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Posted 8/19/07

fenderhawk wrote:


Dendetsu wrote:


midnitekiller wrote:

we're humans not gods!..only He had the power to create and destroy life..so we should just leave that business to Him and not mess with life at all!!!


I have one word to say to that sentence.........BULLSHIT!!

There is no God/(s), thats just a dumb-ass myth humans made up as an excuse for how we came to exist.....You can't bring up Religion in a Scientific Discussion. >_>

Also, we seem to be doing the "Destroying Life" part fine. Aren't we? So why not make life? >_>



Respect other peoples opinion and don't shove yours in their face.

To me, what you just said is bullshit. Let's not go into detail, ok?





*Sigh*

やれやれ, お前をバカじゃないね~

Science = Fact

Religion = Fiction

Until someone comes here and proves that any religion is in-fact real, Then I'll respect their opinion. So, "Let's not go into detail, ok?"

お前の負けだ! 成敗ッ!!

Now, let's get back on topic~
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Knowing humans for many generations...

For me there really is nothing wrong with humans creating another form of lifeform. it's a major league for human knowledge. and out of this innovation maybe humans could come up with the discovery of alleviating human lives.

But... (as in But)... knowing humans... they would try to eventually abuse this kind of power, Who knows if this artificial life form thing is for military purposes? This is only the first step. Intentions cannot be seen at this rate.

I know some of you think of this as some sort of rejection of natural. so people come up with making artificial life form. but the thing is...

...neutral. i may never know what's inside the heads of this scientists or what's inside the heads of those behind this experiment.

This progress is now part of human science. It's up to humans what they would do with it.

(...hanging specualtion: who knows we are artificial as well?! nah dont bother)
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Knowing humans for many generations...

For me there really is nothing wrong with humans creating another form of lifeform. it's a major league for human knowledge. and out of this innovation maybe humans could come up with the discovery of alleviating human lives.

But... (as in But)... knowing humans... they would try to eventually abuse this kind of power, Who knows if this artificial life form thing is for military purposes? This is only the first step. Intentions cannot be seen at this rate.

I know some of you think of this as some sort of rejection of natural. so people come up with making artificial life form. but the thing is...

...neutral. i may never know what's inside the heads of this scientists or what's inside the heads of those behind this experiment.

This progress is now part of human science. It's up to humans what they would do with it.

(...hanging specualtion: who knows we are artificial as well?! nah dont bother)


That's what I've been trying to get across for this entire thread....... >_>

Well, said. But, no matter how rational your opinion is....Non-rational/Religious idiots still don't want to believe it. >_>
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(Sorry if I make no sense... ^_^;;;)

I think that artifical life is... wrong.

It's not because I'm religous or anything, in fact, I don't really belive in god at all.
I think that it's wrong because:

1) I think that ANY human or animal made in some Labratory would most likley have some kind of Physical or Mental problem. Sure, they could make a human that looks perfect, but he/she/it could have serious brain problems.

2) I don't think we should try making arfitical humans and animals if we can't even take care of the real ones first. You also have to consider the fact that artifical humans/animals may need lots of special care to keep them alive. So, basicly, while these "fake" humans/animals are having millions of dollars spent on them, real humans/animals are dying.

3) Even if scientists do somehow manage to make a perfect human or animal, I think that it wouldn't be happy at all. I mean, how would you feel if you were told that you were created in a labratory for no reason at all? They would also probably be used as servents, eventualy.

So, in short I think that:

1) It's bad because arfitifal organisums would probably have problems.

2) If we can't find a way to take care of everything that's been created naturaly, then how are we supposed to take care of artifical humans/animals? Especialy if they need lots of... expensive things to keep them alive.

3) Even if they did manage to make a perfect artifical human/animal, I think it would just end up being sad and abused.

(Once again, sorry if I make no sense... ^_^;;;)
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I say, whatever happens, happens. Just let human growth run its course....but I DO see the dilemma in some of this. Things like what kind of laws would be made to protect the people/creatures with artificial lives?....would they be equal?....would we even be able to discern one another anyway? How far does the law let people "use" them?....has anyone seen Battlestar Galactica with that Sandra Park character named, Boomer? Thats the kind of thing I'm talking about.
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Posted 8/19/07

Dendetsu wrote:


blacksun0918 wrote:

Knowing humans for many generations...

For me there really is nothing wrong with humans creating another form of lifeform. it's a major league for human knowledge. and out of this innovation maybe humans could come up with the discovery of alleviating human lives.

But... (as in But)... knowing humans... they would try to eventually abuse this kind of power, Who knows if this artificial life form thing is for military purposes? This is only the first step. Intentions cannot be seen at this rate.

