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Posted 10/24/12
Major props to my buddy deejayvee

The only respect we should show for someone that committed suicide, is how they lived there life until the end. Not that they decided to end it short. Its heartbreaking to everyone that cared. Nothing to sit in amazement over. Like "Wow, they endured that pain to die". No they felt so much pain inside, that the pain outside didn't matter. Real talk.
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Posted 10/25/12
I believe suicide is a part of natural selection. If you don't have the will, or mental strength to live then you shouldn't; plain and simple. Totally acceptable, I mean we are on Crunchyroll after all and I'm sure many people understand the Samurai's way of life and Kamikaze fighter pilots. Under certain circumstances it goes from something that is considered to be pitiful and sad as if someone threw their life away to something honorable and respected.

Die if you want to, it's your life whether it's right or wrong who's gonna care once you're gone.
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Posted 10/25/12
Yes, you're leaving everything behind. Yes, you're going to hurt a lot of people. And yes, the world will continue on as it was before you killed yourself. In the end, you still have a choice. Will you fight on? Will you let something kill you first? Or will you kill yourself before something kills you? You, and only you, decide how your life ends. Even if it is by committing suicide.
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Posted 10/26/12 , edited 10/26/12
It's the easy way out, but not as easy as people think it is. It really takes a certain level of guts to go through with since you'll be fighting against instinct.

Well, lets start. I was suicidal back in elementary and middle school, and I still have the thoughts that lead to the behavior today. I tried to, pathetically, drown myself what must have been nearly thirty times, and I was constantly beating myself up. So, I did that until I got the idea that it was impossible for me to kill myself. That just made me even more depressed. And, I'm still finding myself thinking of thoughts like "Maybe I should just disappear" or "I'm so worthless, that I don't deserve to live" to "I'm just a walking corpse." It's an eternal negative feedback loop of "worthless, unwanted, unneeded, useless" that runs through my head daily. And, the sad part is, people don't notice it. It flipped my teachers thoughts of me for a loop. They couldn't believe it. It feels like I'm stuck in my own personal, unnoticed hell.

What are my thoughts on the suicidal: I think we need more emotional openness and sensitivity. I think they need help and support. I think we shouldn't feel that we need to suffer in silence just to avoid involving others in our problems and that we should feel wanted and loved. I think I need a hug.

In fact, you are just silencing your expression of self and accomplishing nothing. Killing yourself wont fill the void. It devours you instead.
Posted 10/27/12
Some suiciders think that they can come back to life after they do themselves.
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Posted 10/28/12
Holding breath? hahaa

ohh life~ don't ends yet :))
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Posted 11/10/12
My last attempt was June/July. Saw a counsellor which was pretty enlightening.
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Posted 11/15/12
I tried it a couple of times. I was really giving up my life because I don't see the point in continuing if the person dearest to me passed away. I tried to cut myself vertically so that I will die for sure, but I couldn't. I was a coward. XD
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Posted 11/28/12 , edited 11/28/12
Suicide to me, is a selfish act in and of itself. It robs one of a tomorrow that is still possible (yes, I know that given you chose suicide as your next best option, you do not wish for another tomorrow but I still think you're a robber), and it may also hurt other people around those who've committed it.

I honestly don't think anyone would want to die. I think it's more because of the current situation being nowhere near tolerable for you to tolerate that you finally see suicide as the only option - an escape. Or that you can't reach anyone, yes you've tried but nothing seems to work - and make them understand what you're going through, again trying didn't work - and finally, left with no other options, you feel everything is too much to handle you just want to end it all.

I still think it's a selfish act, although of course nobody would ever want to subject themselves to this if they can help it. Maybe you're doing it wrong, or maybe you thought you've tried when you actually haven't - maybe not hard enough. In my opinion, those feelings are, most of the time, "in your head" - I don't mean that what you're going through is all an illusion, it's not because if they were you wouldn't be hurt. But I mean you CAN do something about how you think. I've been down this road, I've been depressed before, I've even mulled over attempting suicide, but you can do something about it - start with your "head" or the "way you think" or the "way you look at things".

The world is still gonna go on without you. Time never waits for anyone, even if your own time has stopped.
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Posted 11/28/12
Why do you people think that suicide is selfish?

If ANYONE is selfish when it comes to suicide, it is the people that do not want to see a person commit suicide.

Why would you ever assume that everybody's depression can be cured? It is rather disgusting how ignorant you people are about this topic.

