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Posted 4/9/08
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NON-SWORDS
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A Stainless Steel sword is for decoration only. It does not have the endurance for combat or even cutting practice and does not have the right weight and feel for kata. It has numerous stress points and can break easily.

A Replica Sword is an object made of passable quality materials but is not completely functional.

A Stage Steel Sword is a dulled sword which is used for swashbuckling on stage or in movies. It has passable quality enough to be able to survive lots of stress and repeated clanging against another sword (Of which there was very little in JSA)

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REAL SWORDS
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An Iaito sword is an intentionally dulled blade for kata.

A Real Sword has Carbon in the steel and was made for the intention for combat. It is made to cut. It should be able to cut through two adults in succession. It should be able to be used for atleast a little hard tameshigiri without any noticeable stress. It should have a hamon (wave in the temper line) and the blade must be hand forged.

A Quality Real Sword is the above description but made by a reputable person. The swords have a good reputation to be fully functional and durable. It can be used

A Real Nihonto is a sword made in Japan in the traditional way by a member of one of the traditional schools. It is registered and signed and also has the qualifications of the above two. It can be an antique or a newer sword. Antiques shouldn't be used, but newer ones 1900+ are fine and should carry great quality.

All *REAL SWORDS* MUST be oiled after every practice and ATLEAST every 3 days. I oil mine every day.
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Posted 4/9/08

Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

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NON-SWORDS
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A Stainless Steel sword is for decoration only. It does not have the endurance for combat or even cutting practice and does not have the right weight and feel for kata. It has numerous stress points and can break easily.

A Replica Sword is an object made of passable quality materials but is not completely functional.

A Stage Steel Sword is a dulled sword which is used for swashbuckling on stage or in movies. It has passable quality enough to be able to survive lots of stress and repeated clanging against another sword (Of which there was very little in JSA)

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REAL SWORDS
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An Iaito sword is an intentionally dulled blade for kata.

A Real Sword has Carbon in the steel and was made for the intention for combat. It is made to cut. It should be able to cut through two adults in succession. It should be able to be used for atleast a little hard tameshigiri without any noticeable stress. It should have a hamon (wave in the temper line) and the blade must be hand forged.

A Quality Real Sword is the above description but made by a reputable person. The swords have a good reputation to be fully functional and durable. It can be used

A Real Nihonto is a sword made in Japan in the traditional way by a member of one of the traditional schools. It is registered and signed and also has the qualifications of the above two. It can be an antique or a newer sword. Antiques shouldn't be used, but newer ones 1900+ are fine and should carry great quality.

All *REAL SWORDS* MUST be oiled after every practice and ATLEAST every 3 days. I oil mine every day.



Ok, but I already know all those things. What I want to know is how determine a real sword from a stainless steel sword when it comes to apearance.
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The hamon, does it have a machined signature on the hibaki, does it feel heavier. But that doesn't judge quality.
I still really recommend a bugei sword. They are a bit more expensive, but man you will never want to get anothe r sword. They are soooo sweet!
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Posted 4/10/08
Ok, if its heavy then does that mean that its stainless steel?
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No. The heaviness has to be judged a certain way. Usually (but not all times) real swords with carbon in them will be slightly heavier but in the since that it is balanced; depending on the shape of the sword it might feel lighter.

The important thing is the brand name. If you don't know it is from a quality smith, then it is as good as a wallhanger.
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Someone told me years ago that if I'm gonna buy a sword then I should buy a branded one cuz those kind of swords has a reputation to keep, so they will always try to make the best sword. Is that true?
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Posted 4/12/08
Yes. That's why I suggest Bugei.
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Well what about other brands? What can you say about them and can you suggest other brands that are not too pricy cuz I've ask my relatives from Canada and the U.S and they said NO cuz Bugei swords are too expensive so they can't get me one?
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Well first off, why are you going to get a live sword if you haven't learnt to even use a wooden one?
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Posted 4/14/08
Well as you know I'm joining a club here, but I want to have a live blade already cause I'm pretty excited on wielding it.
Besides a bought a book on how to use a Katana and a Kodachi.
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Man I seriously thought you had more sense than that.

You can't learn swordsmanship from a book. To do so would be a grave mistake and an extremely unwise decision. I will not help someone find a good sword if they plan on wielding it without any training. That's dangerous and stupid. Now I am not trying to insult you, but rather that action is not a very smart one. By wielding a blade without any qualification you are putting yourself and everyone around you in imminent danger. You shouldn't play with weapons; and being excited to "wield" a sword without training is just that; Play.

You need to learn how to use a bokken before you even think of wielding a real sword.

People who do stuff like that are what we in the martial art crowd call "Backyard Samurai" and you will get no respect from seriously martial artists doing such things. I am telling you this because I like you. I just hope you find the sense to heed my words.
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Whoa...that's pretty deep, I'm not actually just gonna wield it, of course I'm gonna take basic training on it, so dont worry I wont do anything stupid with it. I'm not like other people who wields swords without thinking first, that's why I'm joining a club right? Besides I was just messin' with you....hehehe.....

SO DONT WORRY................
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Posted 4/16/08
Alright then.
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Posted 4/16/08
Yoshi......By the way, do you know any book written by James Williams?
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