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Progression to Mass Murder
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Maybe that person is angry about something and just decided to leave this world after doing something "Great".... like mass killing....

Well i donno... casue i am not one of those.... Psyco
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abel89 wrote:

Postal Shootings, Mall Shootings, School shootings, in other words, Mass murder
In the past few years, these happenings have been occuring often enough to almost seem constant now

What do you think makes a person suddenly willing to slaughter people in large numbers?
What do you think goes through their heads up to and during the act?
What kind of person do you think would do such a thing?


As I have read other posts regarding school shootings on this forum, I have seen a staggering amount of speculation and unfair generalizations, as well as other things I didn't like and just didn't seem fair to me

As a person who has actually contemplated and plotted mass murder growing up, I feel that I'm the best qualified to answer the above questions and give some insight on the subject. These are the progressions to mass murder, from my personal experience


1. Alienation and/or Rejection from society
Growing up with the certain skin condition I was born with, made me a social pariah as a child, other children as well as a number of adults, tormented, ridiculed and shunned me to a point where I came to a realization early in my life, that everyone hated me and that I wasn't supposed to have friends, eventually I came to see humans as simply my enemies, they sure as hell weren't my allies, not in my eyes.


2.The "state of War" situation
After the events of stage one, one begins to believe that they are actually in some sort of "cold war" with society. Every day if I so much as walked 10 feet from my house, I was devising plans to counter any enemy "assaults"(I'll let you guess on that one) that might come out of nowhere, as they often did when I was a kid, I felt like everyone was against me, every time I went in public with my family, strange people would stare at me, following me with their eyes, as if they were plotting something, as a result I became increasingly paranoid.


3. Anger and Hatred
Soon enough, you become angry with people, in the beginning it's simply fear and paranoia, as well as a deep sadness. But at a certain point, you get fed up with it all, you become disillusioned with people in general. You think about how much damage, both mentally and physically, people have caused you. And soon enough, you begin to hate them.


4. "What did I do?"
After a while one begins to ask them self, "what did I do", what did I do to deserve this hatred people have for me, what did I do to deserve the torment, the ridicule, the names, the broken glasses, the raical slurs, the beatings etc. With me I began to realize, that I had done nothing at all, I was innocent, I never made fun of anyone, I never made fun of another's misfortune, I never broke anyone's glasses or called anyone a "White boy". I just offered my friendship, only to have them spit in my face and worse.


5. Suicidal Thoughts
At one point when I was 7 or 8, I thought it best for me to just die. That way I wouldn't have to deal with it all, and my exiestence wouldn't piss anybody else off. And everyone would be happy and just better off as a whole, at the time, I thought it was what they wanted. They surely didn't want me alive, judging by the way they had treated me. Then I realized that I wasn't the one who deserved to die.....


6. The "solution"
After one has the 2 aforementioned thoughts, and realize their innocence, they come to the realization that they are not the ones to blame. They realize that "those people", are the root of it all, and they begin to believe, that those people, are nothing but evil, evil beyond any redemption. And therefore, must be punished and "removed" from this Earth, never to harm you or anyone else, ever again. Because I didn't think anyone else desevred to go through what I did


Miraculously, I was one of the majority that never acted on those thoughts. Believe it or not, there are more people mentally capable of that thought process then you might think

So beware of how you treat others, especially in America, because in my personal opinion
If you commit a violent act on another person or just bully and torment them and make his or her life a living hell, then you deserve to have your head blown off


alrighty well hahaha you pretty much said every possible reason i could have said why. so you stole my answer how dare you ahahahaha and well i think its normal to think that way im pretty sure everyone has thought bout killing alot of ppl hahaha well not to the extent of planning it all out but thoughts ya ppl who plan it out well they should try to figure out why and fix the problem cause im pretty sure its not good to kill ppl cause if your caught then your gonna most likely get the death penalty haha so either plan it well enough to were you arent gonna get caught or dont do it at all hahaha but i see nothing wrong with killing a few ppl hahahaha and like i said anyone would do that because well thats just the way ppl are and they probably thinking ya im makin progress i pretty much killed 5 ppl only a billion more to go hahahaha
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Progress is an evil best friend.
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in our school,only wannabes & asskissers got their wallets emptied out by bullies, who inturn, got their wallets emptied by gangsters. It was a vicous never-ending cycle but only a clique could save you.Even a small one with 4-5 close friends.
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abel89 wrote:

Postal Shootings, Mall Shootings, School shootings, in other words, Mass murder
In the past few years, these happenings have been occuring often enough to almost seem constant now

What do you think makes a person suddenly willing to slaughter people in large numbers?
What do you think goes through their heads up to and during the act?
What kind of person do you think would do such a thing?