So you are telling me that you basically have the mental capacity of a deity and know every single little detail about the lives of everyone who wants to die and are saying that every reason for them to commit suicide can be overcome by self-perseverance and optimistic thinking? Give me a break. You have no clue what the world is like for other people, so the best thing you can do is to just let them be and give them the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. If you do not agree, then you are simply a selfish and heartless person.

If you knew that there was no chance at accomplishing your goals, would you put any effort into accomplishing them? It is just wasted time and effort if you do, which is why suicide is a viable option for some lives.

So go ahead, try to convince people to not commit suicide. You are just making them suffer more while catering to the selfish desires of their friends, family, and society as a whole. It is bad enough that there aren't any legal and efficient suicide methods available to the public, but to thrust yourself upon these poor, innocent people with your blatant ignorance is the worst possible thing you could ever do.

I want to commit suicide because there is nothing for me here, on this planet, in this life. You can call me mentally ill all you want, have me talk to as many people as you want, have me take as many pills as you want, but it will NEVER change my thinking. I am the only one who has ever lived my life, so I am the only one who can properly determine what the future holds for me. Don't talk to me about my future, you don't know anything about me, so f--- off. You are just being selfish if you want me to live another second in the miserable life that I have.
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Posted 11/28/12

lordseth23 wrote:

Why do you people think that suicide is selfish?

If ANYONE is selfish when it comes to suicide, it is the people that do not want to see a person commit suicide.

Why would you ever assume that everybody's depression can be cured? It is rather disgusting how ignorant you people are about this topic.

So you are telling me that you basically have the mental capacity of a deity and know every single little detail about the lives of everyone who wants to die and are saying that every reason for them to commit suicide can be overcome by self-perseverance and optimistic thinking? Give me a break. You have no clue what the world is like for other people, so the best thing you can do is to just let them be and give them the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. If you do not agree, then you are simply a selfish and heartless person.

If you knew that there was no chance at accomplishing your goals, would you put any effort into accomplishing them? It is just wasted time and effort if you do, which is why suicide is a viable option for some lives.

So go ahead, try to convince people to not commit suicide. You are just making them suffer more while catering to the selfish desires of their friends, family, and society as a whole. It is bad enough that there aren't any legal and efficient suicide methods available to the public, but to thrust yourself upon these poor, innocent people with your blatant ignorance is the worst possible thing you could ever do.

I want to commit suicide because there is nothing for me here, on this planet, in this life. You can call me mentally ill all you want, have me talk to as many people as you want, have me take as many pills as you want, but it will NEVER change my thinking. I am the only one who has ever lived my life, so I am the only one who can properly determine what the future holds for me. Don't talk to me about my future, you don't know anything about me, so f--- off. You are just being selfish if you want me to live another second in the miserable life that I have.


Of course it's selfish. After all it's a personal choice that is all about you, your pain, your suffering, your world, your life, your rights, your future,what's best and easiest for you, regardless of what others might feel, want or think.

The fact that no one can see into the future and no one can truly predict what will happen or know exactly what goes on in someone else's life or even what influences them is probably why there isn't much support for suicide. Who wants to support or sponsor a final and irreversible solution to a problem they know nothing about?
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Posted 11/28/12
Suicide is the most selfish, immature, attention whore thing you can possibly do.
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Posted 11/29/12

nameherenow wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:

Why do you people think that suicide is selfish?

If ANYONE is selfish when it comes to suicide, it is the people that do not want to see a person commit suicide.

Why would you ever assume that everybody's depression can be cured? It is rather disgusting how ignorant you people are about this topic.

So you are telling me that you basically have the mental capacity of a deity and know every single little detail about the lives of everyone who wants to die and are saying that every reason for them to commit suicide can be overcome by self-perseverance and optimistic thinking? Give me a break. You have no clue what the world is like for other people, so the best thing you can do is to just let them be and give them the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. If you do not agree, then you are simply a selfish and heartless person.

If you knew that there was no chance at accomplishing your goals, would you put any effort into accomplishing them? It is just wasted time and effort if you do, which is why suicide is a viable option for some lives.

So go ahead, try to convince people to not commit suicide. You are just making them suffer more while catering to the selfish desires of their friends, family, and society as a whole. It is bad enough that there aren't any legal and efficient suicide methods available to the public, but to thrust yourself upon these poor, innocent people with your blatant ignorance is the worst possible thing you could ever do.

I want to commit suicide because there is nothing for me here, on this planet, in this life. You can call me mentally ill all you want, have me talk to as many people as you want, have me take as many pills as you want, but it will NEVER change my thinking. I am the only one who has ever lived my life, so I am the only one who can properly determine what the future holds for me. Don't talk to me about my future, you don't know anything about me, so f--- off. You are just being selfish if you want me to live another second in the miserable life that I have.


