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Post Reply Just a ranting of Chapter 73..
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i hope it will be sweeter next chapter..


Ya, right this is the same author who wrote Pradise Kiss. Sweeter? Lets just hope that it is not a bucket of lemons


hey.. i loved paradise kiss!! (>.<) though not the ending.. (T.T)
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XDDD. Gentle water since your going to rant I might as well too. don't worry your not alone I'm obsessed with Nana too.

For me though I despise Reira without even sympathizing with her. One she's pathetic and desperate I never like those type of people. Wait let me correct myself, she pathetic and desperate AND in that process hurts other people which THAT I don't like at ALL. It's true I'm pretty torn whether Hatchi should stay with Takumi. I'm a romantic so I usually say I want those two together, but however in the back of my head I wonder why isn't Hatchi leaving Takumi?

Takumi does ultimately go back to Hatchi everytime. His idea of love is SICK. I agree that he IS a pitiful character. And I wish I NEVER meet someone like him in my entire life. I feel really bad for Hatchi, because I know she deserves more. Takumi doesn't deserve Hatchi, he actually got something more than he ever will WHICH ANNOYS ME BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE ACTUALLY KNOWS THAT MAYBE THATS WHY HE'S TREATING HATCHI LIKE SH*T.

Truth to be told I want to see some dramatic change in Takumi. If he doesn't in the end, I'm gonna be pretty pissed. The whole Handsome and Rich yea that is true, that's how the world really works which is sad. But before the rich, he's got away with it using his looks when he was younger.

I want Reira to go die in a little hole, I don't even feel like being rational with her, because so far I don't even want to consider that she's lonely and what not. Because her way of getting rid of lonliness, I just hate it, it's immoral. I'm actually big on morals, or at least my morals.

And in the present time, If Takumi still cheats on Hatchi (I won't be surprised) I'm going to be pretty angry. Because that just shows that he's a dipsh*t that can't even consider the feelings of his wife and child even after 5-7 years. IMO Takumi needs a wake up call. He needs to know Hatchi can leave him any time she wants too. And truth to be told I think Hatchi CAN live without Takumi it'll be hard but yeah she can pull it off. But Takumi I doubt he can live without her, Hatchi made a huge impact in his life, she gave something that he always yearned for. Which is unconditional true love. Yeah Takumi will go off and still be a playboy, but he will always feel it in his gut that he lost something good if Hatchi leaves him.

Basically Takumi is a god damn sexy sonovab*tch that we all love and hate.



I totally agree with you 100% You and I think alike!!!!
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i don't think the next chapter will be sweet at all. I think the upcoming chapters are going to be full of drama. I think all this is going to accumulate on why Nana O is gonna leave them (the climax of the manga and maybe Ren dies).

i agree with the fact that relationships r complex. I think when takumi first met Reira he did consider her as a sister and his "brotherly" love for her deepened (they're childhood friends, she was there for him when his homelife was falling apart, etc). As a result, Reira was always in this special place for takumi. I think this is his downfall b/c he ended up spoiling Reira ("locking her in the ivory tower, giving in to her greediness by cheating on hachi b/c he doesn't want reira to feel lonely). Oh yeah, I'm sure he had some sexual feelings for her (of course, he's a freakin' playboy, and she's "hot").

i think hachi is his ideal partner though. she doesn't ask for anything from him: only his love (and fidelity). And hachi is willing to do anything for takumi in order to keep him happy (never confronting his infidelities, keeping the house clean, making sure the house has a nice/relaxed atmosphere, good food....i know she sounds like a servant...but hachi loves to do these kind of things). hachi makes takumi feel comfortable. i think deep in his heart, takumi knows that hachi is his true love.

Also, in the beginning of the manga, takumi felt very possessive of hachi (he was extremely jealous when nobu was hanging out with hachi, and he even thought about hachi when he was on tour.). This is interesting b/c he never gave a damn about the girls he slept with.

he needs to quite taking advantage of hachi!! hachi needs to dump his ass! she deserves better. reira is just a greedy little thing that needs to GROW UP. Takumi needs to stop taking hachi for granted.

i think the only ideal soul mate for hachi was nobu.
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Oh yeah, one more thing. that whole reiraxtakumi thing. it was bound to happen sooner or later...w/ all that sexual tension between them/and the history they have...there was still a little part of me that didn't want that to happen but it did. hey it adds flavor to the story (it's too sour in my opinion though)
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i dont pity reira at all


haha me too....
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tinunley wrote:


i hope it will be sweeter next chapter..