As I have read other posts regarding school shootings on this forum, I have seen a staggering amount of speculation and unfair generalizations, as well as other things I didn't like and just didn't seem fair to me

As a person who has actually contemplated and plotted mass murder growing up, I feel that I'm the best qualified to answer the above questions and give some insight on the subject. These are the progressions to mass murder, from my personal experience


1. Alienation and/or Rejection from society
Growing up with the certain skin condition I was born with, made me a social pariah as a child, other children as well as a number of adults, tormented, ridiculed and shunned me to a point where I came to a realization early in my life, that everyone hated me and that I wasn't supposed to have friends, eventually I came to see humans as simply my enemies, they sure as hell weren't my allies, not in my eyes.


2.The "state of War" situation
After the events of stage one, one begins to believe that they are actually in some sort of "cold war" with society. Every day if I so much as walked 10 feet from my house, I was devising plans to counter any enemy "assaults"(I'll let you guess on that one) that might come out of nowhere, as they often did when I was a kid, I felt like everyone was against me, every time I went in public with my family, strange people would stare at me, following me with their eyes, as if they were plotting something, as a result I became increasingly paranoid.


3. Anger and Hatred
Soon enough, you become angry with people, in the beginning it's simply fear and paranoia, as well as a deep sadness. But at a certain point, you get fed up with it all, you become disillusioned with people in general. You think about how much damage, both mentally and physically, people have caused you. And soon enough, you begin to hate them.


4. "What did I do?"
After a while one begins to ask them self, "what did I do", what did I do to deserve this hatred people have for me, what did I do to deserve the torment, the ridicule, the names, the broken glasses, the raical slurs, the beatings etc. With me I began to realize, that I had done nothing at all, I was innocent, I never made fun of anyone, I never made fun of another's misfortune, I never broke anyone's glasses or called anyone a "White boy". I just offered my friendship, only to have them spit in my face and worse.


5. Suicidal Thoughts
At one point when I was 7 or 8, I thought it best for me to just die. That way I wouldn't have to deal with it all, and my exiestence wouldn't piss anybody else off. And everyone would be happy and just better off as a whole, at the time, I thought it was what they wanted. They surely didn't want me alive, judging by the way they had treated me. Then I realized that I wasn't the one who deserved to die.....


6. The "solution"
After one has the 2 aforementioned thoughts, and realize their innocence, they come to the realization that they are not the ones to blame. They realize that "those people", are the root of it all, and they begin to believe, that those people, are nothing but evil, evil beyond any redemption. And therefore, must be punished and "removed" from this Earth, never to harm you or anyone else, ever again. Because I didn't think anyone else desevred to go through what I did


Miraculously, I was one of the majority that never acted on those thoughts. Believe it or not, there are more people mentally capable of that thought process then you might think

So beware of how you treat others, especially in America, because in my personal opinion
If you commit a violent act on another person or just bully and torment them and make his or her life a living hell, then you deserve to have your head blown off

"If you commit a violent act on another person or just bully and torment them and make his or her life a living hell, then you deserve to have your head blown off"...i dont aggree with that statement...why not just beat their asses so they wont bother u again? i was bullied as a child to, but through the disiplines of martial arts, i was able to not only fend off attackers, but dissolve fights b4 they happen as well as ignore degrading remarks.People should only be killed if they r immediatly threatening to take your life, killing people because of thier own ignorance makes u no different then Hitler, or the bullies them selves...(some historians say hitler was "bullied" by jews, thats wut drove him to make concentration camps") peace over war
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h4x0rz wrote:

in our school,only wannabes & asskissers got their wallets emptied out by bullies, who inturn, got their wallets emptied by gangsters. It was a vicous never-ending cycle but only a clique could save you.Even a small one with 4-5 close friends.


couldnt a gun or knive save u as well? or maybe a good old fasion ass whoppen? peace over war
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thats why people should keep a list. That way when they do eventully snap they get the people that fked with them and not innocent by standers.
Posted 10/29/08
well u answered all the questions that u asked..
i watched documentaries some of these mass murderers..
and its what exactly u said..
one sign of a person becoming one is when he's..
threatening and stalking someone..
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Or they may just want to go out in style....
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abel89 wrote:

Postal Shootings, Mall Shootings, School shootings, in other words, Mass murder
In the past few years, these happenings have been occuring often enough to almost seem constant now

What do you think makes a person suddenly willing to slaughter people in large numbers?
What do you think goes through their heads up to and during the act?
What kind of person do you think would do such a thing?


