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SINCE THE FORUM DOESN"T ALLOW MULTIPLE SPACES, I WILL NEED TO THINK OF ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE TABLES. PLEASE BEAR WITH THE SUCKY STUFF BELOW.

Okay students, our first Japanese lesson will start now! :D

I hope most of you are seriously intrested in learning languages. Let me say this about language:

YOU CAN NOT LEARN A LANGUAGE WITHOUT LEARNING!

Yes, It is true. Learning a language can be much fun, but you have to spend time on it, just like in school. Of course, you can use this lessons as a reference, I don't care. But I will try to drill the basics of japanese into the serious students.

So, enough said about general things, lets go over to the Japanese!
For this, I would like to emphasize the importance of:

1. Proununciation
2. Katakana / Hiragana

1. The japanese pronounce things differently than English, American, whatever people. Firstly, the consonant sounds are softer. But more important: Vowels are pronounced completely different than you might think!

a - like in 'father'
e - like in 'get'
i - like in 'macaroni'
o - like in 'soft'
u - like in 'flu'

Also, you have the longer vowels, they sound 2 times as long, and slightly different. Watch/Listen carefully to japanese media, and find it out yourself. (also the consonants)

2. I personally think it is really important, if you want to start learning japanese seriously, to AT LEAST know the HIRAGANA symbols by heart. Katakana is also important, because some words will mean something different in katakana then in hiragana. Kanji is another story. It is important at a later stadium, but that is not important right now.

So what is Hiragana/Katakana? Some of you might ask. Hiragana/Katakana is the basic japanese writing system, where the symbols represent sounds.

Here is a chart of all the hiragana/katakana symbols. Take a few weeks to learn it, if you want. At least the Hiragana. I won't test you on this, but you will get lots of +'s if you do so!

For these lessons, I will write in Roman letters (Romaji), the Kana's, and with Kanji inserted, so you hopefully will be able to recognise the sentences later.
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GREETINGS romaji kana kanji

Hello Konnichiwa こんにちは 今日は
Goodbye Sayounara さようなら
Good night Oyasumi( nasai) おやすみ(なさい) お休みなさい
Good evening Konbanwa こんばんは 今晩は
Good morning Ohayou( gozaimasu) おはよう(ございます)
bye, see ya Mata ne またね
see you tom. Mata ashita またあした また明日
hello (phone) Moshi moshi もしもし

I'm home Tadaima ただいま
Welcome home Okaeri おかえり  お帰り
I'm off! Ittekimasu いってきます
Welcome Irasshaimase いらっしいませ
Long time no see Hisashiburi ひさしぶり  久しぶり

YES AND NO

Yes hai - はい
Yes (informa) un - うん
No iie - いいえ
No (informal) uun - ううん


Please know these. A lot of you will already know them though.
And Ask questions, sentences you want to know, etc.!
I will update later on.


~ イェルマー先生
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this is so cool... about the Hiragana/ katakana..... i think they should start learning the most basic between KAnji, Katakana, Hiragana.... (wc is hiragana)

can i contribute something then?

HIRAGANA Chart

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this could be helpful
just try not to mix them up
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To all those who can't read the japanese characters: 1. try installing a japanese font, just google it. 2. install the japanese language pack on your windows cd, ask your smart brother to do so. 3. set the encoding of letters to UNICODE-UTF8. I can't really explain how to do it all, but try to ask around. At least you can see the romaji ^_^

edit: maybe this will help http://www.docoja.com:8080/mvnforum/mvnforum/viewthread?thread=70
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interesting......
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i cant write in kanji, hiragana or katakana (Edit: using the computer) ...... i give up (edit: idnk how to download it)... my head hurts
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im not in this class but i got a question: do u mind if i pop in every now and then to see wut ur learning? cuz im already in 3 classes, but i can learn soemthing for real here. btw, looks good so far, lots of student contribution =D
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Im not a student.. but do you mind if i also just pop on anywhere on this class? like joe_003, i already chose 3 very interesting classes.. but this is also interesting, okay... i'll just place sentences or words... it might help...


*aishiteru - I love you
*daisuki - I like you
*ogenki desuka - are you okay?
*itai - it hurts
*kirai - i hate you
*kirei - beautiful
*daisuki nai - I hate you
*kakoii - Cool
*anata soko ni imasuka - Are you there?
*kawaii - cute

Tell me if you want some more... My friend lend me her dictionary on japanese...
Ofcourse, I did not join the bad terms like *baka *aho *boke... hehehe..
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i think its really important if they first learn the grammar... it is however fundamental when learning a language... or else it will be useless
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emm0548 wrote:

i think its really important if they first learn the grammar... it is however fundamental when learning a language... or else it will be useless



Yes,Senpai! I have a japanese lesson book in here! Do you want me to type it in here?

