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Our sex drive is a natural thing. We evolved to have it. This being said, many people assume that, being natural, it must be acceptable. Now, I’m not saying its not, and this isn’t the point of my post. Why do I include it? Because somebody brought up a rather valid point while debating this today.

“Male primates and other animals often attack and forcibly mate with females, typically as a show of dominants. In Human society we know that the major appeal of rape to a rapist is not the sensual zest, but rather the desire for control. Like the primates, from which you believe we came from, we have the desire to harm and humiliate those weaker than us. This is a natural thing. Does that mean it is okay to abuse and force yourself on women?”

Yes, I know my route was indirect. None the less I’ve now come to the point of this thread. Is it okay for men to hit or harm women? Is it in any way worse than hitting or harming other men? Are the times when it is justified?

I thought about it, and I’m…ambivalent at best. There’s that obstinate and ignorant part of me that holds to what is right, just because it’s right. However, I’ve never been one to say that something is right or wrong just because. There has to be a reason.

So I pondered, and here are my shaky answers to the presented question:

1. Is it okay for men to hit women: Typically, no. It’s not okay for men to hit men either. It’s not even appropriate for men to hit animals, or women to hit animals, or women to hit men without good provocation. Even then we should only physically harm people in self defense, and the defense of those who cannot defend themselves. (With some exceptions. Say, disciplining a child.)

2. Yes, in most cases. If this woman is the bloody steroid injecting she hulk then no. However, if we generalize, men have an unfair advantage on women. It’s like hitting a child. The best thing 90% of the woman can do when attacked by men is run or crumple. (Though, there are isolated cases. I bet’cha most of the women in this world can kick the tar out of me… Some women are pretty dang tough.)

3. Times when it’s justified… Yes. Some women just need to be hit. Those stalker bit#ches need to be wiped off the earth. You know those highly jealous psychos who key your car, bust out your windows, and light your appeasement on fire because she thinks you may have possibly cheated? Yeah. They don’t deserve to live any more than the men who ditch their pregnant girls. (I know, it’s harsh, but those words are spoken out of anger toward those kind of people. I don’t really mean it. Things like that just frustrate me.)

Anyway, what do you think?
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Well when I was around 13, I pushed open a door and it hit a girls foot (guess it must have hurt her bad) and she started screaming and hitting me. I was trying to tell her to stop, but when I tasted blood (split my lip) I just punched her in the face. I felt bad, but when they choose to hit you first, you have to reply in kind.

You would be surprized as how many women can fight, just go to my martial arts class.
Posted 9/5/07
Chivalry is dead, violence is taking over. At my school guys are always ready and willing to hit the girls. It goes with the "wanting to be a pimp" thing because on TV, those egotistic turd-brained losers always get what they want. Kids need to learn the difference between what's on the idiotbox and what really happens.

While I agree some women take advantage of the fact that they're not supposed to be slapped by men, boys are taught not to for a reason. It's because boys are naturally stronger (in most cases.) Even I get scared when a boy gets a little too pissed. Without meaning to, they could do a bit more than just slapping them. And for that reason, they're told to keep their hands off women...in a violent way, anyway.
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Flourescent, its a new age, time to learn how to defend yourself.

and chivalry (however you spell it) is not dead - some of us still believe in it
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SeraphAlford wrote:

Our sex drive is a natural thing. We evolved to have it. This being said, many people assume that, being natural, it must be acceptable. Now, I’m not saying its not, and this isn’t the point of my post. Why do I include it? Because somebody brought up a rather valid point while debating this today.

“Male primates and other animals often attack and forcibly mate with females, typically as a show of dominants. In Human society we know that the major appeal of rape to a rapist is not the sensual zest, but rather the desire for control. Like the primates, from which you believe we came from, we have the desire to harm and humiliate those weaker than us. This is a natural thing. Does that mean it is okay to abuse and force yourself on women?”

Yes, I know my route was indirect. None the less I’ve now come to the point of this thread. Is it okay for men to hit or harm women? Is it in any way worse than hitting or harming other men? Are the times when it is justified?