As I have read other posts regarding school shootings on this forum, I have seen a staggering amount of speculation and unfair generalizations, as well as other things I didn't like and just didn't seem fair to me

As a person who has actually contemplated and plotted mass murder growing up, I feel that I'm the best qualified to answer the above questions and give some insight on the subject. These are the progressions to mass murder, from my personal experience


1. Alienation and/or Rejection from society
Growing up with the certain skin condition I was born with, made me a social pariah as a child, other children as well as a number of adults, tormented, ridiculed and shunned me to a point where I came to a realization early in my life, that everyone hated me and that I wasn't supposed to have friends, eventually I came to see humans as simply my enemies, they sure as hell weren't my allies, not in my eyes.


2.The "state of War" situation
After the events of stage one, one begins to believe that they are actually in some sort of "cold war" with society. Every day if I so much as walked 10 feet from my house, I was devising plans to counter any enemy "assaults"(I'll let you guess on that one) that might come out of nowhere, as they often did when I was a kid, I felt like everyone was against me, every time I went in public with my family, strange people would stare at me, following me with their eyes, as if they were plotting something, as a result I became increasingly paranoid.


3. Anger and Hatred
Soon enough, you become angry with people, in the beginning it's simply fear and paranoia, as well as a deep sadness. But at a certain point, you get fed up with it all, you become disillusioned with people in general. You think about how much damage, both mentally and physically, people have caused you. And soon enough, you begin to hate them.


4. "What did I do?"
After a while one begins to ask them self, "what did I do", what did I do to deserve this hatred people have for me, what did I do to deserve the torment, the ridicule, the names, the broken glasses, the raical slurs, the beatings etc. With me I began to realize, that I had done nothing at all, I was innocent, I never made fun of anyone, I never made fun of another's misfortune, I never broke anyone's glasses or called anyone a "White boy". I just offered my friendship, only to have them spit in my face and worse.


5. Suicidal Thoughts
At one point when I was 7 or 8, I thought it best for me to just die. That way I wouldn't have to deal with it all, and my exiestence wouldn't piss anybody else off. And everyone would be happy and just better off as a whole, at the time, I thought it was what they wanted. They surely didn't want me alive, judging by the way they had treated me. Then I realized that I wasn't the one who deserved to die.....


6. The "solution"
After one has the 2 aforementioned thoughts, and realize their innocence, they come to the realization that they are not the ones to blame. They realize that "those people", are the root of it all, and they begin to believe, that those people, are nothing but evil, evil beyond any redemption. And therefore, must be punished and "removed" from this Earth, never to harm you or anyone else, ever again. Because I didn't think anyone else desevred to go through what I did


Miraculously, I was one of the majority that never acted on those thoughts. Believe it or not, there are more people mentally capable of that thought process then you might think

So beware of how you treat others, especially in America, because in my personal opinion
If you commit a violent act on another person or just bully and torment them and make his or her life a living hell, then you deserve to have your head blown off



1. What do you think makes a person suddenly willing to slaughter people in large numbers?
I would agree with the stages you mentioned.
2. What do you think goes through their heads up to and during the act?
They are ultimately seeking retaliation, so I would assume that that would be the primary basis of their thoughts.
3. What kind of person do you think would do such a thing?
Anyone, if put in the right circumstances.

As for your last comment, I would disagree. A person who bullies or torments another person doesn't deserve to have his/her head blown off. He/she deserves to be bullied or tormented in return. Unless, of course, you believe in forgiveness.
Posted 10/29/08
We sometimes blame "society" too much, my self included. That's part of the reason why there are thoughts of "mass murder". I'm pretty sure you won't even care what I'm about to write, because I brushed these kinds of comments off myself.

Africans, Jews, Indians...etc had to fight for their rights/respect for their lives as I call it. They came together and risked their lives to voice their opinions.
Sadly, we feel that no one understands us and remain silent and suffer alone. What I'm trying to say is that, maybe some brave soul among us who isn't afraid to pour out his feelings and reveal the scars will stand up to bullying. By using his voice. Not by murder.

I was never naivee enough to believe any of this crap, even though I thought of it as a child. But I wish I had spoken up instead of relying on someone or "society" to speak up. Which never happened.
Even though it won't solve the problem, it might help others feel there is someone out there who feels their pain and understand this is unacceptable.

When I imigrated to the US, I was a flashing neon sign for bullying. Make fun of this kid's eyes. Look at that hand medown. What's with that face? Are you mute? What's wrong stupid? Go back to where you belong!

I didn't know English, which was as much of a blessing as it was a curse. I didn't have to hear their horrible words for me, but at the same time their laughter and gestures made me feel concious, paranoid and insecure. I didn't know why either. I had done nothing wrong. Unfortunately, I am still unable to stand up to bullying when I see it around me. I hate myself for this.

(before I finish, I just wanted to say thank you for sharing. I've never talked about this in detail with anyone before so this is the first time I've let this off my chest...)
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