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Posted 12/23/07

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NeS wrote:

read the book Night and if u have wat did u think about it?


yeps! im reading it rite now..... its pretty good so far!


I already read it. It was sad.
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dunno any... zzz
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When I was in Germany I went to see Dachau. Hell of an experience. I'd recommend anyone who travels to germany to visit at least one camp while there. It's an ugly part of history, but one worth seeing firsthand. It was fascinating reading all the history they had there about just how things lead up to it all. I can understand how it happened in the context of the times, and I think there is a lot we can learn from it and apply to the current events of today.

I find it astonishing that there is a large growing crowd of people who deny the holocaust even happened.



"1 person is a tragidy, a million is statistics"-stalin
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azrael910 wrote:

When I was in Germany I went to see Dachau. Hell of an experience. I'd recommend anyone who travels to germany to visit at least one camp while there. It's an ugly part of history, but one worth seeing firsthand. It was fascinating reading all the history they there about just how things lead up to it all. I can understand how it happened in the context of the times, and I think there is a lot we can learn from it and apply to it current events today.

I find it astonishing that there is a large growing crowd of people who deny the holocaust even happened.


yeah i know. my mom get's so pissed off when people deny the holocaust. like i remeaber one time, there was this one woman who survided the holocaust (cant remeaber her name) and she was talking about it, and they had this other dood on there and was all like, holocaust anit nothing but lies. and my mom was scaring me. she thought about going down to the new's staion and stabbing that man. i was scared. she was all like, how can people deny the holocaust when there are so many surviors? she scares me when it comes to the holocaust. o_0

and i wouldent mind going down to germany and seeing those camps eaither.


people don't like to face the fact that it is in their nature that they can do evil to the no extent. other words-fear, insecurity, denial or hatred. its reality n people need to face it. more importantly control it n work for the greater good.
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i was reading about The Holocaust one day, and i found a disturbing fact that is still leaving my mind like, AHH!!

I remember one set of twins in particular: Guido and Ina, aged about four. One day, Mengele took them away. When they returned, they were in a terrible state: they had been sewn together, back to back, like Siamese twins. Their wounds were infected and oozing pus. They screamed day and night. Then their parents — I remember the mother's name was Stella — managed to get some morphine and they killed the children in order to end their suffering.




you guys got any?





THAT IS SO TERRIBLE!
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music190 wrote:

i was reading about The Holocaust one day, and i found a disturbing fact that is still leaving my mind like, AHH!!

I remember one set of twins in particular: Guido and Ina, aged about four. One day, Mengele took them away. When they returned, they were in a terrible state: they had been sewn together, back to back, like Siamese twins. Their wounds were infected and oozing pus. They screamed day and night. Then their parents — I remember the mother's name was Stella — managed to get some morphine and they killed the children in order to end their suffering.




you guys got any?





THAT IS SO TERRIBLE!


they used to throw baby up in th are in use us gun and sniper targets
colonist in my country(within my short life time) used to wipe out intire block or intire villages even if they suspect anyone supposedly dangerious there. ofcouse rape or take the woman first before or after shooting the families


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828anime wrote:


music190 wrote:

i was reading about The Holocaust one day, and i found a disturbing fact that is still leaving my mind like, AHH!!

I remember one set of twins in particular: Guido and Ina, aged about four. One day, Mengele took them away. When they returned, they were in a terrible state: they had been sewn together, back to back, like Siamese twins. Their wounds were infected and oozing pus. They screamed day and night. Then their parents — I remember the mother's name was Stella — managed to get some morphine and they killed the children in order to end their suffering.




you guys got any?





THAT IS SO TERRIBLE!


they used to throw baby up in th are in use us gun and sniper targets


i know.
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Posted 12/24/07
Ehh i think people blow this whole "mass genocide" thing way out of proportion.

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Ehh i think people blow this whole "mass genocide" thing way out of proportion.

