enjoy the classics and I enjoy new stuff. This "ah, the good old days versus today" is really a bunch of bull.
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Posted 7 days ago

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The number of times I have been insulted have increased, and now I am developing super gout at the amount of salt I see.


This is a huge problem in many fandoms especially in nerd culture. I've been a part of that community for well over 30 years and experienced it all from comic books, to action figures, anime, video games, card and tabletop games,and movies. It's truly an issue. I admit I am a part of the problem too at times. I generally have issues with the fujoshi community. Or with the hype of a series simply for the sake of hype or there isnt much better. And I know that to be hypocritical. But I generally only get mean and defensive once provoked. Not always, but generally.

The thin skin of the anime community as a whole is one of the absolute worst though. Combined with egos, superioty complexes, and cumpulsions towards hammerimg your thoughts and opinions into others just because you can. It's one of the reasons I left ANN and other forums for CR when I "discovered" it a few years ago. Now CR is already garbage for the most part.

I'll say that overall I believe the comic book fandom is the worst. But, the anime community has far more narcissm and "memeness" to it. Some of the stuff people try to argue as good/bad seems to be for the simple sake of doing so and to create division, controversy, and the aforementioned "memes."

The anime community as a whole makes me scratch my head in trying to understand what is good/bad.


TL;DR - get down with the memes or not at all.
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Posted 7 days ago , edited 7 days ago
We should all stop talking about Digibro and move on with life. If you check his anime recommendation's you will see they all suck anyways, so let's just close this thing down already and move on.

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I finally watched Digibro's video (not all of it, I gave up after 15 minutes) and of course he only complained about the animation quality. Sure, he tried to make other points as well but whenever he went into detail it was always about the animation .
Of course the animation is an important part but almost nobody would drop an anime or sit through 12+ episodes
because of the animation quality. And that's not a new development.
Besides, to me it's the laziest way of criticising an anime, and the most annoying one. We can all see how good or bad the animation in an anime is. There's no point in talking about it the whole time.
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