Of course it's selfish. After all it's a personal choice that is all about you, your pain, your suffering, your world, your life, your rights, your future,what's best and easiest for you, regardless of what others might feel, want or think.

The fact that no one can see into the future and no one can truly predict what will happen or know exactly what goes on in someone else's life or even what influences them is probably why there isn't much support for suicide. Who wants to support or sponsor a final and irreversible solution to a problem they know nothing about?


The selfishness of choosing what to do with one's own life pales in comparison to the selfishness of people who only want a person to live in order to benefit themselves. Therefore, it should not be considered selfish.

So you are telling me I have to suffer my entire life just because society doesn't want me to die? Interesting.

What is the difference between this and slavery?

Just because my future is not 100% certain does not mean you should be able to take away my freedom.
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Posted 11/29/12

JimmehFTW wrote:

Suicide is the most selfish, immature, attention whore thing you can possibly do.


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Posted 11/29/12

lordseth23 wrote:


nameherenow wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:

Why do you people think that suicide is selfish?

If ANYONE is selfish when it comes to suicide, it is the people that do not want to see a person commit suicide.

Why would you ever assume that everybody's depression can be cured? It is rather disgusting how ignorant you people are about this topic.

So you are telling me that you basically have the mental capacity of a deity and know every single little detail about the lives of everyone who wants to die and are saying that every reason for them to commit suicide can be overcome by self-perseverance and optimistic thinking? Give me a break. You have no clue what the world is like for other people, so the best thing you can do is to just let them be and give them the freedom to choose what they want to do with their lives. If you do not agree, then you are simply a selfish and heartless person.

If you knew that there was no chance at accomplishing your goals, would you put any effort into accomplishing them? It is just wasted time and effort if you do, which is why suicide is a viable option for some lives.

So go ahead, try to convince people to not commit suicide. You are just making them suffer more while catering to the selfish desires of their friends, family, and society as a whole. It is bad enough that there aren't any legal and efficient suicide methods available to the public, but to thrust yourself upon these poor, innocent people with your blatant ignorance is the worst possible thing you could ever do.

I want to commit suicide because there is nothing for me here, on this planet, in this life. You can call me mentally ill all you want, have me talk to as many people as you want, have me take as many pills as you want, but it will NEVER change my thinking. I am the only one who has ever lived my life, so I am the only one who can properly determine what the future holds for me. Don't talk to me about my future, you don't know anything about me, so f--- off. You are just being selfish if you want me to live another second in the miserable life that I have.


Of course it's selfish. After all it's a personal choice that is all about you, your pain, your suffering, your world, your life, your rights, your future,what's best and easiest for you, regardless of what others might feel, want or think.

The fact that no one can see into the future and no one can truly predict what will happen or know exactly what goes on in someone else's life or even what influences them is probably why there isn't much support for suicide. Who wants to support or sponsor a final and irreversible solution to a problem they know nothing about?


The selfishness of choosing what to do with one's own life pales in comparison to the selfishness of people who only want a person to live in order to benefit themselves. Therefore, it should not be considered selfish.

So you are telling me I have to suffer my entire life just because society doesn't want me to die? Interesting.

What is the difference between this and slavery?

Just because my future is not 100% certain does not mean you should be able to take away my freedom.


Whether one selfishness is worse than the other depends on which side you're looking at it from. How does it pale in comparison? Are you assuming that the choices you make about your life affects you only or does it not matter how it affects others? The focus shouldn't just be on one person and how they feel, ignoring the wider effect it has on other people and on society as a whole. Your choice to die, other people have to live with it and cope and there's an unfairness in that you don't have to face up to that or deal with the consequences of that.

Who is saying you have to suffer your entire life and what kind of gifted fortune teller must they be to be so certain that it is exactly what will happen merely as a result of you being alive? The opportunity for a life you're happy with, a life of freedom, without pain and suffering can only exist if you're alive first. Anyone who holds that kind of hope for you isn't then going to support a decision that takes that opportunity away.

I don't see how it compares to slavery at all. Would it have been alright then if someone had distributed suicide pills to all the slaves and said "if you want freedom you can die." After all you seem to suggest that living is in itself a form of slavery and death is the only path to freedom and therefore anyone who disagrees is a selfish supporter of slavery.

Death doesn't give, it takes. All those rights, freedom, choices you have now, that all ends when you die. People are never completely free but any freedom they may have, death will most certainly take away. So no I don't believe anyone is taking any freedom from you that death won't take away anyway.
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