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Harsh Interrogation Methods
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Posted 3/27/08 , edited 4/18/08
Tyrf: it's not the spanish inquisition. I am sure they don't ask "do you confess?". They probably as stuff like "where are the weapons stored". They can get an adress, and then go there and check. I am pretty certain they are looking for information, not confessions. What would the CIA need confessions for? Look at the letters: central INTELLIGENCE agency. Intelligence= information. They are not the police.

As for torture being banned in Europe:
in Norway we have drug testing in prison. They take a sample for your excrements. If you do not manage it while someone puts a bucket or something under you, you get locked in an empty cell. If you do not manage it here (there is apparently a glass wall where people can look at it, I doubt they normally do, still it must be embarassing and hardly private) within 3 days or something (!) it is considered a positive test and you get punished. It is not only unjust and embarassing and undignified, it may also be considered torture. Torture do not have to be planned. Torture is an organized act or acts that is to be considered painful be the recipient. To be this embarassing act would have been very painful, a total lack of respect. Also, we have military service which may be considered to be overboard sometimes. Like when you are trained to go days with minimal sleep.
Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
If the criminals are truly terrible & cause harm just because.....I think harsh methods are needed. For example: 911
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Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08

Sulla wrote:


Tyrfing wrote:

Torture is notoriously unreliable. People will admit to anything to make it stop. It's no good for getting information, it's just a sadistic way to scare people.

I'm just glad that it's illegal in Europe.


Its not. The British have tortured many sand niggers to keep Britain safe.


Liar.

Also what on earth is a "sand nigger"?
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Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
If they r positively and 100% sure they got the right guy or someone that knows something than yeah they should use this method or even harsher ones if it helps ....... who the fuck cares about ppl who withhold information that can save lives. But they shouldn't use it on ppl just because of suspicion.
Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
Oh no, those poor wanna-be suicide bombers getting mentally tortured. What if they start thinking life is horrible because of the torture?

Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
I don't support torture methods, especially stress positions. Considering they can deal long term psychological damage. It's somewhat annoying how people can condone and/or promote torture of "criminals", when they are people just like us. Some will argue that they will do similar or worse to us to get the same result, but I still dont think it makes it right. On the note of "criminals", we could all be logically considered criminals in some way as it is based on a society's values and there is probably one with a set of rules that would call us "criminals", so they aren't much different from us.
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Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
You gotta do what you gotta do. But anyway, hes not gonna be president for long now right? Sorry, I dont really keep up with the news.
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Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08

Tyrfing wrote:


Sulla wrote:


Tyrfing wrote:

Torture is notoriously unreliable. People will admit to anything to make it stop. It's no good for getting information, it's just a sadistic way to scare people.

I'm just glad that it's illegal in Europe.


Its not. The British have tortured many sand niggers to keep Britain safe.


Liar.

Also what on earth is a "sand nigger"?


Those Darka nd Olive skinned people who live in the desert it is also those people who have a turban. So that the East Indians are sometimes called Sand Niggers by Poor white Trash Americans or Wogs by the British.
But Arabs are the ones mainly called Sand Niggers.
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Posted 4/16/08 , edited 4/18/08
I see.

So next time, we have a conversation like this in Hollywood, yes?


"Say chaps, how about giving me a nice cup of tea?

"What? No way! You're a bloody prisoner! You're not allowed to have anything!"

"But it's a torture for me! You're torturing me!"

"Awww, ***k! Fine, have your god damned tea!"




So next time, when you want to find out more information of the future spots terrorist or enemies wanna bomb/attack, you give them a nice cup of tea? And what if they want more sugar?!

Humans will do anything to achieve what they want, for there's no such thing as human rights or moral. Survival is what runs us, and always will.
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Posted 4/17/08 , edited 4/18/08
Hmmm well as long as we are only doing it to people who are enemies of the country, then I say Bush is correct. Using standard, non-violent, interrogation methods won't work fast enough.
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Posted 4/17/08 , edited 4/18/08
If torturing 100 terrorists who intended to or actually did kill others is needed to save thousands or even millions of people, I'm for it.

-But sometimes innocent people are tortured instead.
-And sometimes innocent people are imprisoned or executed. That's the nature of imperfect human systems.

-But they're human and deserve rights too.
-Rights are not really rights. They have to be defended and preserved by a society to continue to exist. When someone infringes upon the rights of others--when he breaks the law--he sacrifices his own rights to some extent. Where "to some extent" might be the key phrase in other contexts, it's quite clear that one who kills others has abandoned his own "right" to live. I say this not because I find murder to be inherently wrong, but because it is detrimental to society, which, if you recall, is precisely what preserves the rights. We are part of a social contract whereby we serve society to a point and follow its rules in exchange for the benefits of social life, so I don't want to hear about absolute/inherent/natural "rights" that are independent of society itself.

-But they're not known terrorists--they're just suspects, and the standards for being considered a suspect are quite low.
-Here we finally have much room for criticism of the system, but I was only really replying in the first place to the above two issues.
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Posted 5/26/08
I don torture....
I simply... bite the person.... to death....
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Posted 10/28/08
ya they should ban it. there is a japanese(or chinese i don't no) torture method and its called the water torture. you lie down on something and then someone has to keep putting drops on your forehead(drip..drip..drip) they did it on i think the discovery channel and one lady went insane and said it was really annoying
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Posted 10/28/08
Even though they are terrorist, but please they are still human like us after all. You didnt want to feel how painful it is to get tortured severely. Humans must be treated fairly and not using force against them in exchange for intelligence. Killing huge number of people doent mean u need to avenge back those terrorist.
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