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Over Throwing the Government
Posted 8/29/12

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karmacide wrote:

You work an I/T job 8 hours a day and your bitching? Get real. I don't give a damn how much your managers suck, you have it better than most Americans.


This ^^^ would only matter as long as I have it better than YOU because that would make my night.

Back on topic: I thought more about it, screw it, let's just have a revolution and at least then we'll be pissing off someone and that would make my night for the entirety of the New Order.


Sorry to disappoint you, I make it a point to live my life in a way that I am never in a situation where I 'can't' quit, so no matter how hard I work it's by choice. Most people don't, and are in a situation like you are, except they have even shittier jobs and work longer hours. Grow a pair, you got yourself into that mess, no use blaming your managers for it.


I probably work a shittier job, but I'm also rooting for guys in higher positions than me, as well as those who work shittier jobs than I do, to get their due and treated properly. I think that's the whole point here. To say "just be happy with how you're being screwed because there are people working shittier jobs" is a piss poor attitude and the entire system that's broken with no appropriate rewards stays broken for everyone except for those doing the screwing.
Posted 8/29/12

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I probably work a shittier job, but I'm also rooting for guys in higher positions than me, as well as those who work shittier jobs than I do, to get their due and treated properly. I think that's the whole point here. To say "just be happy with how you're being screwed because there are people working shittier jobs" is a piss poor attitude and the entire system that's broken with no appropriate rewards stays broken for everyone except for those doing the screwing.


I'm not going to apologize for telling someone to be grateful for what they have. If you don't want to be a slave to the broken system then learn to live with less. Or find another job. Or just deal with it and trade your dignity for luxury. I don't care, but don't expect me to be sympathetic when they start bitching about it. Too many Americans have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. 'No appropriate rewards?' Americans live better than almost every other nation in the world. And it is a piss poor attitude to tell people to stop complaining about it? You guys are the ones with the wrong attitude.
Posted 8/29/12

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spermaceti wrote:

I probably work a shittier job, but I'm also rooting for guys in higher positions than me, as well as those who work shittier jobs than I do, to get their due and treated properly. I think that's the whole point here. To say "just be happy with how you're being screwed because there are people working shittier jobs" is a piss poor attitude and the entire system that's broken with no appropriate rewards stays broken for everyone except for those doing the screwing.


I'm not going to apologize for telling someone to be grateful for what they have. If you don't want to be a slave to the broken system then learn to live with less. Or find another job. Or just deal with it and trade your dignity for luxury. I don't care, but don't expect me to be sympathetic when they start bitching about it. Too many Americans have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. 'No appropriate rewards?' Americans live better than almost every other nation in the world. And it is a piss poor attitude to tell people to stop complaining about it? You guys are the ones with the wrong attitude.


But this isn't necessarily about being grateful with what you have, it's about fixing issues within the system regardless what job level you're at. Whether it's someone who earns six figures but is unable to get any vacation time or weekends off, or if it is a custodial job with no benefits or chance of overtime, there's a variety of unreasonable conditions placed on every job level. I'm not sure how many countries you lived in or how long you've had a career, so I won't go into it, but why are you only targeting Americans? Not all of us are Americans here and it's not only an American issue.
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I'm sorry, this isn't going to be a relevant post, but because I read your title this way, here goes.

You're over throwing something called the Government? It's good that you got over that...

The Government is just too damned big to throw, let alone hold in your hand and peer at contemptuously.

To the point, politics at its crux is a superposition between logic and lunacy...
more so the latter than the former these days.

1) If they begin to institute Martial Law and Thought Police
(Even though some thoughts might be better controlled, I know the risks).
2) If they initiate a plan to forcibly reduce populations semi-openly (That most, but not all know about).
3) If Government deliberately mediated and devised hyperinflation, open war for conquest alone...
Detention for "Pre-crime."
4) Mandatory conscription, and the age of conscription skirted around with to make younger cannon fodder.
5) Nazis and their resurgent collapse of all powers into a anti-Semitic state of State-controlled euthanasia
(my Grandfather is 95).
6) Obliteration of all fundamental human rights and freedoms,
a practice which is taking place somewhere in the world at all times.

Also, your resolution letter H works for me as well. Those are all pretty nasty situations.
Posted 8/29/12

spermaceti wrote:


karmacide wrote:


spermaceti wrote:

I probably work a shittier job, but I'm also rooting for guys in higher positions than me, as well as those who work shittier jobs than I do, to get their due and treated properly. I think that's the whole point here. To say "just be happy with how you're being screwed because there are people working shittier jobs" is a piss poor attitude and the entire system that's broken with no appropriate rewards stays broken for everyone except for those doing the screwing.


I'm not going to apologize for telling someone to be grateful for what they have. If you don't want to be a slave to the broken system then learn to live with less. Or find another job. Or just deal with it and trade your dignity for luxury. I don't care, but don't expect me to be sympathetic when they start bitching about it. Too many Americans have an unreasonable sense of entitlement. 'No appropriate rewards?' Americans live better than almost every other nation in the world. And it is a piss poor attitude to tell people to stop complaining about it? You guys are the ones with the wrong attitude.


