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Who here think the Final Fantasy series was messed up?
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Well to tell u the truth I believe the Final Fantasy series was messed up in the end. Like from Final Fantasy 10 and up for me it messed up the Final Fantasy series for many reason. Like in Final Fantasy 10 .. I didn't like the fact the Summons were being controlled by human like all the way. I believe summons shouldn't be commanded on what they are told to do. Like in Final Fantasy 7 summons were being controlled but it wasn't control control like in FF10 ... summons suppose to be like god they shouldn't be told what to do and shouldn't risk their life to protect u like in FF10. Also I didn't like the way they made some summon look .. like Bahamut he was to cocky, Ifrit they made him look like a midget, shiva had dredlock .. I meanm come on they could have kept it original. BTW summons weren't hard to get ..if u just saw a temple then u just will know not to leave it till u get a summon ...wow ain't that obvious. FF1-9 are way better than 10 and up. Sorry my opinion...So who else is with me?
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Well to tell u the truth I believe the Final Fantasy series was messed up in the end. Like from Final Fantasy 10 and up for me it messed up the Final Fantasy series for many reason. Like in Final Fantasy 10 .. I didn't like the fact the Summons were being controlled by human like all the way. I believe summons shouldn't be commanded on what they are told to do. Like in final Fantasy 7 summons were being controlled but it was control control like in FF10 ... summons suppose to be like god they shouldn't be told what to do and shouldn't risk their life to protect u like in FF10. Also I didn't like the way they made some summon look .. like Bahamut he was to cocky, Ifrit they made him look like a midget, shiva had dredlock .. I meanm come on they could have kept it original. BTW summons weren't hard to get ..if u just saw a temple then u just will know not to leave it till u get a summon ...wow ain't that aboviouv. FF1-9 are way better than 10 and up. Sorry my opinion...So who else is with me?


if you want vague control, you havent goten the magus sisters have you? all the're comands are like Attack! and use magic! or defend! and I love the series I think the summons are just fine
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popcornpuffs wrote:

Well to tell u the truth I believe the Final Fantasy series was messed up in the end. Like from Final Fantasy 10 and up for me it messed up the Final Fantasy series for many reason. Like in Final Fantasy 10 .. I didn't like the fact the Summons were being controlled by human like all the way. I believe summons shouldn't be commanded on what they are told to do. Like in final Fantasy 7 summons were being controlled but it was control control like in FF10 ... summons suppose to be like god they shouldn't be told what to do and shouldn't risk their life to protect u like in FF10. Also I didn't like the way they made some summon look .. like Bahamut he was to cocky, Ifrit they made him look like a midget, shiva had dredlock .. I meanm come on they could have kept it original. BTW summons weren't hard to get ..if u just saw a temple then u just will know not to leave it till u get a summon ...wow ain't that aboviouv. FF1-9 are way better than 10 and up. Sorry my opinion...So who else is with me?


if you want vague control, you havent goten the magus sisters have you? all the're comands are like Attack! and use magic! or defend! and I love the series I think the summons are just fine

I played Final Fantasy 10 but got so annoyed by it .. that I just stoped playing it. Just got tired of EVERYTHING.

Posted 3/21/08
lol well i didn't like final fantasy 10 either... what happened to the tough guys as main characters? i mean u used to play with cloud or squall 'slash first ask questions later' zidane i could understand a bit becuz of the scenery in ff9 but tidus wuzzzz sooo lame, vaan isn't any better on that point.... i didn't like ff12 either kinda becuz of that new fighting system and with the gambits u never need to do anything... u just walk to a group of enemies and u can leave...
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I like it the way it is...the summoners in final fantasy X weren't forced to summon, they chose to do their job. Nothings wrong with it, HA, you just gotta train your charaters....lol
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lol well i didn't like final fantasy 10 either... what happened to the tough guys as main characters? i mean u used to play with cloud or squall 'slash first ask questions later' zidane i could understand a bit becuz of the scenery in ff9 but tidus wuzzzz sooo lame, vaan isn't any better on that point.... i didn't like ff12 either kinda becuz of that new fighting system and with the gambits u never need to do anything... u just walk to a group of enemies and u can leave...

Haha xD So true .. Tidus was lame. He had to be the lamest out of all the FFs main character series. FF12 didn't like either. Basicall ff10 and up lol
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I like it the way it is...the summoners in final fantasy X weren't forced to summon, they chose to do their job. Nothings wrong with it, HA, you just gotta train your charaters....lol

Chose to do their job? ...They were more like force to do their job. Anyway the whole idea was dumb .. In that game they had prollly like 50 shiva, 50 ifrit and etc. ... that just dumb. They should have kept it original. Anybody who was a summoner had the same summon as u .. and they were alot os summon er who knows they were prolly more than 100 of the same summon.

