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Can we learn by studying?
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Posted 4/7/08

alius8angel wrote:


Sleepneeded127 wrote:

the only reason some one cant learn form studying is that they dont know how. simply reading something over and over will not help. you have to read it then ask questions about it and find them. also you need to do thing that make you recall the information in different ways. and the most important part of studying is SLEEP!!! yes sleep that is because when u sleep your brain organizes, and stores information.


totally agree with you..
i sleep during classes and still get high scores i always wonder why i pass lol


the night before if you study then get a full 7-8 hours sleep you will recall more then if you did not
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Posted 4/7/08
Except for the natural sciences and mathematics I didn't need any help the last years of school. The teacher basically slows you down. You can learn faster and more by self-studying if the subject is just about knowledge (natural sciences and mathematics requires understanding). School is about babysitting. If it was about just learning, students would be allowed to self-study. And you can read and learn without tutoring. Take history. What questions do you need to ask? What concepts do you need to grasp? All you need is to know facts. There is no formula or anything like that.
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studying won't make a difference to what you already know.. if you don't study, you can see what you really know.
not just about what some text says ><
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Posted 4/8/08
Studying may make us doubt what we "know", or reinforce it. Knowledge may not be a certain thing, i.e. being something concrete and undeniable, and even if it was some people would still doubt it, if they rather like to "know" something else. Hate to take up something religious (unlike so many others). But take death: bioloigically speaking when you're dead, you're dead, you are nothing, you have ceased to be. Still there are theories of an afterlife and reincarnation. On the other hand there is no real reason to accept death as eternal, if you base it on that what we have not observed, is not necessarily non-esxisting.
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Good to see an education thread. And as such I will not spend this post dealing with how half the posts in this thread should be deleted (I will merely mention it <_<).

You take a section from an essay (please provide the title), and ask some more general questions about it. I'd prefer to see the context in which this piece falls before commenting, and I'm not familiar with Gasset. A bit of a misleading title perhaps, but lets go with this idea that studying/education needs drastic reformation.

I am familiar enough with Dewey however, and I think this bit from Gasset can be seen as parallel to parts of Dewey's thoughts on education. An important point for Dewey is the distinction between knowledge and understanding. It is understanding which is the higher aim of education, not mere assimilation of information. Down the second path is little more than conformity and stagnation, not progress.

From Dewey's essay "The Challenge of Democracy to Education":

Again in this matter of the isolation of school material from life versus that connection with it which would give the kind of understanding of social forces that alone will prepare students to understanding of social forces that alone will prepare students to take an intelligent part in the maintenance and growing development of democracy, I ask: "How far is science taught in relation to its social consequences, actual and possible, if the resources which science puts at human disposal were utilized for general democratic social welfare?" I know that very grate improvements are being made, but I am afraid that science is still taught very largely as a separate and isolated subject and that there are sill those, including many scientists themselves, who would think that that wonderful thing "pure" science would be contaminated if it were brought into connection with social practice. And yet without this connection, students are certainly getting very little intelligent understanding of the forces that are now making human society and that might remake it.


And,

"the education of the average scientist and average technician, on the other hand, is such that he is left indifferent to the social consequences of his own activities."

"Unless our schools take science in its relation to the understanding of those forces which are now shaping society and, still more, how the resources of the organized intelligence that is science might be used in organized social action, the outlook for democracy in insecure."


Thus, "The alternative is the kind of education that connects the materials and methods by which knowledge is acquired with a sense of how things are done and of how they might be done." "Things must be taught in connection with things that are done, that need to be done, and how to do them."

Also, it is true that people only feel a pressing need to learn certain things at certain times. If we could find a way to offer opportunities to students when they are able to appreciate and learn from them, instead of just
shuffling them all though the same system, we would do much better.

On the whole, "education must have a tendency, if it is education, to form attitudes." Attitudes which will "express themselves in intelligent social action."
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Posted 4/8/08
you won't just learn by simply studying
you also need to apply it
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Posted 4/19/08
yup..

STREET SMART..
you can learn from the people around u..
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Posted 4/20/08
Yes
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Posted 5/6/08
Obviously... you can.... that whats school for... aand the policy of education had proven to be working well
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Posted 5/7/08
why are we studying.. ofcourse to learn!
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Posted 5/16/08
it can really help
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Posted 5/16/08 , edited 5/16/08
no u can more learn when your sleeping.... zZzz
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Posted 5/17/08
yes we can learn through studying.. i don't think studying is just limited when memorizing stuffs... it involves all our senses..
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Posted 5/17/08
well i agree that the whole cramming thing doesn't really teach us science and stuff

i can only learn by experience or by actually being curious and wanting to

when I am forced to learn something that doesn't interest me.. I tend to memorize it until I am no longer required to know it (until after tests) and then I totally forget about it lol
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