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Corporal punishment for kids?
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Kids can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it...
And they KNOW this.
So if we punished them, maybe they'll re-think about what they're
really doing.
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How old is to old for spankings or hitting with belt or paddle? I say 16.
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well traditional it's spanking..
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niks6 wrote:

Kids can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it...
And they KNOW this.
So if we punished them, maybe they'll re-think about what they're
really doing.


lol have you seen child abuse laws these days? you can even yell at your kids anymore. my mom hit me yelled at me and all that shit when i was a mean little shit and im glad she did now but i admit back then i hated her for it
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BOYVIRO666 wrote:


niks6 wrote:

Kids can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it...
And they KNOW this.
So if we punished them, maybe they'll re-think about what they're
really doing.


lol have you seen child abuse laws these days? you can even yell at your kids anymore. my mom hit me yelled at me and all that shit when i was a mean little shit and im glad she did now but i admit back then i hated her for it


You mean you can't yell at them
Probably sue for mental truama...pfft.
Lame:)
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niks6 wrote:


BOYVIRO666 wrote:


niks6 wrote:

Kids can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it...
And they KNOW this.
So if we punished them, maybe they'll re-think about what they're
really doing.


lol have you seen child abuse laws these days? you can even yell at your kids anymore. my mom hit me yelled at me and all that shit when i was a mean little shit and im glad she did now but i admit back then i hated her for it


You mean you can't yell at them
Probably sue for mental truama...pfft.
Lame:)


yeah my aunts neighbor called the cops on my aunt once cuz she was yelling at her son for almost burning the house down. she had to go to anger managment or else have him taken away.

we egged that dudes house then trenched his yard for that
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BOYVIRO666 wrote:


niks6 wrote:


BOYVIRO666 wrote:


niks6 wrote:

Kids can do whatever the hell they want and get away with it...
And they KNOW this.
So if we punished them, maybe they'll re-think about what they're
really doing.


lol have you seen child abuse laws these days? you can even yell at your kids anymore. my mom hit me yelled at me and all that shit when i was a mean little shit and im glad she did now but i admit back then i hated her for it


You mean you can't yell at them
Probably sue for mental truama...pfft.
Lame:)


yeah my aunts neighbor called the cops on my aunt once cuz she was yelling at her son for almost burning the house down. she had to go to anger managment or else have him taken away.

we egged that dudes house then trenched his yard for that


Wtf
Did she tell her neighbours on the terms of WHY
she was yelling at her son?
If so, your aunts neighbours are weird.
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her neighbors are fuckheads they dont even have kids yet they want to tell others how to raise them
if i remember right after she explained what happened they said they should have just sent the kid to a time out.

fuckheads
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Hmm. I'm not very sure, but I think every kid is taught in a different way. There are some kids that will learn this way, and there are some kids that don't. Therefore, I believe that corporal punishment is correct - in specific cases. However, there are many times when a child will not learn from this punishment. They refuse to improve. If hitting them doesn't work, try a different method.

Even so, I think that drawing a line between punishment and violence is important. If taken too far, your punishment might just end up as pure cruelness and not teach your child anything.

Well, I don't really know. I'm still a kid, I'm probably not gonna have children until ten years later. But this is my opinion, from a kid's point of view. Would an adult agree?


I stopped reading responses here, 'cause this response pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly. Came earlier than expected, wow, heh.

So yeah, I'll have to agree that this kind of punishment is necessary to a certain extent and to certain individuals... Hell, I hit my mom once. She hit me back. My respect for her couldn't be greater ever since then. You know what? I deserved it, I learned from it. Some kids are like that, but if you're not gonna slap 'em across the butt for crossing that line they shouldn't cross, then what? Words aren't always as effective in the learning process as we want them to be.

Physical abuse has nothing on verbal abuse anyway. You rather have parents screaming profanities or calling their kids names instead of hitting 'em? I assure you the mental damage from the verbal abuse will do much more long lasting damage than a slap across the face every now and then. And I'll repeat:


7nmelz:
Even so, I think that drawing a line between punishment and violence is important.

This sentence here is key.
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lol Lets see when i say i do not agree with corporal punishment and there are better ways... i do not mean by cerbally abusing them.

Spanking argument #1 - “Spanking is an effective way to manage behavior”

Hitting a small child will usually stop misbehavior temporarily. However, other ways of discipline such as verbal correction, reasoning, and time-out work as well and do not have the potential for harm that hitting does. Hitting children may actually increase misbehavior. One large study showed that the more parents spanked children for antisocial behavior, the more the antisocial behavior increased (Straus, Sugarman, & Giles-Sims, 1997). The more children are hit, the more likely they are to hit others including peers and siblings and, as adults, they are more likely to hit their spouses (Straus and Gelles, 1990; Wolfe, 1987). Hitting children teaches them that it is acceptable to hit others who are smaller and weaker. “I'm going to hit you because you hit your sister” is a hypocrisy not lost on children.

Spanking argument #2 - “I got hit when I was a kid and I turned out OK”

Being spanked is an emotional event. Adults often remember with crystal clarity times they were paddled or spanked as children. Many adults look back on corporal punishment in childhood with great anger and sadness. Sometimes people say, “I was spanked as a child, and I deserved it”. It is hard for us to believe that people who loved us would intentionally hurt us. We feel the need to excuse that hurt. Studies show that even a few instances of being hit as children are associated with more depressive symptoms as adults (Strauss, 1994, Strassberg, Dodge, Pettit & Bates, 1994). A landmark meta-analysis of 88 corporal punishment research studies of over six decades showed that corporal punishment of children was associated with negative outcomes including increased delinquent and antisocial behavior, increased risk of child abuse and spousal abuse, increased risk of child aggression and adult aggression, decreased child mental health and decreased adult mental health (Gershoff, 2002). While most of us who were spanked “turned out OK”, it is likely that not being spanked would have helped us turn out to be healthier.

