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What if it was -proven- that God -does- exist?
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So?I still doesn't believe that he's real
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A Human-being is composed of the body and the soul...

The body needs the materialistic thing while the soul needs the believing things..

To live a balanced life, the human must feed these two needs...

About the believing things.. a human need to believe in a GOD...who has the power...and Who deserve worship.[That's why there are many threads about the God.. ]

However, if the human has nothing to worship, the wise would search about the God while another one would copycat the others around him or would worship anything whatever it be ( a stone, a cow, a sun, a doll... etc)...

What I wann say is, that every one worships something even the atheist worships Satan.


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Posted 8/29/08
I dont think there is a "god". I think it's humans who made it up, and I think it's a good thing they made up
because then people have "something" they all believe in, and are more of, and not only one person who believes in god. :] I dont have anything against the way people pray or believe in god.

though I dont believe in god, I think I would get pretty scared myself if I ended up face to face with him/her O__O;;
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What I wann say is, that every one worships something even the atheist worships Satan.



No we don't. If we did we'd be called Satanists. If we did worship anything, it would be our ability to go through life without the crutch of religion. Of course, living with that crutch isn't a bad thing, as long as you don't beat other people with it.
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lolz I don't need any proofs to believe in God...

though we can't see Him.. I know He exists....

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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

What I wann say is, that every one worships something even the atheist worships Satan.



No we don't. If we did we'd be called Satanists. If we did worship anything, it would be our ability to go through life without the crutch of religion. Of course, living with that crutch isn't a bad thing, as long as you don't beat other people with it.


Hi...

Wasn't Satan who started the blaspheming...

"Worship" does not necessary mean ritual thing, it means also "obedience"...

The Atheist obeys Satan inside him.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

What I wann say is, that every one worships something even the atheist worships Satan.



No we don't. If we did we'd be called Satanists. If we did worship anything, it would be our ability to go through life without the crutch of religion. Of course, living with that crutch isn't a bad thing, as long as you don't beat other people with it.


Hi...

Wasn't Satan who started the blaspheming...

"Worship" does not necessary mean ritual thing, it means also "obedience"...

The Atheist obeys Satan inside him.


Atheism is the lack of belief in any deity. We don't believe in any supernatural being, including Satan. Not believing in something isn't blasphemy, it's when you disrespect anything religious. Satanists are the ones who obey him.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

What I wann say is, that every one worships something even the atheist worships Satan.



No we don't. If we did we'd be called Satanists. If we did worship anything, it would be our ability to go through life without the crutch of religion. Of course, living with that crutch isn't a bad thing, as long as you don't beat other people with it.


Hi...

Wasn't Satan who started the blaspheming...

"Worship" does not necessary mean ritual thing, it means also "obedience"...

The Atheist obeys Satan inside him.


Atheism is the lack of belief in any deity. We don't believe in any supernatural being, including Satan. Not believing in something isn't blasphemy, it's when you disrespect anything religious. Satanists are the ones who obey him.


heh, man...
An atheists worship himself...[he obeys the devil side of him even if he doesn't notice or believe in it]
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We could never prove that God exists, but if He does we are all going to hell..!
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heh, man...
An atheists worship himself...[he obeys the devil side of him even if he doedn't notice or believe in it]


Have you ever met an atheist? If not, you're talking to one right now, and I can say that I don't worship myself. I don't consider myself to be better than everyone, I realize that I'm just a normal guy, and I don't go around killing puppies and robbing gas stations, and I can safely say that the same is true for most atheists. Go do some research on Satanism, and you'll see who the real devil-worshipers are.
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Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

heh, man...
An atheists worship himself...[he obeys the devil side of him even if he doedn't notice or believe in it]


Have you ever met an atheist? If not, you're talking to one right now, and I can say that I don't worship myself. I don't consider myself to be better than everyone, I realize that I'm just a normal guy, and I don't go around killing puppies and robbing gas stations, and I can safely say that the same is true for most atheists. Go do some research on Satanism, and you'll see who the real devil-worshipers are.


You get it in the wrong way...

I know the devil-worshipers...well..
I don't include the atheists with them... (in rituals).

But, can you tell me why don't you believe in the god?
This perfect universe... everythings around you, even you, is an evidence of his existence.
You obey some thoughts inside you... and you try to avoid other thoughts that exhort you to believe in the god.
so,

[Atheist obeys the devil side of him even if he doesn't notice or believe in it]



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well If God does exist ( Im sure), the world will be in totally 'scrambled', you know what i mean. There will be 2 force, first is the people who believe toward Him like me and the second is the atheist..well, im not being racist but when this situation happened, the two forces will fight each other proving that they are right and the otheare wrong. If this happened, there will be another "world war" between religeons.

that is just my opinion...

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Real_ZERO wrote:


Cuddlebuns wrote:


Real_ZERO wrote:

heh, man...
An atheists worship himself...[he obeys the devil side of him even if he doedn't notice or believe in it]


Have you ever met an atheist? If not, you're talking to one right now, and I can say that I don't worship myself. I don't consider myself to be better than everyone, I realize that I'm just a normal guy, and I don't go around killing puppies and robbing gas stations, and I can safely say that the same is true for most atheists. Go do some research on Satanism, and you'll see who the real devil-worshipers are.


You get it in the wrong way...

I know the devil-worshipers...well..
I don't include the atheists with them... (in rituals).

