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Posted 3/22/08 , edited 4/18/08

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I think you shouldn't ask people about it.. Instead "ASK YOURSELF".. and you'll know the answer...


That is really stupid. I have asked myself about the god question a lot. I want to hear other people opinions. I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit. Maybe someone will change my mind. Your post is an epic fail.


Oh as stupid as your TOPIC.. Neh? Anyways you got your answer... YOu asked yourself but you don't believe GOD. Then no point asking others cos at the first place you didn't believe at all.. Such stupidity of yours exist huh?


Read his reply, he did say " Maybe someone will change my mind ", so I don't think that he necessarily disbelieves, just that needs the prove.


OH Yeah as if his replies has a chance of changing read "I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit"

You cannot prove a thing to a person who doesn't believe. Whatever reasons you give a person as long as your not open into such topics they really won't believe.
Posted 3/22/08 , edited 4/18/08

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I'm here aren't I? Shit isn't that enough?


xD Good one.


.. This topic is sooo useless. It'll def. bring out our little preachers in here once again @_@
And umm.. wtf, there's no point?..
God exists only to those who believe. Just bcos you can't see something doesn't mean it's not* there. Like, there's oxygen.. People can't see it but they believe in it? Nawmeen?

We can test to see if oxygen is there using instruments. We know a lot about. Not really comparable cases.



Well, let's see "smart one". In the Bible there are historical "Holy" places right?.. Well they're also real in the "Real World". What about hope, love? Hm? We can't see them, but everyone knows it's out there.


The bible was written by man Of course they must've been alive at that time, but that doesn't prove that a mystical being ever existed. You're actually saying that because that person who wrote it wrote what he wrote, it must be true. The bible and god may or may not be true, we won't know until we get 'Real' prove, not just written words by another man --most humans are liars out of greed or selfishness.


That's true, but still. Why are there so many believers then?.. Anyway, FU! Jks! [: I'm not gonna be like that jerk Mangus.. or whatever the f--- his name is [x Urgh, he's flaming every person who responds! (: Nah, I'm nice just hot-tempered..
Believe what you all wanna believe. I'm not some person who'll force you to believe that there IS a God. I'm not gonna turn out like those CR preachers @_@


Ya lol, but even someone as he should have a chance to speak his mind and tell us what he thinks. If for some reason someone doesn't agree with him, just say 'you' don't agree, and don't go on and making it a flame war. Can't we have a discussion without flaming?


Yeah, I believe we can have a discussion without flaming. But the way he replies is like this, "Well go suck your fucking mom's fucking dick.." Blahblah, he didn't ACTUALLY say that but he doesn't need to cuss and be so vulgar. >.>
Cos this pregnant woman's not having it! *snaps &shakes head from side to side* [x


lol, well ya that's his problem XD, at this point I'm just taking it from his questions and the replies people give, especially at the opening of his thread, everyone just started flaming without answering the question :D.


True that yo! Jks! I won't do that again! Haha. But yeah, I wasnt being mean.. I just didn't like how he said, "You WILL fail!" Mimi conquers all, BITCH! Haha jks! If you know people will fail at answering the topic question, then why bring it up anyway, nawmeen?
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I AM GOD.
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lestat85 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:


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kinchin123 wrote:

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I think you shouldn't ask people about it.. Instead "ASK YOURSELF".. and you'll know the answer...


That is really stupid. I have asked myself about the god question a lot. I want to hear other people opinions. I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit. Maybe someone will change my mind. Your post is an epic fail.


Oh as stupid as your TOPIC.. Neh? Anyways you got your answer... YOu asked yourself but you don't believe GOD. Then no point asking others cos at the first place you didn't believe at all.. Such stupidity of yours exist huh?


Read his reply, he did say " Maybe someone will change my mind ", so I don't think that he necessarily disbelieves, just that needs the prove.


OH Yeah as if his replies has a chance of changing read "I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit"

Oh yeah you cannot prove a thing to a person who doesn't believe. Whatever reasons you give a person as long as your not open they really won't believe.


Opinions opinions, we all have them, just because he says that does it mean all religion are what he says? We have to learn to control that temper and not let what others say affect your anger feelings.
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Since this thread is still here, I guess I'll put a real answer.

Honestly, I say there is no way to prove that there is a God. The closest thing to "proof" is the Bible, but that alone won't convince most people (It didn't convince me). All I can say is, if you want any proof that he is real, I guess you can believe and pray and all that other stuff. Maybe good things will happen to you. <___<
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ok guys lets just think....

