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Posted 3/31/08
hmmm...i wonder how many people are Rido sama fan.
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HEHEH- well I AM a Kaname fan all the way, i just have two categories (in my mind that is XD):
hero and vilain and that gives= Kaname and Rido
but the reincarnation theory from miskat is really good, i mean for Kaname to be the ancestor of Kuran, it means he must have been maried to have a descendance. also, who knows, maybe kaname wasn't the only one ''awekened from his grave'', yuuki too. she can be his wife that has been cursed or something, so he put himself to eternal sleep along with her XD. but oh well a few more chapters and we'll know
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HEHEH- well I AM a Kaname fan all the way, i just have two categories (in my mind that is XD):
hero and vilain and that gives= Kaname and Rido
but the reincarnation theory from miskat is really good, i mean for Kaname to be the ancestor of Kuran, it means he must have been maried to have a descendance. also, who knows, maybe kaname wasn't the only one ''awekened from his grave'', yuuki too. she can be his wife that has been cursed or something, so he put himself to eternal sleep along with her XD. but oh well a few more chapters and we'll know


ahhh...this kinda remind me of "ROMEO&JULIET,"don't even ask me why. It just came to me when i was reading ur post(Kaname eternal sleep along w/his lover) hey since VK is a love tragic theme/plot watever....it could be possible of a Romeo&Juliet remake but a more supernatural to it. but i am unsure of this. There are many theory...but then again it is HINO sensei story. And i still haven't figure out wat she might be up to or add to VK hint* since she is so unpredictable....ahhh, the suspense.

Yuuki "AWAKENED FROM HER GRAVE," i am not quite sure about this one. I mean, Rido wanted her in the first place, even though Juuri & Hakura tried their best to hide her existance from all the Vamp. including Rido himself. If she was really resurrected by Rido wouldn't that make Rido her as his "servent" and Rido"Master." It wouldn't make sense if he were to target her again, if he had already made her into something/ or awaken from the grave that would merits to his title. i mean, if she was really was in that situation, then she would immediately recognize him and feel their bond/connection. Like Zero case with Shizuka Hio, he immediately feel that connection w/ his master "Hio." However, I think there is more to Yuuki then wat we see. I think Hino sensei is still waiting for the right moment to exhilarate us w/ her past or tells us more about Yuuki. i have the feeling especially when almost all the IMPORTANT vamp. like Takuma's grandpa, Kaname, Rido, and Yuuki's parents refers to Yuuki as PRINCESS. i am still trying to figure wat do they mean by that. But my guess is that she might be a reincarnation of the past Princess of the Kuran clan that played a significant role. I could be wrong though...i still haven't figure out yet.until then, i will reread the chp. over until have some ideas, hopefully.
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oh, that's quite interresting too! thought the bond between Rido and Kaname is different from the one Shizuka had with Zero. Shizuka took away Zero's humanity (well, not the one in his heart as we can see XD) and gave him a new life as a vampire.

While Rido ''awakened'' Kaname from his grave (also that Kaname was already a vampire).
That means Kaname wasn't definitly dead yet (when a vampire dies -pureblood or not- doesn't he turns to aches?) but Kaname was in a grave, (and usually you burry a corpse in his coffin into the grave, so there was a body) that's why i used the term of ''eternal sleep'' because rido never mentioned he revived Kaname, just as Kaname didn't know (well, that's how it seemed) until he actually fought with Rido, that he couldn't deliver a final blow on him(of course he can harm all he wants Rido, but can't give te final blow to kill Rido).

Also, did anyone else notice that in the chapter cover, Kaname is lying in a coffin? Maybe another hidden hint from Hino-sensei...
Maybe it was Yuuki who awakened -or was used to awaken- Kaname from his grave (doesn't the chapter cover make you think a little to the Sleeping Beauty? A princess awakened by her prince with a kiss after 100 years (but of course the roles are inversed here and much more than a 100 years have passed XD).
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u made some intersing post. however, the bond between Vampire giving life to a non-vamp. & a person reviving from the grave relation are quite similar. Both can't do the final blow...more like, they both cannot kill their master.

it is quite possible that ancestor "Kaname" was in "enternal sleep." i did not even thought about that....interesting point here. Yea, most vamp. & pureblood when they die they immediately turn into ashes, however, in Kaname case he was revive/ resurrected from the grave. Mostly likely his body/ i dunno watever was left of his gene...was probably used in order to bring him back to life& a sacrifice.

about the front cover...i did not even notice that it was a coffin. I though it was inside a room or some sort, u have great eye, i didn't even catch that :D.when i went to look at the cover once more...i began to notice that it was a coffin b/cos of that brown wood looking thing,quite interesting. hmmm....i wonder wat the cover really meant. Though, it look like Yuuki was more in a dominating position than Kaname.hahahaha

about the Sleeping Beauty relation to VK, it could be possible...then again the story of Sleeping Beauty is not tragic and has no trigger towards VK (love tragic). i thought when Yuuki was nibbling on Kaname's black ribbon represents that she is maturing....taking control...yet still pure/innocent.
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lol, yeah she has become so much more daring then before (well, in the illustrations that is XD.... but we still love it )

and it can have the tragedy touch (well all possible versions) since it's not like hino-sensei is copying it. she might inspire herself from other stuff, but in the end, it's her story, she can do what ever she wants with it. Though tragic love story doesn't mean the end of it will be that bad, up until now hino-sensei's works had happy endings, even if she said she wanted to change the type of story this time, it's not really like her to make the ending extremely tragic for this story. even at the end of each arc of the story, it still had some positive stuff.

and yes, in the end, it's the same result= the servant cannot kill his master

And yeah, yuuki seems to be the one ''dominating'' the others, of course she's the main character of the story, but compared to before, it's almost as if everyone depends on her XD.
Posted 4/1/08

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oh, that's quite interresting too! thought the bond between Rido and Kaname is different from the one Shizuka had with Zero. Shizuka took away Zero's humanity (well, not the one in his heart as we can see XD) and gave him a new life as a vampire.