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Arcobaleno wrote:


emm0548 wrote:

i think its really important if they first learn the grammar... it is however fundamental when learning a language... or else it will be useless



Yes,Senpai! I have a japanese lesson book in here! Do you want me to type it in here?



lol.... the whole book???lol......
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lol.... the whole book???lol......



Nope Only the lesson 1...
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Arcobaleno wrote:


emm0548 wrote:

lol.... the whole book???lol......



Nope Only the lesson 1...


oh ok then.....
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Lesson One - Substitution Table No. 1

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Kore Wa......................Hon des'
Sore Wa......................empits' des' ka?
Are Wa........................kami dewa arimasen

Left Sequence
1.Kore wa hon des'. ------------------------ This is a Book
2.Sore wa hon desu'.----------------------- That is a Book
3.Are wa Hon desu'. ---------------------- That Over there is a book.
4.Kore wa empits' des'ka?--------------- Is this a pencil?
5.Sore wa Empits' des'ka?-------------- Is that a pencil?
6.Are wa empits' des' ka?--------------- Is that over there a pencil?
7.Kore wa kami dewa arimasen------- This is not a paper.
8.Sore wa Kami dewa Arimasen------ That is not a paper.
9.Are wa kami dewa arimasen--------- That over there is not a paper.


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The above is a simple substitution table consisting two parts. By combining a line from each part we get nine different combinations,all which are good Japanese sentences.


How to Study

1.Read the Japanese sentences in the above order comparing them with their English translation.
2.Read the Japanese sentences without looking at the translation and see if you know the meaning.
3.Read the Sentences in irregular order,jumping and skipping backwards and forwards until you can read the sentences with understanding.
4.Look at the translation and try to recall a corresponding Japanese sentence.

Pronounciation



Short Vowels

There are five vowels in Japanese. Each Vowel may be long or short. In this lesson we shall take up short vowels only.
a The first vowel of eye (ai) or out (aut); it resembles the a in father or far,but is much shorter.
i Approximately equivalent to i of machine; but is much shorter.
uThere is nothing like this in english. Do not believe such a statement as the Japanese u sound being the same as u in put,full, etc. The essential difference between the Japanese u and English u lies in the shape of the mouth. The Japanese u is articulated with unrounded lips where as the English u is pronounced with rounded lips.
e For practical purposes this is the same as e in get, pen,etc.
oPractically the same as o in oil,coin,etc. Aw in saw,paw,etc., if short,will answer the purpose.

Consonants

The consonants are pronounced about the same as in English with the exception of a few. Among the English alphabet, l,q,v, and x are not used.
n The final n is pronounced hakf-way between the English n and ng.


Vocabulary
Kore ----------------------------------------------> this
sore ----------------------------------------------> that (something which is close to the 2nd person)
are-------------------------------------------------> that over there
wa-------------------------------------------------> a particl or postposition which shows that the word or words preceding it is usually in the nominative case
hon------------------------------------------------> a book
empits'(empitsu)-----------------------------> a pencil (the final u is not pronounced in ordinary speech)
kami----------------------------------------------> paper
des'(desu)--------------------------------------> is,are,etc. (the final u is usually mute)
ka-------------------------------------------------> a particle which denotes interrogation or doubt
dewa arimasen-------------------------------> is not,are not,etc. ; the negative form of desu



Grammar and Construction

In Japanese the construction (A is is expressed by A (noun or pronoun) wa B(noun or pronoun)desu.
A question is usually expressed with this particle ka at the end of a sentence. Thus, (Is A B?) is A wa B desu ka?
The negative Form,(A is not B) is expressed by construction
A wa B dewa Arimasen.
Dewa in rapid, familiar speech usually becomes jaa orja.
The answer to this question is
Hai,A wa B desu.
or Iie,A wa B dewa arimasen.But a short answer is
Hai so desu.(Yes it is so.)
orIie,so dewa arimasen(No it is not so)


More Words

tsukue --------------------------------->a desk
isu--------------------------------------->a chair
pen-------------------------------------->a pen
inki-------------------------------------->ink
jibiki------------------------------------>a dictionary

Exercise 1

Express in Japanese the following.

1. Is this a desk? 2. That is not a pencil. 3. Is that over there a pen? 4. This is not ink. 5. That is a dictionary. 6. Is that a paper? 7. That over there is not a chair. 8. This is a pencil. 9. That over there is a desk. 10 That over there is not a dictionary.

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It was hard.... My back hurts.... I might have some errors... P-please... tell me.. so I could edit it....
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wow....thats a lot of typing...
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