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WHO DOESNT WANT LICENCE IN ANIMES!!???
Posted 2/23/08

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noname01123 wrote:

poor authors and creators of these animes then... they would not earn much since their series were not licensed... how would they earn if their animes would not be licensed?


then why do we come to crunchyroll to see anime? if all animes are licensed,we might as well buy the CD and no one will join crunchyroll!


i guess the answer to that question is simple and the same with everyone else, we join and visit crunchyroll for free anime... so what if they would license animes, true that crunchyroll that offers free video streaming would be out of business but those guys in the animes industry are doing business... if they don't get paid for their works, what would they eat? true that they may enjoy their work and we appreciate them, but also understand that the animators of your favorite animes are humans... they need something like money for them to survive. if they would not be paid then we could expect that there are no or less animes nowadays. i have no problems in buying CD for animes, and so what if crunchyroll would be out of business? also, licensing animes helps them a lot for there are people who are fond of stealing other people's works. licensing is just the same as placing security over your assets, if you don't do something to protect them, someone will steal them... someone will take advantage of them and that's why licensing is important!
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Posted 2/23/08

noname01123 wrote:


Captain_Hitsugaya_Toushirou wrote:


noname01123 wrote:

poor authors and creators of these animes then... they would not earn much since their series were not licensed... how would they earn if their animes would not be licensed?


then why do we come to crunchyroll to see anime? if all animes are licensed,we might as well buy the CD and no one will join crunchyroll!


i guess the answer to that question is simple and the same with everyone else, we join and visit crunchyroll for free anime... so what if they would license animes, true that crunchyroll that offers free video streaming would be out of business but those guys in the animes industry are doing business... if they don't get paid for their works, what would they eat? true that they may enjoy their work and we appreciate them, but also understand that the animators of your favorite animes are humans... they need something like money for them to survive. if they would not be paid then we could expect that there are no or less animes nowadays. i have no problems in buying CD for animes, and so what if crunchyroll would be out of business? also, licensing animes helps them a lot for there are people who are fond of stealing other people's works. licensing is just the same as placing security over your assets, if you don't do something to protect them, someone will steal them... someone will take advantage of them and that's why licensing is important!


maybe yu're quite right....
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Posted 2/23/08
i whant licence`d anime . ! u make a lot of cash selling them
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Posted 2/23/08
Well. If you licensed the anime/manga, we would be very mad!
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Posted 2/23/08
that wont be fair for the animators u know they made the anime so they could get money and live it their job u know . . . .
Posted 2/23/08
O_O

talk about random...

but anyways, people don't make anime just for us to watch it for free. They have to make money off from us. If you really like the series, I suggest you people stop complaining and buy the DVD instead, that way you can support the anime the REAL way...not just watching it online and not giving in a penny
Posted 2/23/08

seraphimax wrote:

licensed stuff sucks almost all anime here in CR has/had been licensed and to be remove/removed! HELL! can't even watch a decent show like school rumble here


oh well, there's nothing we could do about it... i mean, those animators means business it is also their way of livelihood... anyways there are lots of ways in watching animes for free, they may be legal or illegal... i don't really find something wrong in buying CDs and DVDs since are also helping them in their business... if we don't have money to buy then save, i think it will not hurt if we would not see our favorite animes for a while. they won't get old(depending on the plot) or change, they will remain the same because they are just animes...
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Posted 2/23/08

noname01123 wrote:
oh well, there's nothing we could do about it... i mean, those animators means business it is also their way of livelihood... anyways there are lots of ways in watching animes for free, they may be legal or illegal... i don't really find something wrong in buying CDs and DVDs since are also helping them in their business... if we don't have money to buy then save, i think it will not hurt if we would not see our favorite animes for a while. they won't get old(depending on the plot) or change, they will remain the same because they are just animes...


well yeah, but still it's a shame that what you said is true... we'll just have to take the fact and reality so sadT_T
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Posted 2/23/08
all it does is slap a pricetag on it dbz was great till funamation made 90.00 for frieza saga box set and i still payed it now i have 2 get the dvds vhs is outdated now that's why i love this site who cares if it's subbed not i
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Ignorant fools these days. Thinking that anime is free in the same way of communism. Too bad for you that we live in a CAPITALISTIC world.

