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37 / F / Fort Meade, MD
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Posted 8/14/07 , edited 8/14/07
I was talking with someone who lives outside of the US, and we were trying to figure out how to define PG-13.

I looked up a bunch of information and really didn't find much.

http://www.mpaa.org/FlmRat_Ratings.asp

How would you DEFINE (i want absolutely NO PICTURES) PG - 13?

As Americans, we have and idea of what pg-13 is, but what is it exactly?
Give as many details as possible.

Does a picture on CR with the edge of a nipple count as PG - 13?

Does screaming profanities in a forum constitute PG - 13?

Where do we draw the line?
What IS and what ISN'T PG - 13?

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Posted 8/14/07
I think PG-13 is the difference between leaving the theater in smiles, glad there was a happy ending (PG) and leaving in tears because everyone was decapitated and buried in the backyard (R)

R is something that should leave you uncomfortable if your under the age of 18. Its the movie that makes you wonder if you should be closing your eyes or looking away. Its the scene that you wouldn't want to watch with your mom or baby sister.
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27 / M / The netherlands
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Posted 8/14/07
here in the netherslands you have the ratings 6+, 12+, 16+, 18+ and suited for all ages. movies with violence and nudity are not suited for the youngsters. we dont have that PG stuff but i mean if its not too extreme (nudity,violence) it wont harm the children. a picture showing a nipple aint a big deal i guess,but a picture showing the whole body of a woman naked is. here in the netherlands cussing and saying things like fck,sh*t and all is allowed on tv. i think thats better then a *bleep* each time.
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oh and why does it make any difference when a parent or guardian accompanies the kid while watching a R-rated movie. with the adult or without, the contents of the movie will still be the same :/. and if something is more forbidden and stuff,it motivates the kids more to watch it.

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30 / M / Japan
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Posted 8/14/07
I know that most PG systems were made for themes that children at that age group cannot probably understand on the level that it should be understood. This may lead to misinterpretations or gross misrepresentations.

For example... most cartoons are PG simply because they have slapstick situations. Many young children (usually less than 6 years of age) will interpret this as acceptable action. Don't blame me if your kid starts hitting you like he were Ren or Stimpy...

The same theme, however, doesn't affect an older child (e.g. 13 year old), because they have the capacity to understand that slapstick situations were made for shallow humor, and not because it is a norm that can and should be followed.

(Damn... this is starting to sound like Kholberg's theory... )

Regarding breast exposure, this is most definitely a PG 13 theme. In certain situations were the breast is exposed, children at this age interpret it as scandalous ~ as a sort of "unacceptable social act", if you will. Other manifestations are perversion (knowing that it breast exposure is a taboo act, but subscription to such gives them a "rush" because they feel they are viewing something that should not be seen). Therefore, a 13 year old may interpret an Art film where nudity is present in the wrong way (i.e. something scandalous, or reducing the film to a flesh fest) as would someone with a mature train of thought.

At least this is the theoretical framework of the whole ratings thing. In practice, however, it's difficult for parents to monitor their children, as the PG rating suggests.
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Posted 8/14/07

oh and why does it make any difference when a parent or guardian accompanies the kid while watching a R-rated movie. with the adult or without, the contents of the movie will still be the same :/. and if something is more forbidden and stuff,it motivates the kids more to watch it.

Because the parents will be there to hiss at their kids to close their eyes or cover their ears o course. Although I do think its pointless. If you have to cover your kid's eyes/ears then you shouldn't bring them with you in the first place.
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30 / M / Japan
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Posted 8/14/07
^ a smart parent would try to explain to their children what's going on, instead of sheltering them. The "covering your eyes" style may work for a 6 year old, but not a 13 year old. You're simply tempting them to know what it is you're hiding from them if you do something like that.
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Posted 8/14/07
^A smarter parent wouldn't bother to take their 13 year old to an R movie.
If they wanted to explain the birds and the bees they'd do it at home, you don't need the media to help educate your child...

and you can't exactly explain blood and gore.
"Now bobby, thats what it looks like when you get stabbed repeatedly"
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Posted 8/14/07

edsamac wrote:

^ a smart parent would try to explain to their children what's going on, instead of sheltering them. The "covering your eyes" style may work for a 6 year old, but not a 13 year old. You're simply tempting them to know what it is you're hiding from them if you do something like that.


I think you should balance the two. Children should be sheltered to a degree. None the less, keeping them entirely ignorant is not appropriate either. It’s been proven that children who develop…say, porn addictions in their early teenage years (13, prime example) that it has psychological effects. So parents should not just let their young children go around watching porn.

Then again, if the boy stumbles upon pornography while being entirely oblivious and ignorant, that has psychological effects to. He doesn’t understand the process going on, and ends up having the idea that women are tools for pleasure carved into his delicate and developing subconscious.

Balance is the key with parenting. That’s my philosophy, for whatever it’s worth.

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dandylion wrote:

^A smarter parent wouldn't bother to take their 13 year old to an R movie.
If they wanted to explain the birds and the bees they'd do it at home, you don't need the media to help educate your child...

and you can't exactly explain blood and gore.
"Now bobby, thats what it looks like when you get stabbed repeatedly"


Yeah, rated R movies are certainly not the proper tool to use to educate your children about sex. Movies in general are not the place.
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Posted 11/1/07
As someone who doesn't live in the US, I have no idea what PG-13 is and that always makes it hard to follow the whole "PG-13 rule" that's on loads of forums. I've always believed that PG-13 meant virtualy no nudity, unless it was something innocent and funny like a chibi character's butt or something and no swaering unless it's like "bloody hell" or "crap".
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Posted 6/16/08
PG-13 eh?...
well... the requirements of
them are a bit too detailed...
and hardest to rate in my opinion...

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27 / M / Bangalore,India
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Posted 6/16/08
PG-13 is safe on CR,crossing PG-13 gets u banned on CR.Simple as that!
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