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here is a thought,......get over it. they suck???? yes......
but what can you do???? all that you can do now is hoping FFXIII don't suck, lol
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Overlord9 wrote:

lol well i didn't like final fantasy 10 either... what happened to the tough guys as main characters? i mean u used to play with cloud or squall 'slash first ask questions later' zidane i could understand a bit becuz of the scenery in ff9 but tidus wuzzzz sooo lame, vaan isn't any better on that point.... i didn't like ff12 either kinda becuz of that new fighting system and with the gambits u never need to do anything... u just walk to a group of enemies and u can leave...

Haha xD So true .. Tidus was lame. He had to be the lamest out of all the FFs main character series. FF12 didn't like either. Basicall ff10 and up lol


7 FTW!!!! XD and maybe 13 = buttonbashing all the way
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naduo wrote:

here is a thought,......get over it. they suck???? yes......
but what can you do???? all that you can do now is hoping FFXIII don't suck, lol

Haha lol I doubt that'll happen xD

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i find it to have more control over my summons rather then just a plain cutscene and some dmg.
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Well, on 10, it does kinda suck in a sense. But to change the topic from summons...
On FFX, anyone ever max out a char w/ their ultimate weapons, and just use Hastega and Quick Hit for an hour or two on a boss?
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Hmm so basically you are saying you did not want the games to evolve any and try new things?

You critique FF-X because the summons were easy to get? Umm hello what could be easier to get than buying your summons or finding them on the ground? We cannot forget about the Draw system implemented in FF-VIII. FF-IX made it a little challenging in the sense you had to find the accessory. What about all the previous final fantasy games that treated the summons as regular magic? You must not have played FF-XII yet. Because in order to obtain summons in that game you have to fight a very difficult boss battle. I mean they are EXTREMELY difficult, unless you are like Lvl 100.

As for the whole control thing, well I thought it was an interesting edition. It makes sense though, who would want to summon something that you have no control over? In reality this was just an elaboration of the control you already had over your summons. If you had no control, in the previous games. You would not want to use the summons much because you run the risk of them attacking you because they are gods, and they are pissed that you bothered them.

As for the actions of the various summons? Well I think that they hit the hammer on the head with the various summons. Plus there is the whole cultural thing to take into consideration. Remember Japan views the world very differently than we do here in the west.


I am sorry FF-X and beyond have sucked for you, FF-XI sucked in general. But be happy because there is a good chance that FF will cease to be after FF-XIII. What with the main director guy wanting to only focus on the KH franchise.
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Hmm so basically you are saying you did not want the games to evolve any and try new things?

You critique FF-X because the summons were easy to get? Umm hello what could be easier to get than buying your summons or finding them on the ground? We cannot forget about the Draw system implemented in FF-VIII. FF-IX made it a little challenging in the sense you had to find the accessory. What about all the previous final fantasy games that treated the summons as regular magic? You must not have played FF-XII yet. Because in order to obtain summons in that game you have to fight a very difficult boss battle. I mean they are EXTREMELY difficult, unless you are like Lvl 100.

As for the whole control thing, well I thought it was an interesting edition. It makes sense though, who would want to summon something that you have no control over? In reality this was just an elaboration of the control you already had over your summons. If you had no control, in the previous games. You would not want to use the summons much because you run the risk of them attacking you because they are gods, and they are pissed that you bothered them.

As for the actions of the various summons? Well I think that they hit the hammer on the head with the various summons. Plus there is the whole cultural thing to take into consideration. Remember Japan views the world very differently than we do here in the west.


I am sorry FF-X and beyond have sucked for you, FF-XI sucked in general. But be happy because there is a good chance that FF will cease to be after FF-XIII. What with the main director guy wanting to only focus on the KH franchise.


Yes but like for me FFX messedthe series for me from he start. Don't u hate that they are prolly like friken 100s of shive, ifrit, bahumut and etc in that game. They're should only be one type of summon in the game .. not like 50 summons of the same kind.
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Yes but like for me FFX messedthe series for me from he start. Don't u hate that they are prolly like friken 100s of shive, ifrit, bahumut and etc in that game. They're should only be one type of summon in the game .. not like 50 summons of the same kind.

Ok from what I could understand of that post. There is only one of every summon in that game, one Shiva, one Ifrit, one Bahumut. They each have their own individual class and elements. Second off there is only 8 or 9 summons total in FFX. FFVII was the one that had closer to 30.
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