And you poor folks got owned by Anime News Network's Awnserman


I ask the questions what are the points that one should make in the age old anime argument sub vs dub i have always been on the side of dub while i can see many points are quite true and valid my stomach turns when people say "because i want the pure emotion and translations than that hack and butchered versions made by comapnies to take all the money from your pockets" which i am sure you know that covers alot of anime fans that go so far as to hate subtitles made by companies and they only go for fansub thinking they are better than all. i always make the case that these people are usualy in college studying japanese and no subtitles are purer than dub since its the same idea.

The people you're talking about arguing with are a new breed of "fan" (although I hesitate to call them that) out there right now, created mostly by the proliferation of anime via bittorrent. They make a number of wacky claims, like anime companies are all evil behemoths who exist solely to drain your wallet, that all commercial translations are incorrect, that dubs "butcher" the spirit of the original Japanese version and that anime is created under some bizarre bohemian ideal that it should be totally free and readily available to anyone who wants it. Their general attitude is that anyone trying to make a buck off of anime is an evil capitalist pig-dog who disrespect and mutilate their untouchable sacred artwork.

These people live in a fantasy world that does not exist outside the internet. Basically, what they're arguing is a fairly ridiculous set of ideals that justify the fact that they steal anime rather than pay for it. It's the ultimate excuse to not have to pay for anything; everything the companies do is wrong, anime should be free for everyone, fan translations are always better, etcetera. All of these "beliefs" point to one thing: not paying for anime. It's way past simply "dub versus sub", an argument that should have gone the way of the dinosaur when DVDs first started becoming popular, since 99 percent of DVDs released present the show in both languages. Those people claiming to understand the "pure emotion and feeling" of anime in Japanese probably don't even speak the language; if they're taking it in college, even a few semesters of Japanese isn't enough to really understand the full range of emotion since you're only going to be speaking at a 2nd or 3rd grade level, and even then, there's no guarantee your listening comprehension will be up to par. The whole "pure emotion and feeling" argument is just another excuse to not pay for anime.

The people who argue this way are, frankly, pretty despicable and hypocritical. They tout themselves as being the world's biggest anime fans, stalwart chosen protectors of the creator's original vision, and yet they are also the least likely to actually support the shows they claim to love so much by paying for the legit DVD release. They behave as though the ultimate show of affection and support for someone's art is to steal it, slap your lame fansub group name all over the title sequence (Like #ANIME-SOX PRESENTS CHRONO CRUSADE), use gaudy fonts and half-assed translations to subtitle the show and then give it to as many people as possible for free. This attitude makes absolutely ZERO sense and I await the day when some of these people start using even an ounce of common sense, climb down off whatever self-righteous pedestal they've built for themselves and maybe ditch the bullcrap communist nonsense they spew about how anime should be free for everyone.

Real anime fans support the shows they love by buying the legitimate DVD release. Period.


WOW! COOL! i do agree on the part that real anime fans buy the animes off their legitimate dvd release however, people love subs subs because of the tone, the emotion maybe the same for english and japanese however the tone is very very diffrent... and yes dvd contains both languges as well... but some fansubs provide the fanservice we can't get anywhere... for example definations of certain japanese words. and normally fansubs are easier to read... they uses diff color subs for diff characters which makes realising which anime character is speaking easy...
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Posted 2/23/08
man... i really think some1 should close down this thread... cos its common sense, come on... no one wanna pay for something u can get for free right? to shut up complaints like this... its either animes are ALL licenced or ALL UNLICENCED which is utterly impossible... no body would complain when animes are all licenced because nobody would know that they can get animes for free... thats y they are pretty much forced to pay... but weather u like it or not... whats done is done... either pay, or do it the illegal way to watch licenced anime, no ones stopping you. as for me... i would most probably do it the illegal way... since, im a cheap basterd who thinks that its not worth paying for something which i gain nothing out of >.< the only thing i gain is some cure off my boredom...which i already paid the electricity bills and the internet bills for it... haha!
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obviously, i hate
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Posted 2/23/08

destron wrote:

Ignorant fools these days. Thinking that anime is free in the same way of communism. Too bad for you that we live in a CAPITALISTIC world.

