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Should a law limiting birth be required?...
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I know im not an expert or anything but from what ive know... theres over 6 billion humans on earth right now... and theres only about 1 billion people in 1800... do you not think there should be a law limiting the birth rate?...(yea china have a law limitin only 1 child... but i think we shouldnt do that...)... due to the fact that we have no predators above us in our foodchain... we were growin dumber by the year... dont you think that we should have a law limiting that only people of certain qualities can give birth?... otherwise they need to serve the military for like w.e years to give birth?... i mean... do you really want us to run out of resources for us?... and look around... we caused many animals to become extinct and we cut down tons of forest... why?... its because of having too many human in this world!

well i know this is kinda stupid but i think we should allow only the smart people to give birth... since smart people will pass on their smartness to their offsprings and would help us to make the world better.... while stupid people that are breeding like rabbits wont help us do anything besides to add more problem to our society... (robots are soon replacing them anyways... so why need stupid people that are like machines in the world?...)
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xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:

Being smart isn't nescessarily something you inherit from your parents. You could have totally "stupid" parents and be a genius, same goes for the opposite (Smart parents; "Stupid" child). Anyway, I don't think we should have laws regulating birth - people have the natural right to bear children and I don't think it's fair to take that away from them. While many people are being born in the world, there are many countries with aging populations which result in a large number of deaths each day (not to mention the amount of people killed by war, disease, famine etc.)


but having smart parents at least gives the child a better chance of being smart....... yes people have the rights and yes people are dying... but were breeding like rabbits now.... our death rate is lower than the birth rate...
war kills people but it doesnt kill the whole nation of people... if it doesnt kill the whole nation, the people there will start breeding again to renew their military in some 20 years... and dieases and others doesnt kill as much as we give birth to too...
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xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:

While what you're saying IS practical - some form of population control would help ease the strain on our resources - you need to take people's feelings into account (not to sound like a total Dr. Phil or anything). Saying to someone "Hey, you can't have a kid 'cause you're not smart enough" or "Hey, you can't have a kid because we wanna save this fossil fuel" isn't going to work very well.



it will work if the whole world starts to do something like that... and yes im trying to keep our resources and intelligence... and the people will finally start to work harder and save the resources and intelligence if they want to pass their genes down...
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China is trying to reduce the child birth in the country by increasing the tax for the 2nd child conceived, but I've heard that they've change the concept.... If you say that people have no rights to reduce child birth.... if a country is already in a state where the government cannot feed the people, then reducing child birth is acceptable. There's no point in giving birth to a dozen children and not being able to support them. A Chinese politician once said, I don't remember his name, He said' No matter a black cat or a white cat, as long it can catch mice, its a good cat.' He means that no matter what the method, as long as the people of China have enough food to eat. It is stated that people would only protest against the government when they are hungry (unsatisfied)
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o0James0o wrote:
it will work if the whole world starts to do something like that... and yes im trying to keep our resources and intelligence... and the people will finally start to work harder and save the resources and intelligence if they want to pass their genes down...


Yeah, and what's the likelihood of the entire world doing that? If you want intelligent people, instead of placing bans upon birth you should focus your efforts on a better education system - that's what's going to create intelligent people, not banning "stupid people" from having children. There are other ways to save resources that don't involve banning something that's only natural.


yea i agree... the world would most likely never do that :/.... they have too high of a expection on the race "human" and especially on the stupid ones... and educations wont make a person smart if they dont want to learn.. in order to make a person to do something... you have a threaten them... and banning them form givin birth would help them to educate better... save resources?... how?... theres too many people in the world to save the resources...
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xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:



makimaki_sataandagi wrote:

China is trying to reduce the child birth in the country by increasing the tax for the 2nd child conceived, but I've heard that they've change the concept.... If you say that people have no rights to reduce child birth.... if a country is already in a state where the government cannot feed the people, then reducing child birth is acceptable. There's no point in giving birth to a dozen children and not being able to support them. A Chinese politician once said, I don't remember his name, He said' No matter a black cat or a white cat, as long it can catch mice, its a good cat.' He means that no matter what the method, as long as the people of China have enough food to eat. It is stated that people would only protest against the government when they are hungry (unsatisfied)


I agree with you on the matter of "If people can't support their kids, then they shouldn't have them" but I don't agree with the idea of the thread that only smart people should have children/people shouldn't have kids just to save resources.


lol what do you expect from someone who doesn't know who Osama is
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xUnmeiNoDeaix wrote:

What you're saying makes perfect sense logically, I'll give you that. But do you REALLY want to live in a society where you're being forced to do something because someone threatens you? I wouldn't, it happens enough as it is anyway. Even if the worlds population was reduced, resources aren't guaranteed to be saved. I think what needs to happen is not population reduction but better use of resources. And I understand that some countries don't have the means to support their population (such as third world countries etc.) and laws regarding child birth would probably benift them - but that's a different matter.


a society like that is everywhere... we currently are living in one like that... for example... are the laws not threatening a person?... if you break a law you have to go to jail or something?... and yes i know even if it is reduced it might not help to save resources that much but at least it will help... and by reducing the idiots would give the smart people a better chance at finding ways to save the earth... yea thats a totally different matter... im talkin about idiots here :O... not just any person... and if we educate the 3rd world countries... we might even find geniuses within...
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makimaki_sataandagi wrote:

lol what do you expect from someone who doesn't know who Osama is


does knowing him show any difference?... so u know him and does that mean that you're better than teh great me in any way?..
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makimaki_sataandagi wrote:

lol what do you expect from someone who doesn't know who Osama is


does knowing him show any difference?... so u know him and does that mean that you're better than teh great me in any way?..