Ya, right this is the same author who wrote Pradise Kiss. Sweeter? Lets just hope that it is not a bucket of lemons


hey.. i loved paradise kiss!! (>.<) though not the ending.. (T.T)


the ending is really... depressed o.o;
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so ai yazawa is a sadist??? now am scared that hatchi will get a really bad end... for all who think takumi is trying to soleve everyones problems the right way.... the bastard is the reason why those problems exist in the first place... he took ren from nana, he destroyed almost..shin,... he hasmutilated hatchi so much that she is now my favorite character in nana because she can still hold on to life... he even made naoki who is very simple minded...pimp himself to women to get money for the band in their initial days... but what i hate the most abt him is how flippantly he takes kindness.... that he treats hatchi well annoys me more because thats what tied hatchi down to takumi... hatchi would never love him had he been cruel to her all along.... fact is he is playing with her heart and that breaks my heart, somehow i cannot believe he loves only her and in the future caps its even hinted that he has a kid and prolly lives with reira in england... and doesnt care much abt hatchi,,, of course he still offers to help her... find nana... i mean spare her self respect... i thought there might be room for improvement in takumi... but it has to be something so drastic that the writer has to write it.... that all...
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these things about all the characters in Nana makes it addictive. . . the story is just so addictive. . . i can't wait for the next chapter. . . i don't even know in what way will it end up. . . i hope it'd be a happy ending. . . especially for Hachi and Nana. . .
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so ai yazawa is a sadist??? now am scared that hatchi will get a really bad end... for all who think takumi is trying to soleve everyones problems the right way.... the bastard is the reason why those problems exist in the first place... he took ren from nana, he destroyed almost..shin,... he hasmutilated hatchi so much that she is now my favorite character in nana because she can still hold on to life... he even made naoki who is very simple minded...pimp himself to women to get money for the band in their initial days... but what i hate the most abt him is how flippantly he takes kindness.... that he treats hatchi well annoys me more because thats what tied hatchi down to takumi... hatchi would never love him had he been cruel to her all along.... fact is he is playing with her heart and that breaks my heart, somehow i cannot believe he loves only her and in the future caps its even hinted that he has a kid and prolly lives with reira in england... and doesnt care much abt hatchi,,, of course he still offers to help her... find nana... i mean spare her self respect... i thought there might be room for improvement in takumi... but it has to be something so drastic that the writer has to write it.... that all...



i don’t know why you asked that way… maybe I look at the funnier or lighter side of the story that I missed those disturbing part considering that I’m a huge fan of takumi and hachi. I never thought of her being miserable but more likely she always complain about her situation but the downside is that she never gives takumi an ultimatum or she didn’t do something that will make takumi change maybe because her personality is so opposite of nana if she becomes possessive in a way takumi might change.

Accusing takumi as the root of all the problems, I think that’s bit too harsh… when he met nana he never force her to go out with him it was her choice. He takes the responsibility not because he only cares for the baby but because he fell in love with her from that very short time. You can check those conversations with ren and takumi in the earlier chapter..

And again It wasn’t takumi’s fault for choosing ren to be part of the band it was ren’s decision and he didn’t betray the blast he just follow his own career path. Nana is also to be blame for the messed up of their relationship. Think of nana’s character and the way she loves as shin said she’s scary…

All the vital characters in the story show some flaws and we may only see takumi coz apparently his character is the most transparent. What I really like about this manga is that inspite of all the drama and depressing moments the author can still create some humourus scene and i think that's very clever..

