Honor Killings
Posted 3/14/08 , edited 3/14/08
This is EXTREMELY disturbing to me:

http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/phyllischesler/2008/03/12/an_americanmuslim_state_of_min.php


LEWISVILLE, Texas -- The brother of two teenagers killed in January defended their father, the prime suspect in the slayings, at a candlelight vigil Saturday night.

Family and friends held the vigil to remember Sarah and Amina Said, who were shot and killed in the back of their father's taxicab at an Irving hotel in January.

Yasser Said, their father, is the prime suspect in the case.

Sarah and Amina Said would have both celebrated birthdays this month. Sarah would have been 18, and Amina would have turned 19.

About two dozen classmates remembered the sisters with pink carnations and pink balloons in hand.

During the vigil, the girls' brother took the microphone, saying his father did not kill his sisters.

"They pulled the trigger, not my dad," he said.


What the hell is up with this attitude? This guy says his own sisters deserved to die and that his father had no choice but to kill them!


For example, based on extensive interviews that I have done with the female relatives of the murdered Texas teenagers, it is clear that:

a) Amina and Sarah were expected to wear headscarves. Their failure to do so, their “hidden” lives as normal American teenagers, doomed them.

b) Amina and Sarah were expected to enter into arranged marriages against their will to much older Egyptian men whom they had never met. Their refusal to do so doomed them.

c) Amina and Sarah were expected to keep quiet about the horrific sexual, physical, and psychological abuse which was heaped upon them by their father, mother, and brother. Their failure to do so doomed them.

d) Amina and Sarah were not supposed to have “boyfriends.” At the very least, their friends, both male and female, were not supposed to be Christians. The fact that they were friendly with Christian male teenagers doomed them.

e) Amina and Sarah were supposed to learn to hate America and to choose Shari’a law. Their failure to do so doomed them.

These are only some of the “rules” that Amina and Sarah were expected to obey. One of my informants has quoted their brother Islam, who often stalked his sisters, as saying: “They knew the rules. They broke them.” Islam is saying that it is their fault that his father had to kill them.

Thus, whenever you see a woman in a face veil, headscarf, or burqa, it is very likely that these rules also apply to her.

For the record: Let me again repeat what I have written before, namely, that there are many individual Muslims who are personally peaceful and who favor human rights for everyone, even for women and infidels. There are also individual Muslims who oppose and who have fled Islamic apartheid regimes. However, most Muslim religious leaders do not condemn the barbarism committed in the name of their religion. (A brave handful do).
Posted 3/14/08
I know, what the hell man!
How can he say that his sisters deserved to die?


Hey Shibole,
what do you think about the protests escalating to violence in Tibet?
Sorry I know totally off topic but you sound like a very intelligent person.
Posted 3/14/08
Sadly, it's a cultural thing that some Muslims/Islamists etc.. believe in. In this guys mind, his father was protecting and upholding morals that his daughters had defiled. I know it doesn't make sense but that's just how some of these people think. =/
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with the brother? So basically the father and the brother didn't like their sisters trying to live the American way so the father got fed up and killed them. Now, he wants to be a victim. What ever man you deserve to be punished.
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Due to your upbringing and your environment, you may say this is inhumane, or "what the hell is wrong with ___" or WTF FKN JUMP OFF CLIFF. However, if you were brought up in the same context as these people (and maybe understand the situation as much people who experienced it first-hand), you'd probably nod in agreement (for example).
The world is diverse, you get your sushi and you get your mass religious murders, get used to it. (As harsh at it may sound)
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wat a fugde up bro
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Gabcom wrote:
The world is diverse, you get your sushi and you get your mass religious murders, get used to it. (As harsh at it may sound)

Thinking that it's ok to murder your kids because they have non-Islamic boyfriends and don't want to wear hijab is a kind of diversity that we do NOT need in the US.

We have to draw the line somewhere.
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Ironic how if they hate America and its ideals so fucking much why move there in the first place? Why immigrate into a country full of people they hate? This is so mind numbingly stupid, it appalls me. They do not want their daughters to associate with Americanism or American people yet they live in that country.
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Posted 3/14/08

shibole wrote:


Gabcom wrote:
The world is diverse, you get your sushi and you get your mass religious murders, get used to it. (As harsh at it may sound)

Thinking that it's ok to murder your kids because they have non-Islamic boyfriends and don't want to wear hijab is a kind of diversity that we do NOT need in the US.

We have to draw the line somewhere.


Ahaha yeah that's true, but unless drastic actions are taken, immigration won't stop, yet another good/bad thing.
Posted 3/14/08

xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:
As horrible as this is, the brother is only saying what he believes is right - you have to understand that he was brought up a lot differently to most of you here. That doesn't justify what the father did, but it explains why the brother holds certain veiws.

Well, the disturbing thing is that people can be brought up this way in the US itself.
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xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:


shibole wrote:


xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:
As horrible as this is, the brother is only saying what he believes is right - you have to understand that he was brought up a lot differently to most of you here. That doesn't justify what the father did, but it explains why the brother holds certain veiws.

Well, the disturbing thing is that people can be brought up this way in the US itself.


But who's to say that this way of being brought up is wrong? It's all a matter of how you yourself were raised.

(BTW, I think these sort of views ARE wrong - murder is never justified - but I'm not going to condemn the brother..)


I'll condemn the brother. Part of why these girls were shot is because they weren't silent about sexual, physical and mental abuse that he took part in giving them. He was also, most likely from what we know of the article, part of the way the father found out about their friends/boyfriends, what they talked about and such that got them killed.


As for the question of why people move here if they hate America and wish to follow Shari'a law, most of it, if not all, is due to "non-violent" jihad, where rather than taking the radical actions we see more often on the news, they take radical action by moving to nations that don't follow Islamic regimes and try to socially push their laws on to society by refusing to assimilate and using our own political correctness to get their laws in more and more. This is NOT all of Islam in America (or any other non-Muslim states), nor even most of it, but it's becoming a more common thing.
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Posted 3/15/08
Would the Muslims out there says this is cultural and people like the father used Islam to justify his actions?

From the articles that shibole been posting, there's a lot of f**ked up people in Texas.
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