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Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08

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Like there a difference to being a "fan" that downloads or streams. -_-

And they make it seem like we are 'forced' to donate to get good quality... >_<


There is a difference to being a "fan" who buys and one who streams. People that do not buy anime that has been released on DVD and just stream are not doing their part to support anime as an art form.


And where did I mention buying anywhere? That was not part of my point.
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Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08

magnus102 wrote:


AHTL wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


AHTL wrote:

Like there a difference to being a "fan" that downloads or streams. -_-

And they make it seem like we are 'forced' to donate to get good quality... >_<


There is a difference to being a "fan" who buys and one who streams. People that do not buy anime that has been released on DVD and just stream are not doing their part to support anime as an art form.


And where did I mention buying anywhere? That was not part of my point.


I know I was just saying. Sorry if sounded like I meant to argue or something.


I think we both understand that streaming/downloading doesn't support the anime community :p

Unlike some narutards.. *sigh*
Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08

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duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuplicate


lol it's a wannabe flamer/mini-mod
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lol it's a wannabe flamer/mini-mod


Gets kind of lame with reposting the same picture over and over.. No argumentation or fancy words or .. anything :|


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OMG all dah good anime is are licensed!!!?!?!?!?!




OMG I AM SO QUITING CR NAO!

>_<


As if Bleach and Naruto were the only *good* [notice how I wrote good] animes on CR -_-
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hi im new here lol
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hi ^^ new poster, join in the fun lol
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blablabla9876 wrote:

lol it's a wannabe flamer/mini-mod


Gets kind of lame with reposting the same picture over and over.. No argumentation or fancy words or .. anything :|


exactly, he's a noob at this.

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lol about half way the tone just changed so fast oh well im off to watch something XD
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Now as a part of this community I really wanted CR to be presented in a good light.
But everytime Nguyen, would answer by saying " No comment" I felt like smacking my head against the wall.

Imho CR didn't look good coming out of that interview. The interview technique may have been quite agressive, and I understand that Nguyen has to keep schtum about the business dealings that are going on right now, but I was felt with a feeling that there was something missing.

Ive been following the news stories over at ANN quite closely recently, and the forum goers over there seem to have a one track mind- CR is the root of all evil, which does get a bit tiring after a while. Their arguments being repetitive that we are being forced to pay to watch anime, which simply isn't true.
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Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08

magnus102 wrote:


AHTL wrote:

Like there a difference to being a "fan" that downloads or streams. -_-

And they make it seem like we are 'forced' to donate to get good quality... >_<


There is a difference to being a "fan" who buys and one who streams. People that do not buy anime that has been released on DVD and just stream are not doing their part to support anime as an art form.

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No they don't. The point was that there really shouldn't have been a donation thing in the first place because it's considered unethical to sell, or ask for donations for fansubs. There are many fansub groups who specifically ask not to redistribute the fan subs on other sites and in many cases CR hasn't complied with that.




Exactly. It odd how no one seems to get this.


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Hey, their this jealousies. I read article by crunchroll has brought in 4.05 million capital. Let them whine all they want it not going change any thing. Sorry to guy who put up with this crapy interview.

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http://www.centernetworks.com/crunchyroll-video-sharing-vc


Yes they did. What CR has not done is any of the work to produce the stuff on this site. Is it ethical to make a profit from the works of others? Especially ones who do not want their stuff sold, such as most fan subbers.


You know that money is complete donation which make it ethical. It not like people are directly buying the anime that others post on here. Yes, to be fan buying is good part of it and I do for stuff I really like. I give money for site so this site can improve and live. It cost money to run a site if you didn't know that. And it not like he made people put up those fansub anime. So this site has every right to ask for support and that all he doing,
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Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08
LOL INTERROGATION
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Nice mate. I can't believe people hate CR.
UHHH asswipes.


It's more that they feel what CR is doing in immoral. Thats what I should have said before.


Wtf? How can they be all up on our business about CR? And HOW is it immoral? They make it seem like CR is 1591834704973089x worse than Myspace. Wtf? You see? Racist bastards!
Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08
omg..who would hate CR?
ehe..imma cry now!
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my fav anime podcast started dissing cr too .... oh well i like cr and i like the podcast... watever
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Posted 3/25/08 , edited 4/18/08

magnus102 wrote:


SamMan wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


AHTL wrote:

Like there a difference to being a "fan" that downloads or streams. -_-

And they make it seem like we are 'forced' to donate to get good quality... >_<


There is a difference to being a "fan" who buys and one who streams. People that do not buy anime that has been released on DVD and just stream are not doing their part to support anime as an art form.

Aklaine wrote:

No they don't. The point was that there really shouldn't have been a donation thing in the first place because it's considered unethical to sell, or ask for donations for fansubs. There are many fansub groups who specifically ask not to redistribute the fan subs on other sites and in many cases CR hasn't complied with that.




Exactly. It odd how no one seems to get this.


SamMan wrote:

Hey, their this jealousies. I read article by crunchroll has brought in 4.05 million capital. Let them whine all they want it not going change any thing. Sorry to guy who put up with this crapy interview.

cited

http://www.centernetworks.com/crunchyroll-video-sharing-vc


Yes they did. What CR has not done is any of the work to produce the stuff on this site. Is it ethical to make a profit from the works of others? Especially ones who do not want their stuff sold, such as most fan subbers.


You know that money is complete donation which make it ethical. It not like people are directly buying the anime that others post on here. Yes, to be fan buying is good part of it and I do for stuff I really like. I give money for site so this site can improve and live. It cost money to run a site if you didn't know that. And it not like he made people put up those fansub anime. So this site has every right to ask for support and that all he doing,


That does not mean it is ethical. I am not saying it is unethical exactly either. It is not an easy question. Fan subbers are doing the work, as are the people making the shows. If a fan sub group does not want people to profit from their work they that means no one should make a profit from their work. Or at least thats how I see things. If the CR employees are getting paid (they are) then we have to ask questions about what they are doing here.


Well, fan subbers have made their choose to let out for free and that mean they do because of their love for anime. And people who made anime do make money off it as well so does mean they're not doing it for anime as much CR is. I think you should ask CR it self that question not me but my opinion as supporter is I gave them money to help this site and if that mean he pay his helper to it then it fine with me. A lot of this fansub anime not absoluely post by people who are running CR. Please in till money is coming in by membership and not by donation there nothing ethically wrong. It not like he making you pay and it was supporter choose to give him the money.
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