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Should a law limiting birth be required?...
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Posted 3/16/08
Midnight: if you just want to reduce the numbers, its fine. Your point was to kill them off to reduce numbers, my point is that more people would be killed if they were alive. Don't see any flawed logic.
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Isnt that in China already? But ppl break it anyway.....just about 4000~7000 RMB if you wanna have a second child.....but yes, i think that there should be a law like that in some countries that are over-flowing with people

but ever thougth of it one the politic view?:Some countries need ppl.Some countries doesnt have a high birth rate, or doubling rate. They need people, immigrants, to help the country survive. Also, you never know when a really benificial person may be born...

It's also bad for the country, if there arent enough people, because jobs need someone to do them. Also, taxes! if there's too less people, yes, the service may be better, but those money comes from taxes!

Ask my geography teacher >_>....he could go on for days......explaining this.....

P.S. they were just points that i wanted to make I'm not sideing with anyone.....
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When China passed that law there were many opposed arguments,e tc...and guess what...they have a goal...they have a plan to get to that goal and they ignored what the rest of the world have to say and they achieved that goal... IF there is not enough resources to support a population..do u know what happen? The population start to die off.....the rich or well off could afford the resources and will live on...it is like a bunch of bacteria in a culture...it started exponential and then level off....stationary phase...maybe the human population will be something like that...but unlike bacteria ...our resources are selective...meaning we can only used certain things....and waiting for it to replenish is too long..so with our technology we might go to the moon or mars and then start our infestation there...There should be some sort of birth-rate control...we could start off with something like abortion..lot of teens have "accident" and throw their baby away or live on walfare b/c they cant support the kid....b/c they are too young...some people have unwanted pregnancy and cannot support anymore kids so they should allow abortion rather than force them to have the kid....I think it is impossible for america to do what china does....it would impose on human rights...limited to one child per couple..what about homosexual....how are they going to get the child...i believe adoption sounds good...

Overall, we should something to start off first to prevent unwanted pregnancy..and then slowly transfer to the birth rate thingy...anyways..i truly believe that people should have not too much kids that they cannot support....IF they cannot support one kid...why have more :assuming they are decently educated and know about birth control:...then again i can answer that question too..so they can get more money from walfare...sad..but true that what some people do...
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here in d phiLippines , i reaLLy do think so ...
Posted 3/16/08

miatot wrote:

here in d phiLippines , i reaLLy do think so ...


You're the first person I've seen on here (besides myself) who's into Ball Jointed Dolls. Love the icon!
I'm glad I'm not alone! ;_;


Honestly, I think they should limit the number of kids people have based on income and other factors. Simply because I don't think it's fair for someone to be popping out 5 kids when they can't even afford to have 1, and end up milking the government and tax payers for money to support them.

My opinion is a little biased though, considering I don't like or want children myself. ^_^;
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No, I dont see a need for limiting birth. If you think about poverty and hunger, it has ALWAYS existed, with any number of population. Some powerful people abuse their positions and bla bla bla ... basicly steal from the other people, thats why they are hungry. If people were kind and good, we would not starve. There is plenty of food and stuff to go around, its just that some people want it all, and take it all, and the rest dont get any. Its not a problem of population, its a problem of human nature (wickedness?) and greed. Because, there has always been hunger in history.
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Cina has a one.child POLICY. If there's a law it's not very active. If we get twins, they can keep them without difficulties, so that's probably the best to get (or perhaps triplets, quadruplets...). Families with one child gets benefits. In rural districts they have apparently "eased up". Don't know what that's supposed to mean, probably that it's ignored most places.

The problem with food is distribution. It is not that some people are keeping all the food, it is that there is no transport of food. So it gets burned or tossed away. Because giving it away is expensive, the food "manufactureres" can not transport it where it is needed, and it would cost money. It is not about greed. If Europe started a food transportation system, there would be a lot less famine.

No welfare for people with more than one child?

Teen pregnancy, from what I've heard, is more a relationship problem. The realtionship wasn't that serious, or won't last, not so much age itself.

I am not sure how one child per couple would work, considering that many couples break up or get divorced in western countries at least. I am not sure that would necessarily have much impact, except for people that stay together.
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To be honest, Its not much about morals and ethics but Demographics. like in Britain and the rest of the world we have an ageing population. which means people will have to work longer till 70? or not have any pension at all because the government cannot support that many people.
The way to counter it is more birth rates or more immigration.
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I fail to see the point of an additional law regulating birth control besides the one already established in China. Most developed countries are actually having less children than the optimal amount and are facing the problems of an aging population. Birth control in those countries would be useless and be a waste of money to enforce on the few "ineligible" people giving birth to more than they can handle.