And you poor folks got owned by Anime News Network's Awnserman


I ask the questions what are the points that one should make in the age old anime argument sub vs dub i have always been on the side of dub while i can see many points are quite true and valid my stomach turns when people say "because i want the pure emotion and translations than that hack and butchered versions made by comapnies to take all the money from your pockets" which i am sure you know that covers alot of anime fans that go so far as to hate subtitles made by companies and they only go for fansub thinking they are better than all. i always make the case that these people are usualy in college studying japanese and no subtitles are purer than dub since its the same idea.

The people you're talking about arguing with are a new breed of "fan" (although I hesitate to call them that) out there right now, created mostly by the proliferation of anime via bittorrent. They make a number of wacky claims, like anime companies are all evil behemoths who exist solely to drain your wallet, that all commercial translations are incorrect, that dubs "butcher" the spirit of the original Japanese version and that anime is created under some bizarre bohemian ideal that it should be totally free and readily available to anyone who wants it. Their general attitude is that anyone trying to make a buck off of anime is an evil capitalist pig-dog who disrespect and mutilate their untouchable sacred artwork.

These people live in a fantasy world that does not exist outside the internet. Basically, what they're arguing is a fairly ridiculous set of ideals that justify the fact that they steal anime rather than pay for it. It's the ultimate excuse to not have to pay for anything; everything the companies do is wrong, anime should be free for everyone, fan translations are always better, etcetera. All of these "beliefs" point to one thing: not paying for anime. It's way past simply "dub versus sub", an argument that should have gone the way of the dinosaur when DVDs first started becoming popular, since 99 percent of DVDs released present the show in both languages. Those people claiming to understand the "pure emotion and feeling" of anime in Japanese probably don't even speak the language; if they're taking it in college, even a few semesters of Japanese isn't enough to really understand the full range of emotion since you're only going to be speaking at a 2nd or 3rd grade level, and even then, there's no guarantee your listening comprehension will be up to par. The whole "pure emotion and feeling" argument is just another excuse to not pay for anime.

The people who argue this way are, frankly, pretty despicable and hypocritical. They tout themselves as being the world's biggest anime fans, stalwart chosen protectors of the creator's original vision, and yet they are also the least likely to actually support the shows they claim to love so much by paying for the legit DVD release. They behave as though the ultimate show of affection and support for someone's art is to steal it, slap your lame fansub group name all over the title sequence (Like #ANIME-SOX PRESENTS CHRONO CRUSADE), use gaudy fonts and half-assed translations to subtitle the show and then give it to as many people as possible for free. This attitude makes absolutely ZERO sense and I await the day when some of these people start using even an ounce of common sense, climb down off whatever self-righteous pedestal they've built for themselves and maybe ditch the bullcrap communist nonsense they spew about how anime should be free for everyone.

Real anime fans support the shows they love by buying the legitimate DVD release. Period.



maybe those people live in north korea? communism country lol

but seriously without license i dont think those artist have enough money to sponser themself, if no money then lesser anime and all those left is crap ass anime that richs kids use money to get them on market. licensing is better than totally none right?i couldsay that licensing is the best thing in the anime world.if you want license anime then dont be lazy can search for them, its not that hard =.=
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Posted 2/23/08
You can still download anime even though they're licensed, plus streaming sucks. So you children can just shut up and live on with life, people need to get paid. You guys don't know shit about licensing and you're making yourselves sound like complete idiots... which you guys are complete idiots, if you're making yourself look like one.
Posted 2/23/08

Anime_Female wrote:

Well. If you licensed the anime/manga, we would be very mad!


i think you could still watch some fansubs since they are completely free. comparing to the americans the japs are not really that strict. if anime was produced in america, we could expect for the worse since every anime that would be produced there would be licensed. thus, streaming or downloading animes would be illegal... oh well that's the US. i haven't seen much of their shows being streamed in the net either, or websites offering free US shows online.

BTW people, don't get too down, you can still watch fansubs for free...
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