The arguments are taken in a website.
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depends..
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lol Lets see when i say i do not agree with corporal punishment and there are better ways... i do not mean by cerbally abusing them.

Spanking argument #1 - “Spanking is an effective way to manage behavior”

Hitting a small child will usually stop misbehavior temporarily. However, other ways of discipline such as verbal correction, reasoning, and time-out work as well and do not have the potential for harm that hitting does. Hitting children may actually increase misbehavior. One large study showed that the more parents spanked children for antisocial behavior, the more the antisocial behavior increased (Straus, Sugarman, & Giles-Sims, 1997). The more children are hit, the more likely they are to hit others including peers and siblings and, as adults, they are more likely to hit their spouses (Straus and Gelles, 1990; Wolfe, 1987). Hitting children teaches them that it is acceptable to hit others who are smaller and weaker. “I'm going to hit you because you hit your sister” is a hypocrisy not lost on children.

Spanking argument #2 - “I got hit when I was a kid and I turned out OK”

Being spanked is an emotional event. Adults often remember with crystal clarity times they were paddled or spanked as children. Many adults look back on corporal punishment in childhood with great anger and sadness. Sometimes people say, “I was spanked as a child, and I deserved it”. It is hard for us to believe that people who loved us would intentionally hurt us. We feel the need to excuse that hurt. Studies show that even a few instances of being hit as children are associated with more depressive symptoms as adults (Strauss, 1994, Strassberg, Dodge, Pettit & Bates, 1994). A landmark meta-analysis of 88 corporal punishment research studies of over six decades showed that corporal punishment of children was associated with negative outcomes including increased delinquent and antisocial behavior, increased risk of child abuse and spousal abuse, increased risk of child aggression and adult aggression, decreased child mental health and decreased adult mental health (Gershoff, 2002). While most of us who were spanked “turned out OK”, it is likely that not being spanked would have helped us turn out to be healthier.

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yes those things can happen if the parent takes it to far. as we have said there is a limit.
how about this you take care of a child for 2 weeks *iv had to do this* and you tell me whether they need to be hit on occasion or not
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coolalicialee wrote:

lol Lets see when i say i do not agree with corporal punishment and there are better ways... i do not mean by cerbally abusing them.

Spanking argument #1 - “Spanking is an effective way to manage behavior”

Hitting a small child will usually stop misbehavior temporarily. However, other ways of discipline such as verbal correction, reasoning, and time-out work as well and do not have the potential for harm that hitting does. Hitting children may actually increase misbehavior. One large study showed that the more parents spanked children for antisocial behavior, the more the antisocial behavior increased (Straus, Sugarman, & Giles-Sims, 1997). The more children are hit, the more likely they are to hit others including peers and siblings and, as adults, they are more likely to hit their spouses (Straus and Gelles, 1990; Wolfe, 1987). Hitting children teaches them that it is acceptable to hit others who are smaller and weaker. “I'm going to hit you because you hit your sister” is a hypocrisy not lost on children.

Spanking argument #2 - “I got hit when I was a kid and I turned out OK”

Being spanked is an emotional event. Adults often remember with crystal clarity times they were paddled or spanked as children. Many adults look back on corporal punishment in childhood with great anger and sadness. Sometimes people say, “I was spanked as a child, and I deserved it”. It is hard for us to believe that people who loved us would intentionally hurt us. We feel the need to excuse that hurt. Studies show that even a few instances of being hit as children are associated with more depressive symptoms as adults (Strauss, 1994, Strassberg, Dodge, Pettit & Bates, 1994). A landmark meta-analysis of 88 corporal punishment research studies of over six decades showed that corporal punishment of children was associated with negative outcomes including increased delinquent and antisocial behavior, increased risk of child abuse and spousal abuse, increased risk of child aggression and adult aggression, decreased child mental health and decreased adult mental health (Gershoff, 2002). While most of us who were spanked “turned out OK”, it is likely that not being spanked would have helped us turn out to be healthier.

The arguments are taken in a website.


yes those things can happen if the parent takes it to far. as we have said there is a limit.
how about this you take care of a child for 2 weeks *iv had to do this* and you tell me whether they need to be hit on occasion or not


lol i have two horrible bad mannered spoiled sisters.... which they can be changed not by hitting, but by reasoning and talking... and it is acctually harder to do that than to just hit and then all ok... But they are my step-sisters and my step-mom is retarded so yea... lol she dosent like me to have anything to do with them.... and that is also why they are so spoilt and all
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im not saying reason never works they have to understand why you are punishing them. i myself take care of my spoiled brat cousin a lot and he doesnt misbehave around me anymore. once he jumped on my aunt*not his mom* while she was sleeping just because he was bored in response i picked him up my the scruff of his neck and bodily threw him into his room. he doesnt do that anymore. after throwing him i explained then walked away. iv been forced to punish him for swear a few times too. my favorite is when he thought its ok to call me gay man that was fun hanging by the legs lol. he doesnt do that anymore
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lol What a naughty little boy... but still i find it a bit harsh to hit children and i just dont agree in hitting children... children like that have way of teaching... You can always talk to children...
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