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gitana666 wrote:

so ai yazawa is a sadist??? now am scared that hatchi will get a really bad end... for all who think takumi is trying to soleve everyones problems the right way.... the bastard is the reason why those problems exist in the first place... he took ren from nana, he destroyed almost..shin,... he hasmutilated hatchi so much that she is now my favorite character in nana because she can still hold on to life... he even made naoki who is very simple minded...pimp himself to women to get money for the band in their initial days... but what i hate the most abt him is how flippantly he takes kindness.... that he treats hatchi well annoys me more because thats what tied hatchi down to takumi... hatchi would never love him had he been cruel to her all along.... fact is he is playing with her heart and that breaks my heart, somehow i cannot believe he loves only her and in the future caps its even hinted that he has a kid and prolly lives with reira in england... and doesnt care much abt hatchi,,, of course he still offers to help her... find nana... i mean spare her self respect... i thought there might be room for improvement in takumi... but it has to be something so drastic that the writer has to write it.... that all...



i don’t know why you asked that way… maybe I look at the funnier or lighter side of the story that I missed those disturbing part considering that I’m a huge fan of takumi and hachi. I never thought of her being miserable but more likely she always complain about her situation but the downside is that she never gives takumi an ultimatum or she didn’t do something that will make takumi change maybe because her personality is so opposite of nana if she becomes possessive in a way takumi might change.

Accusing takumi as the root of all the problems, I think that’s bit too harsh… when he met nana he never force her to go out with him it was her choice. He takes the responsibility not because he only cares for the baby but because he fell in love with her from that very short time. You can check those conversations with ren and takumi in the earlier chapter..

And again It wasn’t takumi’s fault for choosing ren to be part of the band it was ren’s decision and he didn’t betray the blast he just follow his own career path. Nana is also to be blame for the messed up of their relationship. Think of nana’s character and the way she loves as shin said she’s scary…

All the vital characters in the story show some flaws and we may only see takumi coz apparently his character is the most transparent. What I really like about this manga is that inspite of all the drama and depressing moments the author can still create some humourus scene and i think that's very clever..




you have a point here.. i had just finished the last chapter and i was so emotional! i dont hate ichinose that much in retrospect...but the fact is that he is that catalyst that sorta brought the worst out of anyone...just because he wouldnt admit to himself that he loves reira?? i guess i feel bad for hatchi most because in the manga they show how obviously he doesnt care for her... i guess it was always an ego issue when hatchi was concerned... he returns her care..but i feel that is the reason hatchi is still so tied down to him because he feels she can change him. and all that would still be all right.... but the reira part is what gets me the most,.... or maybe they have shown the future scenes in manga that way that it seems he discarded hatchi for reira again... but am confused abt that now that i give it some thought... all characters have their flaws... but ichinose is aware but unahsamed about his, unless it concerns reira probably... honestly at first i was rooting for hatchi X nobu...but now i really want ichinose to fall in love with hatchi... jeeezz... that manga has me all worried... just that if u imagine what he did to hatchi,its just unforgivable tht he can be indifferent... and he is, because no matter what hatchi does... however nice he is to her,... the moment she turns her bac its lyc he forgets she ever existed or something... that isnta character trait i admire... at all
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these things about all the characters in Nana makes it addictive. . . the story is just so addictive. . . i can't wait for the next chapter. . . i don't even know in what way will it end up. . . i hope it'd be a happy ending. . . especially for Hachi and Nana. . .


oh i agree too. So far its really hard to tell what will happen in the end...personally...I'm hoping that Takumi and Hachi end up happily married...even though I sort of doubt that, but whatever, we'll see.
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In a sense I doubt that hachi is someone he can forget easily I mean compared to the other women in his life SHE has made the most impact emotionally, physically, and mentally why do you think he uses rough methods to keep her. Even so I'm still rooting for my girl hachi ^_^.
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In a sense I doubt that hachi is someone he can forget easily I mean compared to the other women in his life SHE has made the most impact emotionally, physically, and mentally why do you think he uses rough methods to keep her. Even so I'm still rooting for my girl hachi ^_^.


I agree!
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On another note its not every bloody day you'll meet someone who will TRULY ACCEPT YOU FOR WHO ARE LIKE HACHI I mean she knows whats he thinking and knows he is cheating come you can't just throw someone like that away. That was his problem is entire life b/c he found it difficult to meet people to accept him and if hachi found out about his fuckin affair with reria and still sucked with him than he has to put hachi at an ALTER to have the guts to stick with him all the way through.
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