Unless you mean enforcing them for countries such as India where such a regulation is not in place. Then again that treads on the human rights issue. While I agree that what China did with birth control is actually beneficial, human rights issue would make it impossible to enforce in a democratic country. The government would lose office so fast. The only reason why it works in China is because the government there cannot be voted out of parliament.
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from what i hear the majority of the earth's population growth is coming from countries that arent industrialized. I also hear that population in at least some e.u. countries is actually going down. sounds to me like all we have to do is help undeveloped countries develop (especially birth control)
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noooooooooooooooooooo

My miniscule brain can't seem to churn out anything more productive than this. Please forgive me. I am ashamed. I have no right to post in the ED section with this type of content.

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Im suprised at the reponses. First of all for the whole earth wide population control, let me just say that human controlled anything dosent allways go as intended. China for example as a result of tryed population control has a real bad ratio of men to women which borders on the real bad side same thing could happen world wide.

Now another thing was the thought that only smart people should have children, that idea is up there in the dumbest things I've ever herd section of my memories. That idea is based on eugenics which was a failed sceince. Why did it fail? Becouse its a fact that smart people can give birth to a dum child, Its a fact that an athelet can give bitrth to a child unable to do sports, two singers can have a child that cant sing. Eugenics thought that people who steel would bare children that stole, that people with low iq would give birth to dum children.

MidnightZorya first post was the most disapointing of all. That was the same kind of talk Hitler used to justifie geneside of many people not just the jews. That kind of thought proces would lead to the government storming in a house to kill a citzen becouse hes over weight. Anothere would be ordered to die becouse they got parylized from the neck down, why bother supporting someone whos parylized when they can just be killed insted, to reduce the world population. Thats sad line of thought and scewed logic.
Posted 3/18/08
I think other countries should limit births like China. One child a family is too few, maybe two or three maybe. There may be more abortions though. Tough tough.
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spazmatasmic wrote:

I think other countries should limit births like China. One child a family is too few, maybe two or three maybe. There may be more abortions though. Tough tough.


havin 1 child means decreasin 1 human per family for the next generation.... havin 2 children means that the population will b constant... havin 3 children that means ur addin 1 human for every 2..... wow.....



there wont b a need of abortion if every1 play safe....



nodysseus wrote:

from what i hear the majority of the earth's population growth is coming from countries that arent industrialized. I also hear that population in at least some e.u. countries is actually going down. sounds to me like all we have to do is help undeveloped countries develop (especially birth control)


though the 3rd world countries are breeding like rabbits, their death rate are like their birth rate..... and their infant mortality rate is also high... so i dont c a reason why there is need for control there... and if we make their country industrilized... with their birth rate still this high... they would start breeding tadpoles like frogs...


whaat wrote:

Im suprised at the reponses. First of all for the whole earth wide population control, let me just say that human controlled anything dosent allways go as intended. China for example as a result of tryed population control has a real bad ratio of men to women which borders on the real bad side same thing could happen world wide.

yes, nothing go as predicted... but its better to try than to not try and regret when you cant even try it anymore...



Now another thing was the thought that only smart people should have children, that idea is up there in the dumbest things I've ever herd section of my memories. That idea is based on eugenics which was a failed sceince. Why did it fail? Becouse its a fact that smart people can give birth to a dum child, Its a fact that an athelet can give bitrth to a child unable to do sports, two singers can have a child that cant sing. Eugenics thought that people who steel would bare children that stole, that people with low iq would give birth to dum children.


i know that dumb people can give birth to smart ones...(though the change isnt high) but let me ask.... who are the ones who breed like rabbits?... the smart people? or the dumb ones?....
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I don't think that a democratic government could ever pass a law that would limit the birthrate, but encouraging people to have fewer children is something that must happen. Also encouraging safe sex practices in schools and making birth control regularly available to everyone would help with this, and with abortion rates as well. It kills me when friends of mine tell me that they've always wanted a big family and they're determined to have like seven kids. It's so socially irresponsible. I thought I wanted a big family when I was growing up, but after learning about all of the problems the growing population is having on the world I decided I only wanted one or two kids at most, and if I wanted a larger family to adopt.

As far as the argument about selective breeding, that's ridiculous. Like "whaat" wrote before, it would encourage the same kind of "master race" mentality that caused the holocaust and all sorts of other horrifying social problems. Everyone has the right to reproduce. That is the most natural and basic right we have as living creatures on this earth.
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