I thought about it, and I’m…ambivalent at best. There’s that obstinate and ignorant part of me that holds to what is right, just because it’s right. However, I’ve never been one to say that something is right or wrong just because. There has to be a reason.

So I pondered, and here are my shaky answers to the presented question:

1. Is it okay for men to hit women: Typically, no. It’s not okay for men to hit men either. It’s not even appropriate for men to hit animals, or women to hit animals, or women to hit men without good provocation. Even then we should only physically harm people in self defense, and the defense of those who cannot defend themselves. (With some exceptions. Say, disciplining a child.)

2. Yes, in most cases. If this woman is the bloody steroid injecting she hulk then no. However, if we generalize, men have an unfair advantage on women. It’s like hitting a child. The best thing 90% of the woman can do when attacked by men is run or crumple. (Though, there are isolated cases. I bet’cha most of the women in this world can kick the tar out of me… Some women are pretty dang tough.)

3. Times when it’s justified… Yes. Some women just need to be hit. Those stalker bit#ches need to be wiped off the earth. You know those highly jealous psychos who key your car, bust out your windows, and light your appeasement on fire because she thinks you may have possibly cheated? Yeah. They don’t deserve to live any more than the men who ditch their pregnant girls. (I know, it’s harsh, but those words are spoken out of anger toward those kind of people. I don’t really mean it. Things like that just frustrate me.)

Anyway, what do you think?


Well.... That was both informative and amusing.
I don't think a man should hit a woman. The only exception would be if she tries to seriously kill you.
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is a chick bullying u seraph?

alright heres wat u gotta do, if a chick is punching u etc, put up ur right fist open like ur gripping a basketball with one hand

then u push with ur right hand onto her boobs, then shell stop... or hit u more... but prolly stop

remember dunt grab, just push, cant get in trouble with harrasement haha just say u were pushing her away
Posted 9/5/07

MidnightTide wrote:

Flourescent, its a new age, time to learn how to defend yourself.

and chivalry (however you spell it) is not dead - some of us still believe in it


It doesnt matter how many decades go by, it's never acceptable to hit a woman outside of some arena.

Yeah, some of you believe in it. Not enough of you.

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no matter what the female do to me.. i wont not hit her.. but that doesn't mean i wont defend myself.

but still, i will not hit a woman. never.
Posted 9/5/07
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Posted 9/5/07
If she hits him then he has the right to hit her back.

No, if he's starting it...

It all depends really
Posted 9/5/07

kakashisan23 wrote:

If the female is a bitch, and hits me first, i refuse to not hit back, i mean you dont hit someone and expect not to get hit back, but i would never hit a female just like that, unless im just playing with them.


even if a female was to hit me I wouldnt hit her back,
only through extreme situations would I have to plant her
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Posted 9/5/07
Bah, I take back what I said =_= damn I hate doing that.

Boys are humans who can only hold back for so long, just like everyone else.

I just wish the dudes at my school would try a little harder to.
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If I'm pissed off and she hits me, hell I'll hit/push back. Don't mess with a Hokie when he's pissed >:3
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LOL....I guess you people never had a female really go at you before (as I mentioned in my previous post)

When you get punched at so many times, you are going to hit back, or do something to stop getting hit.

Flourescent: your likely going to have to wait a few more years, they are still kids
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Its more like an expression when a female hits a male, not actually meant to cause physical pain. If a female is keying your car, stalking you, or taking a crap on your front lawn...then thats what the authorities are for. If a guy takes care of it himself by punching her lights out or giving her a slap to the face, then its his fault for not doing the sensible thing. ^^'

Gahh, I hate seeing guys at my school hit or punch girls, even if they mean it to be funny. A friendly slap on the back can easily turn into a slap to the face if you get allow yourself to get that comfortable with someones little signs of abusive behavior. x]

I agree with Flourescent. Men are generally stronger then females, so when men can't control their anger and turn to violence...it hurts. Even if they don't really intend for it to.
Everyone should learn to control their anger, but guys especially because they can do more damage.
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