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Posted 3/20/08
what both of you say makes sense and all its just that after watching Fate/Stay Night and seeing how Shirou acted throughout the show it's hard to believe that he wouldn't go out of his way to let Saber know who he was because lets face it, if I was seperated from the one person I would die for for a long time and we saw each other again I would immediatly try my best to spend as much time as possible with her before I would have to leave again, even if it would effect how everything would happen I would definitly have a hard time keeping back my true feelings. Yes I know that this is me I'm taking about and not Shirou but I'm sure that pretty much any guy would do the same thing if they were placed in Shirous position.
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About the feelings and stuff....

Archer never got close enough to anyone (except Ilya) that he would create an "woman of his life" feelings towards anyone. Eventually, there was a ten years of time gap between the events and if a person has a tragic life then he could forget the woman of he would die for.
When Ilya died Archer mourned over her death for long but there was never said that Saber or rin was close to him.


Also Even though He doesn't show it, He cares for the people that were close to him. He doesn't let his emotions show because that might give off his true identity


He's like a hard boiled egg. Even if you try everything you can't get him back the way he was. So what I mean is that he lost all his "love-love" or even friendship feelings towards the people he knew from Fuyuki.
(Or partly lost. Not totally.)
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he died early?
hmmm...
during the archer vs berserker fight... archer said to ilya that "she is still as merciless as ever" meaning that he knows ilya...
but the thing that kirei said bothers me....
"that you can only summon heroic heroes from past to present"

if only type-moon is here to explain things hehehe
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Archer (shiro) Is considered a hero of the present since he became the hero of justice during his life time
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He's like a hard boiled egg. Even if you try everything you can't get him back the way he was. So what I mean is that he lost all his "love-love" or even friendship feelings towards the people he knew from Fuyuki.
(Or partly lost. Not totally.)



Probably not totally since he's still Shiro
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It is also said that you can summon heroes from any time. As long as they are heroes in their lifes or after their lives.


he's still Shiro


Yes, he is. But his life was different. His love was mostly towards Ilya and only in brother-sister level.
He never got to know to Saber like in UBW and he was rejected by Rin. So there isn't much to love afterwards.

(Don't want to post again so I'll edit this.)
V It always ends to "probably"... Archer is pretty unpredictable and hard to read, eh?
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Posted 3/24/08
Probably. But in UBW he cares about them
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Posted 3/26/08
The anime actually gave many clues that they are indeed the same person.
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ryuuk3n wrote:

The anime actually gave many clues that they are indeed the same person.


really on what episodes???
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ryuuk3n wrote:

The anime actually gave many clues that they are indeed the same person.


really on what episodes???


Not really on any episodes, but more like the way they react to each other and how their powers are very similar (because they're the same).
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Posted 3/28/08

ryuuk3n wrote:


carloglenn wrote:


ryuuk3n wrote:

The anime actually gave many clues that they are indeed the same person.


really on what episodes???


Not really on any episodes, but more like the way they react to each other and how their powers are very similar (because they're the same).



Well I think there was one episode-the one when archer made tea for Rin.Shiro could also make tea like that in the series,and no other servant could.
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Posted 3/28/08

ryuuk3n wrote:


carloglenn wrote:


ryuuk3n wrote:

The anime actually gave many clues that they are indeed the same person.


really on what episodes???


Not really on any episodes, but more like the way they react to each other and how their powers are very similar (because they're the same).


well i guess what you said is true but for those people who haven't had the game and only watch the anime don't you think archer acts like a person who gave shirou some hints on tracing? and for them its kinda confussing
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RazorBlade24 wrote:
Well I think there was one episode-the one when archer made tea for Rin.Shiro could also make tea like that in the series,and no other servant could.



He also said "Long time no see" to Ilya when he started to fight Berserker and Ilya had no idea what he was talking about.

V I can't really remember the whole schene since my pal told me that.
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RazorBlade24 wrote:
Well I think there was one episode-the one when archer made tea for Rin.Shiro could also make tea like that in the series,and no other servant could.



He also said "Long time no see" to Ilya when he started to fight Berserker and Ilya had no idea what he was talking about.


i guess it's more like "still pitiless i see Ilya" and Ilya was confused if he knew her
Posted 4/1/08
and he was never planning to kill Shirou even though he said he would or whatsoever cause he'll end up killing himself
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