When you see a bridge, a building or an automobile, you automatically consider the person or company that constructed it. When you see a large ship, an airplane, a rocket, a satellite; you also think about how incredible it is. [You know by its design who the maker is.] When you see a super international airport, nuclear plant or an orbiting space station you have to be thoroughly impressed with the engineering dynamics that are involved. Yet, these are just things that are manufactured by human beings. So what about the human body with its massive and intricate control systems? Think about it. Think about the brain: how it thinks, functions, analyzes, retrieves and stores information, as well as distinguishes and categorizes information in a millionth of a second, all of this constantly. Think about the brain for a moment. (And don't forget the fact that you are using your brain to consider itself!) This is the brain that made the automobile, the rocket ships, the boats, and so on. Think about the brain and who made that! Think about the heart. Think about how it pumps continuously for sixty or seventy years [taking in and discharging blood throughout the body] maintaining steady precision throughout the life of the person. Think about the kidneys and the liver and the various functions they perform. The purifying instruments of the body that perform hundreds of chemical analyses simultaneously and also controls the level of toxicity in the content of the body. All of these are done automatically. Think about your eyes, the human cameras, that adjust, focus, interpret, evaluate, discern color automatically, naturally receiving and adjusting to light and distance.Think about it-Who created them? Who has mastered their design and function? Who plans and regulates their function? Human beings do this? No, of course not. What about this universe? Think about this. This earth is one planet in our solar system, and our solar system is one [of possible many] solar systems. Our galaxy, The Milky Way, is one of the galaxies. There are ONE HUNDRED MILLION GALAXIES in the universe. They are all in order and they are all precise. They are not colliding with each other. They are not conflicting with on another. They are swimming along in an orbit that has been set for them. Did human beings set that into motion and are human beings maintaining that precision? No, of course not.Think about the oceans, the fish, the insects, the birds, the plants, bacteria, and chemical elements that have not yet been discovered and cannot be detected even with the most sophisticated instruments. Yet each of them has a law that they follow. Did all of this synchronization, balance, harmony, variation, design, maintenance, operation and infinite numeration happen all by chance? Do these things function perfectly and perpetually also by chance? No, of course not. That would be totally illogical and foolish. In the least, it indicates that however it came to exist-it exists beyond the realm of human capability. We will all agree to that. The Being, The Almighty Power, God, The Creator who has the knowledge to design and proportion created all of this and is responsible for maintaining it.











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kinchin123 wrote:


lestat85 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:


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kinchin123 wrote:

@ Magnus

I think you shouldn't ask people about it.. Instead "ASK YOURSELF".. and you'll know the answer...


That is really stupid. I have asked myself about the god question a lot. I want to hear other people opinions. I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit. Maybe someone will change my mind. Your post is an epic fail.


Oh as stupid as your TOPIC.. Neh? Anyways you got your answer... YOu asked yourself but you don't believe GOD. Then no point asking others cos at the first place you didn't believe at all.. Such stupidity of yours exist huh?


Read his reply, he did say " Maybe someone will change my mind ", so I don't think that he necessarily disbelieves, just that needs the prove.


OH Yeah as if his replies has a chance of changing read "I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit"

Oh yeah you cannot prove a thing to a person who doesn't believe. Whatever reasons you give a person as long as your not open they really won't believe.


Opinions opinions, we all have them, just because he says that does it mean all religion are what he says? We have to learn to control that temper and not let what others say affect your anger feelings.


No.No.No.. I didn't answer bcoz Im angry it was a kind of logic. Its true we give out opinions so aren't you the one not respecting my opinion. he has a topic I gave out my opinion and here you are saying my opinions is wrong.. Opinions are meant to be respected isn't it?

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it is not something that has been proved or disproved therefore it is best just to hold your beliefs until you can be sure either way so.... i will not say god does exist or that it doesn't exist cause no one can be sure
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I find Topics like these to be very interesting, until the flaming begins lol. There is a great one in Imeem in which there was a guy like him, flaming others and stood by his decision. Until this other guy came ( he was super intellectual and philosophical, but he also stood no grounds as to god existing or not.)


Truth is, there is no prove as to say that god exists, as there is also no prove to say that god doesn't exist.
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lestat85 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:


lestat85 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:


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kinchin123 wrote:

@ Magnus

I think you shouldn't ask people about it.. Instead "ASK YOURSELF".. and you'll know the answer...


That is really stupid. I have asked myself about the god question a lot. I want to hear other people opinions. I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit. Maybe someone will change my mind. Your post is an epic fail.


Oh as stupid as your TOPIC.. Neh? Anyways you got your answer... YOu asked yourself but you don't believe GOD. Then no point asking others cos at the first place you didn't believe at all.. Such stupidity of yours exist huh?


Read his reply, he did say " Maybe someone will change my mind ", so I don't think that he necessarily disbelieves, just that needs the prove.


OH Yeah as if his replies has a chance of changing read "I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit"

Oh yeah you cannot prove a thing to a person who doesn't believe. Whatever reasons you give a person as long as your not open they really won't believe.