I didn't say that... its just that its really funny
Posted 3/16/08
Being smart doesn't necessarily mean that you are more qualified for life than others. Even "stupid" people have their qualities. For example, people who are smart/intelligent have mostly a weak body or immunity system, and dumb people (not referring to retards or some other mentally challenged peeps), are mostly quite unaffected by allergies and other diseases.
Also if there were only smart people in this world, who knows how this world would turn out. Also how would you want to measure someone's intelligence? With the IQ test? No offense but the IQ tests are failures. It is too biased.

But I must say that I would agree with the birth rate regulations. For example I don't like it that we are supporting life that can't take care of itself in the future, such as seriously crippled people or retarded or some other thing. It sounds cold, but it is not natural to support lifes of this kind. Also I think that capital punishment should be brought back to Europe. To get rid of a few sick individuals. I am seriously not wanting to support some psychopath in jail.
Also jobless people who are living with the support of the social system, such as they don't want to work, I would give them a time limit to find a job and if they won't find any, then I would use them as slaves-like and use them for the dirty work.
Fat people who are not wanting to work, should be liquidated too, I can't stand people who are terribly fat, so fat that they can't even leave their house, their unproductiveness is annoying. Unless they don't have a problem with metabolism they should get killed or put into diet camps, and starve the hell down. <.<''
Maybe some genocida wouldn't be that bad either. Jk

Abortion and euthanasia should be legalised everywhere. Condoms should be for free. Anti-baby pills should be for free. And so on...

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Being smart doesn't necessarily mean that you are more qualified for life than others. Even "stupid" people have their qualities. For example, people who are smart/intelligent have mostly a weak body or immunity system, and dumb people (not referring to retards or some other mentally challenged peeps), are mostly quite unaffected by allergies and other diseases.
Also if there were only smart people in this world, who knows how this world would turn out. Also how would you want to measure someone's intelligence? With the IQ test? No offense but the IQ tests are failures. It is too biased.

But I must say that I would agree with the birth rate regulations. For example I don't like it that we are supporting life that can't take care of itself in the future, such as seriously crippled people or retarded or some other thing. It sounds cold, but it is not natural to support lifes of this kind. Also I think that capital punishment should be brought back to Europe. To get rid of a few sick individuals. I am seriously not wanting to support some psychopath in jail.
Also jobless people who are living with the support of the social system, such as they don't want to work, I would give them a time limit to find a job and if they won't find any, then I would use them as slaves-like and use them for the dirty work.
Fat people who are not wanting to work, should be liquidated too, I can't stand people who are terribly fat, so fat that they can't even leave their house, their unproductiveness is annoying. Unless they don't have a problem with metabolism they should get killed or put into diet camps, and starve the hell down. <.<''
Maybe some genocida wouldn't be that bad either. Jk

Abortion and euthanasia should be legalised everywhere. Condoms should be for free. Anti-baby pills should be for free. And so on...

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lol Liquidated........ thats real harsh..... to the fat guy
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Holy shit! I was hoping you would post a new thread soon! Brace yourselves for epic win and lulz!
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lol Liquidated........ thats real harsh..... to the fat guy


Not really, it is also harsh from them getting me to destroy my eyesight because of their lard-like bodies. Eww. It is not like somoene is forcing them to be fat. Unless of course they have troubles with their metabolism. You can easily get rid of this fatness if you have some discipline, and people who don't manage that have no self-discipline so we can burn them at the stake right away instead of feeding this helpless french-fries eating monsters . People with no self-discipline are annoying. And not only that, most of the fatties are annoying, they complain 24/7 about how they hate to be fat. FFS, then stop going to McDonalds.

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Jameswithnumbers: what is your evidence that people are getting dumber? How is this because noone's preying on us? Although education holds back the birth rate, I've never heard that intelligence itself does. Can't smart people get horny and reckless? Are intelligent people really so good at saving the world?
Education doesn't make a person more intelligent, just more knowledgable. My degree says I'm knowledgable, my grades says that I haven't become smarter.
To save the earth we don't ned intelligence. We already know the ways. What we need is the policy. It's the policies we need to change.

xun: laws DECIDE what's wrong. What's "bad" is subjective. The laws passed are rules decided upon by politicians. They are to protect people, IF oand only if, this is what they are meant to do by the politicians. Politicians may easily decide having children is wrong. Why not? They could pass such a law. They decide upon the law.

Midnight:if you want to reduce the numbers, why not just let the "sick" walk freely, why kill them?
Posted 3/16/08

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Midnight:if you want to reduce the numbers, why not just let the "sick" walk freely, why kill them?


That's some major idiocy. This "sick" people would kill the "normal" people, they don't specialise in killing other psychoes. Now seriously this statement of yours makes no sense at all.

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