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Are you in for Naturally Aspirated or Forced Induction?
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Posted 2/29/08

victemmanuel wrote:

turbos lose boost power during acceleration in lower rpm a terrible weakness in circuit races, thus anti-lag or misfiring systems were made to compensate for this "weakness"
(anti-lag/misfiring systems are more popular in rally cars (try listening to rally cars in the WRC) than on street cars; because they damage then later destroy the engine's exhaust system)


There are more turbo cars in circuit races than supercharged cars. Turbos do not lose boost during acceleration in lower rpms it builds boost. Full boost depends upon the turbo size an displacement of the motor, most of which will can fully spool(25-30psi)between 3000-4500rpm. No circuit car ever drives below those rpms so they constantly have have their power.
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victemmanuel wrote:

Now on my choice I'd chose FI (forced induction) via a supercharger for a continious boost... and fuel economy... turbos suddenly lose boost power in lower rpm's unlike superchargers which are powered by a pulley connected by a belt to the engine
which means:
higher rpm = stonger boost
low rpm = maintained boost
unlike turbos:
high rpm = boost
low rpm = no boost
turbos lose boost power during acceleration in lower rpm a terrible weakness in circuit races, thus anti-lag or misfiring systems were made to compensate for this "weakness"
(anti-lag/misfiring systems are more popular in rally cars (try listening to rally cars in the WRC) than on street cars; because they damage then later destroy the engine's exhaust system)



????turbos lose boost? how does that happen? low rpm = turbo gaining boost
honestly superchargers have no high end low rpm = maintained boost...lolol that sounds funny
and supercharge what car? lol and honestly idk how suddenly it would drop revs (thats what im assuming since you say you lose boost when your in lower rpms) dunno why you would be in such low rpm all you probably need is a t3/t4 which with a full exhaust upgrade (manifold,dumppipe-back to exhaust) should let the turbo breathe a bit and give you a tiny bit lower end (boosts a bit earlier)





lasthope05 wrote:


victemmanuel wrote:

turbos lose boost power during acceleration in lower rpm a terrible weakness in circuit races, thus anti-lag or misfiring systems were made to compensate for this "weakness"
(anti-lag/misfiring systems are more popular in rally cars (try listening to rally cars in the WRC) than on street cars; because they damage then later destroy the engine's exhaust system)


There are more turbo cars in circuit races than supercharged cars. Turbos do not lose boost during acceleration in lower rpms it builds boost. Full boost depends upon the turbo size an displacement of the motor, most of which will can fully spool(25-30psi)between 3000-4500rpm. No circuit car ever drives below those rpms so they constantly have have their power.



wordddd at 12 psi(i know its small i cant run big psi like evos or sti's) i ran a 371 hp and 335 lb of torque at around 4200
imo my car doesnt lag as much, my gt30rs feels like its got no lag, well it starts kicking in pretty early id say around 2.5? hold on let me go drive it real quick down the street lol

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For serious, it should be easy to figure out what he means. N/A is a common term people use for non-turboed/supercharged cars. If N/A is one option, the only other option is when a car IS turboed/supercharged.

My car is N/A, btw.
150 raw horsepower. Mwahahahaha!
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arent the turbines of a turbo get power from somewhere before the muffler?
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Oh people again I'm so sorry probably because of our location again in the little country called the Philippines (my bloved country lol ) rarely do you see a turbo charged car but it comon in trucks hehehe and utility vehicles lol... plus traffic here is terrible so more drivers opt for gas economy hehehe... newey tnx yangs and lasthope I'll keep that in mind for turbo are satisfied with at least 3000 rpms tnx appreciate it... I guess I need to practice on the heel and toe thingie for the brakes and gas... any tips for that guys?
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But guys honestly I can drift on other people's car but I cannot possibly do it on my ride... Why because its a 98 Daihatsu Hijet more of a micro mini van LOL try looking it up in the net wahaha...
Posted 3/1/08

ultimasephirothx wrote:

For serious, it should be easy to figure out what he means. N/A is a common term people use for non-turboed/supercharged cars. If N/A is one option, the only other option is when a car IS turboed/supercharged.

My car is N/A, btw.
150 raw horsepower. Mwahahahaha!


mine too, 98 hp 53 ft-lb torque
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yea once u drive a turbo'd car...u cant go back. (at least in my case...)


F-I all the way!!


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omg ppl some of these ppl should do some research on what im trying to get at. What is FI and N/A??? If so what in the hell is AWD or FF or FR or ABS??? Well it is a simple car terminology in the car culture. dang it.
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Dusterbayala wrote:

shouldn't this be in the car section?


But naturally aspirated is better on the engine, you have forced induction and you put a lot of strain on the interior working parts of the engine.


Uhh this is the car section. Can u read???
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AzYn_RiC3r wrote:


Dusterbayala wrote:

shouldn't this be in the car section?


But naturally aspirated is better on the engine, you have forced induction and you put a lot of strain on the interior working parts of the engine.


Uhh this is the car section. Can u read???


I shouldn't dignify your inCREDIBLE stupidity with a response... but let me ENLIGHTEN you... When that post was made, the thread was in the GENERAL section..
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it depends on the engine. id say n/a for v8s and bigger. and for v6, i6, or i4 id go with forced induction
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...my turbo is at full boost around 2600 rpm....and pulls till about 6k (redline at 7400) ^_^

i want bigger tho...but not intil i get an AWD
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TurboATM wrote:

...my turbo is at full boost around 2600 rpm....and pulls till about 6k (redline at 7400) ^_^

i want bigger tho...but not intil i get an AWD


^isn't your Eagle Talon already AWD???......
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TurboATM wrote:

...my turbo is at full boost around 2600 rpm....and pulls till about 6k (redline at 7400) ^_^

i want bigger tho...but not intil i get an AWD


I know what that turbo is.....haha ..6k power drop off. Sounds like you have a case of the 14b blues...

The bigger turbo you go in a fwd the better. The lag will help your launches. I wouldnt go smaller than a 50 trim in a fwd.
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