Opinions opinions, we all have them, just because he says that does it mean all religion are what he says? We have to learn to control that temper and not let what others say affect your anger feelings.


No.No.No.. I didn't answer bcoz Im angry it was a kind of logic. Its true we give out opinions so aren't you the one not respecting my opinion. he has a topic I gave out my opinion and here you are saying my opinions is wrong.. Opinions are meant to be respected isn't it?



I don't recall ever disagreeing with your opinion :P.
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Ya lol, but even someone as he should have a chance to speak his mind and tell us what he thinks. If for some reason someone doesn't agree with him, just say 'you' don't agree, and don't go on and making it a flame war. Can't we have a discussion without flaming?


Sadly this is not possible in a thread like this, because:
1. The thread is offensive and will most likely upset some people.
2. The thread maker is not neutral which shouldn't be a problem but in this case he's provoking the ones that believes in a god.
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God is that in which nothing greater can be thought, therefore even humans, as smart as we may be, cannot fully comprehend God. Yeah...I'm not really proving anything, am I?
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kinchin123 wrote:


lestat85 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


kinchin123 wrote:

@ Magnus

I think you shouldn't ask people about it.. Instead "ASK YOURSELF".. and you'll know the answer...


That is really stupid. I have asked myself about the god question a lot. I want to hear other people opinions. I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit. Maybe someone will change my mind. Your post is an epic fail.


Oh as stupid as your TOPIC.. Neh? Anyways you got your answer... YOu asked yourself but you don't believe GOD. Then no point asking others cos at the first place you didn't believe at all.. Such stupidity of yours exist huh?


Read his reply, he did say " Maybe someone will change my mind ", so I don't think that he necessarily disbelieves, just that needs the prove.


OH Yeah as if his replies has a chance of changing read "I think personally think all religion is a crock of shit"

You cannot prove a thing to a person who doesn't believe. Whatever reasons you give a person as long as your not open into such topics they really won't believe.


I am open to being shown real proof of god. At the moment I know of none and think religion is shit. It simple. Now tell me what compelling reasons you have for your faith.



Yah.. I did answer. I said ask yourself.. If you'll ask yourself why did I exist.. Whats my purpose of existing. Why are this things happening the answer to prove God really depends on your own answer. Let me say it straight. If we said this things proves GOD blah blah and it didn't convinced you still your no way to believe what they said was true. Now if you ask yourself at least there's a small chance you'll get a GooD answer..
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Ya lol, but even someone as he should have a chance to speak his mind and tell us what he thinks. If for some reason someone doesn't agree with him, just say 'you' don't agree, and don't go on and making it a flame war. Can't we have a discussion without flaming?


Sadly this is not possible in a thread like this, because:
1. The thread is offensive and will most likely upset some people.
2. The thread maker is not neutral which shouldn't be a problem but in this case he's provoking the ones that believes in a god.


First of all, those who truly believe in their beliefs shouldn't get upset because someone is challenging their religion. Simply state that that is what you belief, there doesn't have to be a reason to why you believe in what you belief, but give a reason or opinion if you have one.

Even though he is towards one side, that is what makes the discussion interesting. If we were all to be for something, wouldn't that be kinda boring? We should try and see what each of us knows about the topic and give individual opinions.

My overall statement is that we do not really know. So therefore I will not pray for something that I do not know really exist until proven otherwise. I doubt that if there was a god, he/she/it would want people to be praying for him/her/it everyday to save them of their misery, the poor thing would go crazy wont you agree?

Anyways standing by my neutral side, I do like seeing replies to topics like these, positive ones that is.
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ok guys lets just think....









Your arguement is riddled with problems. You start off by saying that we will conclude that that a ship or a rocket is designed when we see it. That is not really a universal truth. A primitive man might come upon those things and think they are natural animals. Compared to the nature of biological organisms machines are actually not that complex. But you are claiming that we would know it was different. Then go on to claim that everything obviously has to have been designed. Your rather silly analogy is thus contradictory on a basic level. In the analogy, the differences between the natural objects and the human artifact is what makes an observer conclude that the latter has been designed. How then, can we conclude that rocks, the natural systems of the body, grass and indeed the whole universe is created by a Designer as well?

Why would we conclude that a rocket is designed?


You also ignore the logical conclusion of this arguement. If the universe has to have a designer because it is complex than god would also have to have a designer as he would have to be complex to create the universe



Finally evolution shows how we got so complex quite nicely .



Great point :P, I claim Hydrogen as the ultimate creator known as God XD.

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Its called faith. I personally do not believe in God, though if something were to happen in my life that takes me down that path, i will gladly become a believer. Though it is based on faith, so if you personally do not have faith do not go bashing other people because they do belive. Prove evolution, or relativity. They are Theories and so is religion. This thread obviously states your bias and makes believers out to be idiots.
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