Trevor (OP)


trevor i donno ur background well but think about this-

-when u come from a place where ur life is anything but a maryland
-when u are born in a war that has being going for decades n toring the country apart.
-when u are born on the battle field few dozen miles away that has been bombarded with everythin from missiles to nerve gas around ur birth.
-when ur born in a place where one out of ten-20 children lives while others die either from the enemy, lost, hunger, disease, nature...
-when u come from a place where almost every family has lost many relatives even by blood. some in many. (i lost more than 4 in aunts n uncles alone).
-when see the face of a child deserves to live n enjoy life like anyother person but can't since.....
-when u kno that even close to u people are cleansing whole races n people from the face of the earth by MILLIONS(i'll give u good examples)from hatred n ignorance or even for the sake of power. n so many things since ur born............

........u tend to have a little quiet a view of the real world that real people live in by the hundreds of millions. oh, its really part of life by the way.

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omg for reals/??wtf thats doesn't sound right
Posted 12/24/07

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kyocool wrote:

Ehh i think people blow this whole "mass genocide" thing way out of proportion.

Trevor (OP)


trevor i donno ur background well but think about this-

-when u come from a place where ur life is anything but a maryland
-when u are born in a war that has being going for decades n toring the country apart.
-when u are born on the battle field few dozen miles away that has been bombarded with everythin from missiles to nerve gas around ur birth.
-when ur born in a place where one out of ten-20 children lives while others die either from the enemy, lost, hunger, disease, nature...
-when u come from a place where almost every family has lost many relatives even by blood. some in many. (i lost more than 4 in aunts n uncles alone).
-when see the face of a child deserves to live n enjoy life like anyother person but can't since.....
-when u kno that even close to u people are cleansing whole races n people from the face of the earth by MILLIONS(i'll give u good examples)from hatred n ignorance or even for the sake of power. n so many things since ur born............

........u tend to have a little quiet a view of the real world that real people live in by the hundreds of millions. oh, its really part of life by the way.



I understand all that i really do I'm very aware of the catastrophic effects of the Nazis and the Genocide in Darfur.....I'm just saying....I don't care. Does it affect where i live or my everyday life or any day in my life ever for that matter? No absolutely not.

I think everyone who isn't living in Darfur or deals with it directly should complain so much because in actuality....what are you going to do about it? Yea good for you you are a keyboard warior behind the screen speaking for all these people who can't but regardless....what are you going to do about it?

Just like with the Jews. Plenty of people thought it was wrong but no one did anything about it for the longest of time. Anyone can verbally speak out against something hanus but it takes something more than just words to correct it.

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Don't think too much about this and I think it will fade away as time passes~

That's exactly the worst thing you could possibly think. (Oh, and realize that I'm not directing this comment at you, but all people (and there are many) that harbor similar thoughts.) It's not as bad as denying the Holocaust outright, but hell, it's not much better. Do you know what the motto of the Holocaust is? "Never again."

If we all ignore the Holocaust and pretend that something so horrible never happened then how can we keep it from happening again? It is critical that the Holocaust is taught to new generations, to ignorant people of older generations. Maybe next time another group of people will be targeted and eliminated, maybe with new technology next time it'll be even worse and another million people will die. Our goal is for there not to be a next time, and your attitude is doing nothing to help.

Genocides like the Holocaust are taking place all over the world right now, entire groups of people are being wiped out for no damn reason, like in Darfur, and the reason this is happening at all is because people are ignoring it. Only after the Holocaust did people exclaim about how horrible it was, but it doesn't have to be this way with Darfur. Taking a passive stance on any genocide, acting as if we can merely let such horrible things pass away with time is not the answer at all! We can and must realize how horrible it is now, and do something with situations like Darfur. One teenager like myself can't make a difference, but if we all do, anything is possible.

If I seem as if I'm overreacting here, well, I probably am. And I'm not trying to start drama, but this is important to me. As a Jew myself and having some my great-grandparents murdered in the Holocaust, this is not a topic that my family can merely "not think about" and let pass away. I'm not asking for you to pity and feel sorry to me, but to realize that what happened was sick and horrible and to take initiative because next time, (if we let there be one), it can be anyone. No one is excluded from hate.



I completly agree with you, but unfortunatly history tends to repeat itself
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