I know some of you think of this as some sort of rejection of natural. so people come up with making artificial life form. but the thing is...

...neutral. i may never know what's inside the heads of this scientists or what's inside the heads of those behind this experiment.

This progress is now part of human science. It's up to humans what they would do with it.

(...hanging specualtion: who knows we are artificial as well?! nah dont bother)


That's what I've been trying to get across for this entire thread....... >_>

Well, said. But, no matter how rational your opinion is....Non-rational/Religious idiots still don't want to believe it. >_>


No respect for religion...

If you plan on staying in this thread for a while, they might as well lock it.
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No respect for religion...

If you plan on staying in this thread for a while, they might as well lock it.


You seem to be forgetting that we're talking about science here, not religion. Why should I respect religion? This is an discussion about Artificial Life, if it was about religion, then I'd respect their opinions. But, it's not. So too bad, you're just gonna have to deal with it.


(Sorry if I make no sense... ^_^;;;)

I think that artifical life is... wrong.

It's not because I'm religous or anything, in fact, I don't really belive in god at all.
I think that it's wrong because:

1) I think that ANY human or animal made in some Labratory would most likley have some kind of Physical or Mental problem. Sure, they could make a human that looks perfect, but he/she/it could have serious brain problems.

2) I don't think we should try making arfitical humans and animals if we can't even take care of the real ones first. You also have to consider the fact that artifical humans/animals may need lots of special care to keep them alive. So, basicly, while these "fake" humans/animals are having millions of dollars spent on them, real humans/animals are dying.

3) Even if scientists do somehow manage to make a perfect human or animal, I think that it wouldn't be happy at all. I mean, how would you feel if you were told that you were created in a labratory for no reason at all? They would also probably be used as servents, eventualy.

So, in short I think that:

1) It's bad because arfitifal organisums would probably have problems.

2) If we can't find a way to take care of everything that's been created naturaly, then how are we supposed to take care of artifical humans/animals? Especialy if they need lots of... expensive things to keep them alive.

3) Even if they did manage to make a perfect artifical human/animal, I think it would just end up being sad and abused.

(Once again, sorry if I make no sense... ^_^;;;)


Well said. You've got a point there, at least you gave a good description of your reason, unlike some people (You know who I'm talking to. >_>)

Anyway, If we can't perfect ourselves, we can't really make a perfect human.
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yea yea yea they make artificial life then SOONER OR LATER people are gonna want to make super soldiers adn somethings probably gonna go wrong end of the world etc etc etc
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beh~ why do u think artificial life is wrong?. if its used to improve our daily lifes.. then.. why not?... War?.. this isnt the movies dude.. go some where else..
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LOL! is there really artificial life? if there is,I would like my rat to live again!
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So generally everybody would really agree to a lifeform created in a lab.

it's just that humans really cant be trusted with such technology.

@chloe's points

1. should errors happen, it's part of this thing called experimentation. Hey, no one's stupid enough to commit merely errors on an experimentation. Everybody hopes for a positive outcome. Although i get the point of you being scared of SUCH as dangerous error. (^^ they might create a real live Tyrant in Resident Evil ^^)

2. dont worry too much about the live dying ones. there's a department for them. there's a department for this one. if the department on the live dying ones seem to not satisfy you, well, try not blaming it too much to this department.

3. Tough point you got there. We dont wanna make mistakes of making a Sephroth out of that kind of experiment. And the question there remained unanswered: What happens to that life they would create if they succeed? What would happen to those creatures (presuming they would be in human form) after being born?

on number 3, id just say that "Let's not abuse the life we're gonna create. Creation of life (naturally or by any means) must accompany responsibility from the creator (the human creator that is).

My final stand about this:
I can think of so many wonderful things about this experiment. Yet, knowing humans, it really scares me a lot of the disgusting things they would do about this experiment.
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Well, humans should only use all the knowledge they have about this, to create (grow) artificial organs. We should use it to heal people, not to make more people.

When you create artificial life, you know much about it. So if you know how a human works, we could simply cure anything. And that would be great. (Yes, there are too many humans in this world. But everyone should have the chance to die old.)

But I don't even want to think about what would happen when people in the future can choose what their children look like.
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I acutually like the "growing new organs" idea, but doesnt anyone else think that we should fix the problems with the already existing life on the planet first? Sure playing god and creating life is great. However, what about all the other crap that is happening to the other animals out there right now?
Posted 8/20/07

monkey-of-evil720 wrote:

I dont get it T.T


ROFL! Of course you don't.

-It's wrong x[ yet...good? O__o
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man shouldnt play the hands of God or were gonna pay for it dearly
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