But, can you tell me why don't you believe in the god?
This perfect universe... everythings around you, even you, is an evidence of his existence.
You obey some thoughts inside you... and you try to avoid other thoughts that exhort you to believe in the god.
so,

[Atheist obeys the devil side of him even if he doesn't notice or believe in it]





perfect? evil? sorry, I don't even understand.

The word perfect is useless for some people, specially those who love progression more than perfection. Please define what perfect is.
And please define evil, as I never see absolute "evil". The only thing that I see is politics and consequences.
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Real_ZERO wrote:
You get it in the wrong way...

I know the devil-worshipers...well..
I don't include the atheists with them... (in rituals).

But, can you tell me why don't you believe in the god?
This perfect universe... everythings around you, even you, is an evidence of his existence.
You obey some thoughts inside you... and you try to avoid other thoughts that exhort you to believe in the god.


I don't believe in any god because everyone has their own idea of who they are and what role they play in our lives and our world. There's no way everyone can be right, and there's no way to tell who is right for sure, so I choose not to believe in any of them.

How are you so sure he made everything around us? Did he tell you himself? When I see the "universe," all I see is a bunch of matter involved in countless chemical reactions. I don't see any evidence of who or why they are there, all I know is that they are there. I'm not evidence of any god's existence, I'm evidence of a defective condom.

We all "obey" thoughts we have. You had a thought to make that post and you "obeyed" it, didn't you? If you believe that thinking independently is a result of Satan living inside someone, then everyone in the world obeys him, including you, unless your god tells you when to sleep, when to eat, what to think, where to go and when to go, and basically dictates every single thing you do in your life.

The only time I've ever had the "urge" to believe in any god is when I was young and everyone around me told me that I would go to hell if I didn't believe in him. But then I grew up and realized that I can think for myself, so I do.
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perfect? evil? sorry, I don't even understand.

The word perfect is useless for some people, specially those who love progression more than perfection. Please define what perfect is.
And please define evil, as I never see absolute "evil". The only thing that I see is politics and consequences.



Welcome,
If u r beside me so I could slap u...(please do it urself...)...
[I will assume that you did or you imagined that someone slapped u]


if so,will u feel pain ?
Can you see the pain?

then, there is no pain if you couldn't see it right!?
nay , you can feel it. so there is a pain 'coz of the slap.

there are the god and the devil as well.



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Perfect:
Complete; thorough
Evil
Something that make a tall man to lay with his legs in the children's way...

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Perfect Univers: every thing is perfect...
There is night after day, ...never two night then day...
The earth and other planets orb around themselves and around the sun in precision way.
The hierarchical systems in ants kingdom..
The system in bee kingdom
The blood flow inside you never come out... without effect..
The computer in your head that never one could make such a perfect PC...like that brain, which every one has a different version of it.. and one version dynamicly runs and think in various ways and different condition .
etc...





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Real_ZERO wrote:


tweety_cool wrote:
perfect? evil? sorry, I don't even understand.

The word perfect is useless for some people, specially those who love progression more than perfection. Please define what perfect is.
And please define evil, as I never see absolute "evil". The only thing that I see is politics and consequences.



Welcome,
If u r beside me so I could slap u...(please do it urself...)...
[I will assume that you did or you imagined that someone slapped u]


if so,will u feel pain ?
Can you see the pain?

then, there is no pain if you couldn't see it right!?
nay , you can feel it. so there is a pain 'coz of the slap.

there are the god and the devil as well.



========================================
Perfect:
Complete; thorough
Evil
Something that make a tall man to lay with his legs in the children's way...

==========================================

Perfect Univers: every thing is perfect...
There is night after day, ...never two night then day...
The earth and other planets orb around themselves and around the sun in precision way.
The hierarchical systems in ants kingdom..
The system in bee kingdom
The blood flow inside you never come out... without effect..
The computer in your head that never one could make such a perfect PC...like that brain, which every one has a different version of it.. and one version dynamicly runs and think in various ways and different condition .
etc...



So what are you trying to say?

that's perfect? sad. I would say those things are awesome, but not perfect.
As "we" are still trying to beat that "perfection", therefore it is not perfect. It's just a stepping stone toward something better.
Btw, it's "No one has ever made such bla bla bla", I'll bet my money that it could be done, sooner or later.

and again, define evil.


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Evil= sin. Simple as that.
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Those buildings also


Cuddlebuns wrote:

bunch of matter involved in chemical reactions.




tweety_cool wrote:

So what are you trying to say?

that's perfect? sad. I would say those things are awesome, but not perfect.
As "we" are still trying to beat that "perfection", therefore it is not perfect. It's just a stepping stone toward something better.
Btw, it's "No one has ever made such bla bla bla", I'll bet my money that it could be done, sooner or later.

and again, define evil.



Is there a settled country without an adept king?

The same is 4 the universe.

the evil is something that exhorts you not only "don't donate to a poor child" but also scream at his face. this definition is 4 u,

see these
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/evil_1
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evil
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devil








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Cuddlebuns wrote:

bunch of matter involved in chemical reactions.


If you don't understand that, then there's no reason for me to try to make a point. Pass chemistry first, then I'll come back to this.



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Evil= sin. Simple as that.


Well according to Real_ZERO, just being an atheist makes me evil. But I don't really think I'm such a bad guy, there's plenty of Christians in the world who have done much worse than I have (I even know a lot of them personally).
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