China to regulate buddhist reincarnation....
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"In one of history's more absurd acts of totalitarianism, China has banned Buddhist monks in Tibet from reincarnating without government permission. According to a statement issued by the State Administration for Religious Affairs, the law, which goes into effect next month and strictly stipulates the procedures by which one is to reincarnate, is "an important move to institutionalize management of reincarnation." But beyond the irony lies China's true motive: to cut off the influence of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual and political leader, and to quell the region's Buddhist religious establishment more than 50 years after China invaded the small Himalayan country. By barring any Buddhist monk living outside China from seeking reincarnation, the law effectively gives Chinese authorities the power to choose the next Dalai Lama, whose soul, by tradition, is reborn as a new human to continue the work of relieving suffering.
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At 72, the Dalai Lama, who has lived in India since 1959, is beginning to plan his succession, saying that he refuses to be reborn in Tibet so long as it's under Chinese control. Assuming he's able to master the feat of controlling his rebirth, as Dalai Lamas supposedly have for the last 600 years, the situation is shaping up in which there could be two Dalai Lamas: one picked by the Chinese government, the other by Buddhist monks. "It will be a very hot issue," says Paul Harrison, a Buddhism scholar at Stanford. "The Dalai Lama has been the prime symbol of unity and national identity in Tibet, and so it's quite likely the battle for his incarnation will be a lot more important than the others."

So where in the world will the next Dalai Lama be born? Harrison and other Buddhism scholars agree that it will likely be from within the 130,000 Tibetan exiles spread throughout India, Europe and North America. With an estimated 8,000 Tibetans living in the United States, could the next Dalai Lama be American-born? "You'll have to ask him," says Harrison. If so, he'll likely be welcomed into a culture that has increasingly embraced reincarnation over the years. According to a 2005 Gallup poll, 20 percent of all U.S. adults believe in reincarnation. Recent surveys by the Barna Group, a Christian research nonprofit, have found that a quarter of U.S. Christians, including 10 percent of all born-again Christians, embrace it as their favored end-of-life view. A non-Tibetan Dalai Lama, experts say, is probably out of the question."

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20227400/site/newsweek/

Ok....so what are your thoughts on this? Do you think china can really pull this off?
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what do you expect? It's China, the world next big power
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China needs to watch it, or it'll get it's ass kicked.
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ailin350 wrote:

what do you expect? It's China, the world next big power


Uh no.
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China causes problems=cut off trade.

We'll just have to make our own happy meal toys.
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Chinas goal here is to crate tension, break the Tibenen unity and create 'fractions' within the community.

I think that they may well exceed. Especially as there will be some unscrupulous people out there who will use this opportunity to make money.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAtNBPO3JkM
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china is being cheap. They should just let them practice their religion in stead of going through all of this.
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i dont think its a matter of religion per say. it seems like the the dalai lama is a symbol not just to tibet, but to many buddhists. theres a strong sense of loyalty tied to that symbol. i believe that china is threatened by that. you all know the lengths alot of people will go for the sake of religion. wars have been waged on that.

on a lighter note, i am amused by how they plan to make this work. can you imagine not being able to die until you sign off on papers that says "will not be dalai lama reincarnated"? then having to sit through hours of videos for proper reincarnation procedures lol.
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china could easily be the next world power but they jus dun have their act together


this is kind of stupid but it doesnt mean people will stop the customs this will still be done in secret so its not to big of a deal

its like banning christianity just because some one says it is illegal doesnt mean people will stop (specially like the hard core ones like the one on trading spouses)
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fenderhawk wrote:

China causes problems=cut off trade.

We'll just have to make our own happy meal toys.


u cut off the trade and the price of almost everything goes up

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yeah Budda
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who cares? oh, people, China is already a world power, a matter of fact, it is a superpower,

fenderhawk wrote:

China causes problems=cut off trade.

We'll just have to make our own happy meal toys.

you're joking right?, cut off trade? the world economy will be ruined if the world or the Us "cut off trade" with China



Posted 8/16/07
weird.. i was just reading about this for my Minorities in China class.
http://dalailama.com/page.54.htm

anyways, of course China can't regulate when the Dalai Lama reincarnates. they're just doing that, to show its superiority over Tibet because they just want them to know that they're part of China not an autonomous region. How would the Chinese know when the next Dalai Lama would be reincarnated. Even if the Chinese were to select another Dalai Lama, i don't think that the Tibetans would be followers of him. I agree there may have to be two.
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