Fansubbed Anime Screwed?
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Following a huge increase in complaints from the music, movie and software industries, the four major Japanese ISP organizations have agreed that they will work with copyright holders to track down copyright infringing file-sharers and disconnect them from the internet.

In 2006, a Japanese ISP decided to plan measures to stop their subscribers using file-sharing software, by tracking their activities and disconnecting them from the Internet. The plan didn’t come to fruition as the government stepped in and said that such monitoring might have privacy implications.

Now, under huge pressure from the movie, music and software industries, the four major ISP organizations in Japan are at it again, and have agreed to take drastic action against online pirates.

According to the report in Yomiuri Shimbun, the agreement would see copyright holders tracking down file-sharers on the Internet using “special detection software” and then notifying ISPs of alleged infringers. ISPs would first send out emailed warnings to those traced, then interrupt the Internet connection if action to cease the activity isn’t taken. For persistent breaches, the ISP would ultimately terminate the accounts of its subscribers.

These four major ISP organizations - which include Telecom Service Association and the Telecommunications Carriers Association - are made up of around 1,000 other ISPs, a large portion of the Japanese market. In collaboration with the copyright holders, the ISPs will set up a panel in April to decide exactly how the system should operate.

Right now, there is a lot discussion surrounding the suggestion that persistent file-sharers could be banned from the internet. So far there have been proposals in France, the UK and Australia.

During December last year we reported that the number of internet users file-sharing in Japan had increased by a 180% in a single year.



So how does this effect us anime viewers around the world. Well, since people in japan go out of their way to provide RAWS to fansubs - this law will stop or at the very least hinder these very people that provide these said raws.

If this is in the wrong section, please mods move to appropiate area.


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Yeah, i was just reading about this.

They said the same thing about music downloads a few years ago, but people still did it and will continue to.

Its just gonna get to the "if you cant beat em, join em" finale. People always seem to find a way around things.

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Naruto's translation is screwed
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Ok, they're right that it's wrong to pirate stuff like that, but their choice of actions are far too drastic.
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-129864/The-end-of-online-anime.html

It's already been posted in the Anime Forums. I don't know if it counts as a copied post or not because its different forums. I just thought I'd let you know, though, in case it is.


pyromaniachaos777 wrote:

Ok, they're right that it's wrong to pirate stuff like that, but their choice of actions are far too drastic.


How is it too drastic? They aren't making money, so they had to do something. It's a step they had to take, or they would never have gotten their stuff off the net.
Posted 3/15/08
Ah ... and then one day they will ask themselves , " People stopped watching anime . Why ? "
Not everyone can afford to buy English dubbed DVDs . That would really suck . >.<
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good thing i like buying the dvds lol
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Archangel768 wrote:

good thing i like buying the dvds lol


I would too if I had the money to buy them . They`re so expensive . =/
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well anime wouldnt be the only thing affected if this happened. jdramas will also become hard to come by as well music. you'll most likely be able to get music but you wont be able to get them right away like before. but it doesnt really matter. people always find a way around these things. even after they get sued some people still keep doin it haha
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snow-chibi wrote:


Archangel768 wrote:

good thing i like buying the dvds lol


I would too if I had the money to buy them . They`re so expensive . =/


well i don't exactly have the money. but when i get anime i buy the dvds. but hopefully i'll get a job in a couple of weeks and i'll line my bedroom wall with all sorts of anime stuff lol
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DRO1 wrote:

Yeah, i was just reading about this.

They said the same thing about music downloads a few years ago, but people still did it and will continue to.

Its just gonna get to the "if you cant beat em, join em" finale. People always seem to find a way around things.




Agreed.
Even if they put these plans into motion, I doubt it would have a huge enough impact to completely stop fansubbing. It would just makes things more interesting and mean that subbers will need to think of new ways to beat it. It's a game of chase right now and thanks to the power of technology, I think subbers will always be one step ahead. The internet is absolutely vast and their are ways available to bypass anything, I highly doubt they will completely irradicate fansubbing and filesharing.

I also agree that this will lead to them "joining" the online subbers by releasing their own subbed version but of course we would have to pay!
Posted 3/15/08

Kiri-san wrote:

Agreed.
Even if they put these plans into motion, I doubt it would have a huge enough impact to completely stop fansubbing. It would just makes things more interesting and mean that subbers will need to think of new ways to beat it. It's a game of chase right now and thanks to the power of technology, I think subbers will always be one step ahead. The internet is absolutely vast and their are ways available to bypass anything, I highly doubt they will completely irradicate fansubbing and filesharing.

I also agree that this will lead to them "joining" the online subbers by releasing their own subbed version but of course we would have to pay!


That would be a good idea but not everyone has money to pay .
Less people would watch anime because we have to pay like ... $ .99 for an episode .
It`s like in iTunes . Not a lot of people purchase those $ .99 songs .
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Posted 3/15/08

Kiri-san wrote:


DRO1 wrote:

Yeah, i was just reading about this.

They said the same thing about music downloads a few years ago, but people still did it and will continue to.

Its just gonna get to the "if you cant beat em, join em" finale. People always seem to find a way around things.




Agreed.
Even if they put these plans into motion, I doubt it would have a huge enough impact to completely stop fansubbing. It would just makes things more interesting and mean that subbers will need to think of new ways to beat it. It's a game of chase right now and thanks to the power of technology, I think subbers will always be one step ahead. The internet is absolutely vast and their are ways available to bypass anything, I highly doubt they will completely irradicate fansubbing and filesharing.

I also agree that this will lead to them "joining" the online subbers by releasing their own subbed version but of course we would have to pay!


Wow... that's one possibility that I never thought of. o.o
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English dub anime are so expensive
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