But this isn't necessarily about being grateful with what you have, it's about fixing issues within the system regardless what job level you're at. Whether it's someone who earns six figures but is unable to get any vacation time or weekends off, or if it is a custodial job with no benefits or chance of overtime, there's a variety of unreasonable conditions placed on every job level. I'm not sure how many countries you lived in or how long you've had a career, so I won't go into it, but why are you only targeting Americans? Not all of us are Americans here and it's not only an American issue.


You're right, it's not about being grateful for what you have, or taking control of your own life. It is much better to constantly complain about things that we can't control instead. I don't know what I was thinking.

I was targeting Americans because I'm an American, I was talking to an American, and every day I listen to Americans complain about how they have to go to a job they don't want to work at to pay the bills.

As long there are more people than there are jobs, the terms aren't going to be great. There is always someone that is more than willing to take the job you have. That's capitalism, there's no fixing that. You can't fix it for everyone anyway. If you want to fix it for yourself, find a job you consider reasonable. It might help to make yourself valuable so that they wouldn't want to treat you like crap. Or find a unionized place to work, but I can tell you from experience that they will only do so much. Otherwise, just deal with it. It's the world we live in. Make the best of it. Stop complaining. Be grateful for what you have, or change your lifestyle to where you can be grateful. I don't see what is difficult about that. Take initiative in your own life, because as much fun as it is to dream of a revolution that will lead to a utopian democracy that is all flowers and sunshine, it's not going to happen.
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Posted 8/29/12 , edited 8/29/12
Hell. Fucking. No.


First off, I don't care enough to do so.

Secondly, rebellions are the most stupid thing that mankind has had the gall to come up with. I think rebellions are the easy, lazy way to try to change something. I prefer when people actually decide to work their way into the system and change it from the inside. It is always possible if you care enough about your cause. If that doesn't work it means you don't give enough of a fuck. This is why I do can't enjoy Code Geass.

The first post is pretty irrelevant. I mean honestly, what the chance of all the stuff mention actually happening?


Plus, it's more fun to watch and provoke a rebellion from the sidelines.

Posted 8/29/12
I don't care about the government nor do I care about any one of you.
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I don't care about the government nor do I care about any one of you.


I care about you, you big meanie!

Now then to be on topic.

I doubt I'd rebel against the government, I'm simply too lazy to really give a damn about too much involving politics, regardless of their impact on my life. Now then, if they start making work and death camps for people, turning the country into one of those mining towns where no one could afford to do anything but mine coal, or roving death squads who overreact immediately/martial law, then perhaps I would. Chances of those happening are somewhat slim, but if they do, I guess I can put up with the several years of anarchy and fiefdoms until a new government can come out of the ashes and do the same shit all over again. *Plays Won't Get Fooled Again by The Who*
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First the Government then the WOOOORLD!!!!
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Posted 8/29/12
A: They are always corrupt.
B: They have no right to tell us what we can/can't do. (They are just humans like us. Not gods!)
C: They don't give a fuck about us. They are only interested in helping us because otherwise we would get mad and threaten their power. And "governments are not interested in ANYTHING ELSE THEN KEEPING AND EXPANDING THEIR OWN POWER!!!" -George Carlin.
D: Read A.
E: Read C.
Posted 8/31/12
Politics?
Posted 9/1/12


Not sure if I should point out that the food in your profile looks like the sperm in your name.
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Posted 9/1/12
if i had enough rebellious pawns, i wouldn't mind taking over the government right now. it's not very good now anyway.
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Posted 9/1/12

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Hell. Fucking. No.


First off, I don't care enough to do so.

Secondly, rebellions are the most stupid thing that mankind has had the gall to come up with. I think rebellions are the easy, lazy way to try to change something. I prefer when people actually decide to work their way into the system and change it from the inside. It is always possible if you care enough about your cause. If that doesn't work it means you don't give enough of a fuck. This is why I do can't enjoy Code Geass.

The first post is pretty irrelevant. I mean honestly, what the chance of all the stuff mention actually happening?


Plus, it's more fun to watch and provoke a rebellion from the sidelines.



American revolution was stupid?

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Posted 9/1/12

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polx wrote:

Hell. Fucking. No.


First off, I don't care enough to do so.

Secondly, rebellions are the most stupid thing that mankind has had the gall to come up with. I think rebellions are the easy, lazy way to try to change something. I prefer when people actually decide to work their way into the system and change it from the inside. It is always possible if you care enough about your cause. If that doesn't work it means you don't give enough of a fuck. This is why I do can't enjoy Code Geass.

The first post is pretty irrelevant. I mean honestly, what the chance of all the stuff mention actually happening?


Plus, it's more fun to watch and provoke a rebellion from the sidelines.



American revolution was stupid?


Sure.

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