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Posted 24 days ago , edited 24 days ago
It hasn't come out yet so no one can say for sure, but with what we've seen so far I don't have high hopes for it. One only has to glance at the cover art to note the Tumblr/CalArts style that has been rampant in the west since the popularization of Steven Universe, and the obvious selective hiring of staff isn't the best sign either. This reminds me quite a bit of the controversy surrounding the new She-Ra series, which also shares a similar art style and strong PC political lean among its creators. I would like to see the western animation industry to thrive and expand its demographics in a similar way to how it is in Japan, and I feel this may be a bit of a missed opportunity for that. Personally the Netflix Castlevania series is the sort of direction I'd prefer to see western animation go in. I believe all we need is one good mainstream hit to popularize non-comedic adult western animation, similar to what The Simpsons did for animated western comedies. I don't believe High Guardian Spice is going to do that or appeal to pre-existing western anime fans. That all said, I've been surprised by things before so I'll give it a shot.



(If you haven't seen Netflix's Castlevania yet then you definitely should. Despite being an adaptation of a Japanese video game, its an entirely American production with American writers, animators, and voice actors, that if it were Japanese would have been one of the best anime of its season. Definitely the kind of thing to encourage.)
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Posted 24 days ago , edited 22 days ago
First thought was :"Oh, more swords and sorcery. Looks kind of cute and maybe fun."

Then they start trying to show off their SJW cred and demonstrate their doublethink abilities.


production team features an all-female writing room, along with a diverse and passionate group of artists and creatives


Also, Kate Leth is one of your writers? The writer who ruined Hellcat?

Maybe you should have gone with something a bit stronger and safer for the launch of your original content creation.
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Posted 23 days ago , edited 15 days ago
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-1023675/high-guardian-spice?pg=42
So is this one going to get locked too? A few people were being pretty annoying in that thread with circular arguments and quote pyramids. But I fail to see how discussion about the content of their launch video and how we feel about the ideals they were presenting in it means everyone who participated in that thread had some kind of political bone to pick from page one.

Crunchyroll chose to focus more on identity politics than animation in their video, not us.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 15 days ago

Balzack wrote:

Crunchyroll chose to focus more on identity politics than animation in their video, not us.


"Pay no attention to those politics in that trailer! The great Crunchyroll has spoken!"

If CR didn't want us to discuss their video's identity politics, they shouldn't have put them in the video. Which is what most people, myself included, were saying anyway. Just sell the show... on the show itself. And regardless of what that mod says, he represents CR.
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Yeah, but this is a creative work not a technical one. If I want to make a show about a Australian boy I probably hire the most male austrlians writers that I can because that way I can preserve the "authenticity" of the work, or I can hire people of just two or three different social and ethnic backgrounds to make a proyect whit the mindset of that people alone.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago

LordDargGato wrote:

Yeah, but this is a creative work not a technical one. If I want to make a show about a Australian boy I probably hire the most male austrlians writers that I can because that way I can preserve the "authenticity" of the work, or I can hire people of just two or three different social and ethnic backgrounds to make a proyect whit the mindset of that people alone.


That’s logical. The people making the show want to tell stories through characters like themselves.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago
5% saying "I like it!"

Ouch.

It's such a shame, really, this had some pretty awesome building blocks to get excited about but they then spend 2/3rds of it waffling about themselves rather than why this show is going to be awesome.

When you read the guff surrounding it, they claim they had taken people from this community to make the show, and that people have been asking for their own "exclusive" show for a while. Yet as seen here now, it's either not the right kind of show (sorry guys, but even reading the small crumbs released, it's generic) or has people of very very questionable talent at the helm, like Kate Leth who's writing for Hellcat was dismal and resulted in the comic being cancelled when the character was one of the earliest examples of the female superhero (1944!).

I mean, if we're going with how to do anime-inspired shows right... Ellation should've really learnt better from RWBY. Which, ironically, is an IP they own.

That worked as they put out the teaser trailers showing characters first, then spoke about how the team behind it all became anime fans because Monty Oum pushed them to go check out various series to get a better tonal feel of what they wanted to go for.

Were I a crazyman, I'd have said this was done precisely to annoy their core customer base. Because, ya know, of how many other times its happened before now.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago

7Continents wrote:
, that if it were Japanese would have been one of the best anime of its season. Definitely the kind of thing to encourage.)


i should point out. you don't know that. a lot of video game animes had a tendency to be VERY VERY bad.

it has gotten better over the years, but even the new Ace attorney anime is average compared to the masterpiece game it adapted.


anyway as much as i find the SJW nonsense godawful. i also find the reaction culture of being controversial on purpose. equally annoying. so let them run the show if its awful then it well fail. no ones forcing you to watch it.

