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Posted 2/22/08 , edited 2/22/08
I'm not sure if any of you know this, but a new fansub group called the "Order of Zeronos" has uploaded episode 4 of Kiva onto CR (it's being approved and encoding now). Which means they'll have posted it before Tv-Nihon.

Why is this a bad thing? Here's an example of their work:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-267722/Drama-Trailers-Engine-Sentai-Go-onger-Trailer-3.html

This shall not stand. As Kiva fans- no, as fans of humanity we must stop this! What I need is brainstorming people! If these lowlifes do upload it befor Tv-Nihon, wee need to know a site where we can watch the Tv-Nihon version. Will it be out on Veoh? Youtube? Someplace else? We also need to know if there's someway to tell CR that subtitle to one show are not very good, and they need to be replaced by better subs. Subs by, oh let's say, Tv-Nihons?

Come on folks, gimme options!

P.S.: Yeah, I pretty much copy and pasted this from the topis I made in the Kiva group (except this part obviously). I figure if anybody should know, It's you guys.
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Posted 2/22/08
Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3
Posted 2/22/08

RoKuru wrote:

Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3


eehh??!!you saw it already??!!doko ni??!!hehe,is it right?
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Posted 2/22/08

AkaRed35 wrote:


RoKuru wrote:

Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3


eehh??!!you saw it already??!!doko ni??!!hehe,is it right?


What?
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Posted 2/22/08

RoKuru wrote:

Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3


Will they let us put two of the same show up?
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Posted 2/22/08
Hehe. After I watched the Engine Sentai Trailers that made by Order of Zeronos, they actually used Windows Movie Maker (WMM) to do the subs . I know they used WMM 'coz of the texts' qualities and the effects that were applied into that clip.

Is it good for other fansubber to join in the world of subbing but they need to know which texts' color and effects it's good for the clip or not if they used WMM to do the subs. I don't mind watch other fansubber's works as long as the text is readable and decent in qualities.
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Posted 2/22/08
this wouldnt be a problem if Tv-Nihon had a bigger staff. i love their work, i respect that theyve done so many series, but they have like 1 translator. thus it takes a week to sub their episodes. thats so ungodly long.
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Posted 2/22/08

MeGaMRedZ wrote:

Hehe. After I watched the Engine Sentai Trailers that made by Order of Zeronos, they actually used Windows Movie Maker (WMM) to do the subs . I know they used WMM 'coz of the texts' qualities and the effects that were applied into that clip.

Is it good for other fansubber to join in the world of subbing but they need to know which texts' color and effects it's good for the clip or not if they used WMM to do the subs. I don't mind watch other fansubber's works as long as the text is readable and decent in qualities.


I think there should be other fan subbers too. I just don't think they should steal TV-Nihon's shows unless they're better. (which they are not). Why can't they do one of the countless shows that no one else has done?
Posted 2/22/08

RoKuru wrote:


AkaRed35 wrote:


RoKuru wrote:

Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3


eehh??!!you saw it already??!!doko ni??!!hehe,is it right?


What?


you said you saw ep 5 already.but it doesn't come out till sunday...
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Posted 2/23/08
Yeah episode 5 hasn't aired yet =/. Other than that, you'll always be able to download Tv-Nihon episodes straight from the bittorrent tracker at tvnihon.com or if you wait and use the forums a direct download will eventually be posted by other users.
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Posted 2/23/08

AkaRed35 wrote:


RoKuru wrote:


AkaRed35 wrote:


RoKuru wrote:

Well the ones that are going to upload the TVN versions must put (Better Subtitles) on the description i guess

But still if they disapprove TVN's and keeps OZ's
can't you all watch at Veoh? The quality there is much better than crunchyroll

You could try Veoh,Dailymotion or NicoNico(highly doubt that they have english subbed ones)

Btw, Kiva episode 5 was nice :3


eehh??!!you saw it already??!!doko ni??!!hehe,is it right?


What?


you said you saw ep 5 already.but it doesn't come out till sunday...


It aired at 8.30 am just now O_o

anyway OZ's subs looks better than i thought :/ kthxbb
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Posted 2/23/08
hmm...i watched their subbing of Kiva ep 4...
i have to say that they improved...BUT
there is still quite a number of subtitles which are hard ro read...
and i also think their translation is not that good
HOWEVER...
i think we should give them a chance first...
then we take action...
link to the video:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-282252/Kamen-Rider-Kiva-Episode-4.html
i give it 3.8/5
TV-Nihon of course, OWNS!
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Posted 2/23/08
Well Order Of Zeronos (OOZ) subbing its quite nice, I like it but that doesn't mean I don't like TV-Nihon's works. Either way both of the fansubber are trying their best to give what the fan need; subtitles, especially OOZ for their debut. I don't mind it at all as long it's good and have subs (also with the right name for each character/place/etc, not like the 'other free fansubber' who put each of the character's/other thing's name (Really) wrong).
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Posted 2/23/08
i watched ep 4 subbed by OOZ adi..to be honest i dunno japanese,so i dunno wether thier subbed was right or not. but thier font kinda small..hehe...but seem every1 said thier subbed not bad..i guess should b ok
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Posted 2/23/08
they're improving. but i they need to do some homework on this. the opening lyrics should be change already. buy the cd pls. it's not 'baku baku beating heart' and also not 'kimi koso one and only'. get the cd and read the lyrics.
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