While Rido ''awakened'' Kaname from his grave (also that Kaname was already a vampire).
That means Kaname wasn't definitly dead yet (when a vampire dies -pureblood or not- doesn't he turns to aches?) but Kaname was in a grave, (and usually you burry a corpse in his coffin into the grave, so there was a body) that's why i used the term of ''eternal sleep'' because rido never mentioned he revived Kaname, just as Kaname didn't know (well, that's how it seemed) until he actually fought with Rido, that he couldn't deliver a final blow on him(of course he can harm all he wants Rido, but can't give te final blow to kill Rido).

Also, did anyone else notice that in the chapter cover, Kaname is lying in a coffin? Maybe another hidden hint from Hino-sensei...
Maybe it was Yuuki who awakened -or was used to awaken- Kaname from his grave (doesn't the chapter cover make you think a little to the Sleeping Beauty? A princess awakened by her prince with a kiss after 100 years (but of course the roles are inversed here and much more than a 100 years have passed XD).


Thats what I thought about what you said! I thought it was like Sleeping Beuty
Posted 4/1/08

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hmmm...i wonder how many people are Rido sama fan.


i'm just a fan of the littel kid didnt know itwas rido but i'm not a fan of the older rido o-o only the little kid rido lol
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@fruitzbasket, i also luv Lil Rido....he is just soooo adorable.
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so does it mean tat kaname is not yuuki's bro?


they are not siblings . kaname was just raised as yuki's brother. while kaname sama is the ancestor of the kuran family.
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Heekyung026 wrote:


yuki-eiji wrote:

so does it mean tat kaname is not yuuki's bro?


they are not siblings . kaname was just raised as yuki's brother. while kaname sama is the ancestor of the kuran family.



Excatly, only Juuri, Haruka and Rido (and probably the council of ancients) knew that ''Kaname''s real identity.
Even Yûki wasn't (and isn't) in knowledge of that. Now the ones who know that Kaname is the Kuran's oldgee are:

That know about it for sure:
Alive:
Takuma (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Ichiru (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Rido (he's the ''master that awakened Kaname, revealed in chp.38)

Dead:
Juuri
Haruka

(raised the awakened ancestor as their own child, in place of the one they lost to Rido,
making believe the young Yûki that the ancestor was her brother
and the rest of the vampire society he was their own son, revealed in chp.38)



May know something or were given hints about it:

Zero (given hint by Kaname at the end of chp.36 and at the beginning of chp.37)
Seiren (under direct orders of Kaname, has been doing spying over Rido and that matter by Kaname)
Cross Kaien (he seems to not know details, but there's a slight possibility because of his involvement)
Ichiô (he's Rido's accomplice)
Council of Ancients (duh, shiki senri's uncle and ichiô are in it)


Posted 4/13/08
well at least their not bro & sis though that would be interesting (no i'm not sick minded)
sorry but i perfer Yuki X Zero (so outnumbered in this forum)
Posted 4/13/08

waco99 wrote:


Heekyung026 wrote:


yuki-eiji wrote:

so does it mean tat kaname is not yuuki's bro?


they are not siblings . kaname was just raised as yuki's brother. while kaname sama is the ancestor of the kuran family.



Excatly, only Juuri, Haruka and Rido (and probably the council of ancients) knew that ''Kaname''s real identity.
Even Yûki wasn't (and isn't) in knowledge of that. Now the ones who know that Kaname is the Kuran's oldgee are:

That know about it for sure:
Alive:
Takuma (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Ichiru (told so by Kaname in chp.38)
Rido (he's the ''master that awakened Kaname, revealed in chp.38)

Dead:
Juuri
Haruka

(raised the awakened ancestor as their own child, in place of the one they lost to Rido,
making believe the young Yûki that the ancestor was her brother
and the rest of the vampire society he was their own son, revealed in chp.38)



May know something or were given hints about it:

Zero (given hint by Kaname at the end of chp.36 and at the beginning of chp.37)
Seiren (under direct orders of Kaname, has been doing spying over Rido and that matter by Kaname)
Cross Kaien (he seems to not know details, but there's a slight possibility because of his involvement)
Ichiô (he's Rido's accomplice)
Council of Ancients (duh, shiki senri's uncle and ichiô are in it)





wow
thanks so much for the information
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Posted 4/15/08
I was really confused about what was happening in chapter 38. I couldn't figure out what was going on with kaname being the ancestor to the kurans. Im going to have to go back and re-read the last couple of chapters. All this info has really helped clear things up for me, thanks a lot!
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