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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago

Heruss wrote:

I mean, if we're going with how to do anime-inspired shows


Calling HGS anime inspired is misleading advertising, at least whoever did the drawings has not watched anything but american cartoons, whether it is by choice or lack of drawing skill does not change those visuals. We have yet to see if the plot has anything "anime inspired", but unless proven wrong I do not think anyone in this project is part of the anime community, there would be plenty of proof in the form of posts in social networks or even on this very forum talking about animes shown only thru streaming.


hazerddex wrote:

no ones forcing you to watch it.



Most of the time I agree, I am the kind of persons that does not get into threads of series unless they manage to provoke a god awful feeling in me (so here I am). The thing is, if the government sponsored something you are against, obviously you would protest. This is no different, the money for HGS is coming from premium subscriptions, do not delude yourself thinking AT&T is paying the bill, they OWN crunchy and now it is their money cow, not the other way around. Since (unlike taxes) paying a premium subscriptions is a personal choice, many people have no other choice to make their voices heard, since Crunchy has a track record of ignoring the pleas from their userbase (no, the HTML5 player is not the only user petition).

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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago

hazerddex wrote:


7Continents wrote:
, that if it were Japanese would have been one of the best anime of its season. Definitely the kind of thing to encourage.)


i should point out. you don't know that. a lot of video game animes had a tendency to be VERY VERY bad.

it has gotten better over the years, but even the new Ace attorney anime is average compared to the masterpiece game it adapted.



I dont understand what you're trying to say. The Castlevania series has already been out for a while and is very good, so how would I "not know that"?
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago

Ravenstein wrote:

First thought was :"Oh, more swords and sorcery. Looks kind of cute and maybe fun."

Then they start trying to show off their SJW cred and demonstrate their doublethink abilities.


production team features an all-female writing room, along with a diverse and passionate group of artists and creatives




Yeah, why bring that up at all? Is that supposed to be a good thing?

I consider good writing to be a good thing, not whether the writers are girls or boys or martians or clones of one another or the broadest spectrum of the social rainbow.

Is this what my subscription money is being spent on?
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago
Man a whole 8 people are excited for it?

Honestly thats more than I expected...
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago
I don't care. Mostly.

The reveal was a shameful piece of SJW propaganda (do they even realize that, by definition, 100% women writers isn't actually diverse?), and not really any kind of reveal for the show in question at all. It's doesn't look, meaning the art style, like anything I'd be interested in, but maybe it'll be a good show. Even if it's steeped in the SocJus, whatever, no skin off my nose, if SJWs want to make new properties for each other to enjoy that's great! I only care when they pervert existing properties (see the last few years of Marvel Comics...Kate Leth...serisouly? My hopes for High Guardian Spice are LOW; I read some of that Hellcat run, it was terrible).

All that said, the only bit I care about at all here is that presumably some part of my Crunchyroll premium helped to pay for this Cartoon Network looking show, and that is not cool. If it looked more like a North American anime, like Voltron or Castlevania, that'd be fine, but it just looks like CN tripe without the old flair of the original Powerpuff Girls.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago
When you are promoting a show you need to actually talk about the show (its setting, the characters, themes, etc.).
Idk what I think about the show itself until I see it, however the advertising campaign so far has been a mess.
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Posted 22 days ago , edited 22 days ago
Oh man. I feel like I would have voted "I don't like it." but I just watched what I think was a couple hours of YouTube videos at 2X and 1.5X speed and coming out of it I noticed that I was literally reading in slow motion. At :45 I know that usually I would have been rolling my eyes, but nah. I legitimately just didn't care. Hopefully it's not just that my brain is tired. Hopefully I just legitimately don't care anymore.

If it's 50% female staff, and 100% female writing staff with their pink hair and what have you then this Black dude probably isn't part of the audience for it anyway. Since I'm not the audience for it I doubt I can submit any good criticisms, so it's just whatever. It's not made for me. I don't care. At this point, I think the only reason I'm even here is out of habit. I think it's funny how much everyone hates it, but whatever, you do you. My usual catchphrase might not fit here, but you know, who cares? Everybody clap your hands!
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