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Are IQ tests really accurate?
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IQ test only tests you on certain things and not like on what you really know. personally, what if you have a bad day, then your thinking might be all whacked, then the next day, your all better and take it again, heck might be better then the last time.
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brogits wrote:

mmmm...what do u think?

personally im skeptical about it...

look at this:
•William James Sidis – known to have an IQ of 250+
•Albert Einstein – known to have an IQ of 165+, formulated the Theory of Relativity
•Richard Feynman – known to have an IQ of 125 (or lower), expanded the Theory of Quantum Electrodynamics


hmm...how can they actually say Sidis' IQ is 250+? given the fact that Sidis' has not contributed much to new discoveries or such, i think Einstein is more intelligent than he is...and how come Feynman was able to expand the Theory of Quantum Electrodynamics if his IQ's just the same with that of my classmate, huh?(note:my classmate took a credible IQ test when he took a norweigian scholarship)
so what's wrong?

these arguments may seem shallow but this is just how i see it...so please dont bother condemning me for being ignorant or something...go easy on me...

can intelligence be really given a quantitative measure?feel free to express ur opinions...


Edit:

okay okay...IQ tests are not entirely accurate as u all say...they can give varying scores every now and then ...but...they say IQ tests are intended to determine your level of intelligence--yes, they may not give an exact measure but they somewhat "group" people ..like for example, if your IQ score is 145-159, you are sed 2 be "highly gifted"...

now that makes me wonder...are IQ tests really reliable when it comes to determining a person's level of intelligence?


IQ (intelligence quotient) = (Mental Age / Chronological Age) x 100.

IQ is relative to all terms. The IQ of a child between the ages of 5 to 16 years old is calculated by dividing the child's mental age by his chronological age and then multiplying the result by 100. If a 10 year old child performs mentally at a 10 year old level, the IQ is calculated as 10 divided by 10 equaling 1, and multiplying the 1 by 100 equals an IQ of 100. If the 10 year old child mentally performs at a 20 year old level, then 20 over 10 equals 2, and multiplying 2 by 100 equals an IQ score of 200. Adult IQ is calculated by supervised IQ testing. Adult IQ scores are specific to each IQ test and are not interchangeable between one IQ test and another. Membership qualifications to most high IQ societies require percentile ratings instead of IQ scores. The IQ formula (MA/CA) x 100 = IQ was created as an indicator, not based on mathematical rules. The formula could have been (MA/CA)x10 or (MA/CA)x1000. IQ scores are relative numbers, of no real measurement other than to show relative differences of measurable mental performance between different people taking similar tests.

An IQ score of 100 is average. Only one person in the world has an average IQ. Half of everyone else has a higher IQ, and the other half has a lower IQ. As IQ scores increase, so do opinions differ on what marks gifted and genius. IQ ratings are generally relative to the personal opinion and view of the person being asked (a 6'6" tall man may appear tall to a 5' tall man, but an 8' tall man thinks everyone to be short). Generally, average IQ is about 90 to 115, talented is about 115 to 125, gifted is about 125 to 140, and about 140+ is commonly believed as having the potential for genius. It is important to note that whatsoever environment a person lives in, it is that which the person will deem normal, and all terms about intellectual levels are only relative to the individual's own personal level.

Individuals with high IQs are humans just like everyone else, with similar personality strengths and weaknesses as everyone else. Some high IQers are nice, some are not so nice, and each individual has idiosyncrasies just as do all humans. They even get lazy and tired of taking test so sometimes they just put whatever. High levels of intelligence are commonly accompanied with a greater potential for simultaneously exhibiting above average skills in several fields (g and multiple intelligence). Extremely talented individuals do not easily recognize their own traits as being anything except common because there are no known higher levels of talent to compare the individual's talent to.

I was interested in philosophy, psychology, and IQ so I know. Got anymore question???
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Posted 4/16/08

kimmm6 wrote:

Albert Einstein was pretty smart...no question, but he was wrong a lot, too. He also had a difficult time with math. His particular brand of genius was to be able to see things from a unique point of view, and to explain that point of view to others.

Lots of people with high IQ's don't achieve anything, and lots of people with low IQ's become great. It has as much to do with drive and perserverence as it does with actual intellect.

When I was in jr. high school, I was tested and came out in the high teens/low twenties (about 118 to 122), but my last test put me at 142-144, depending on the subject. Why such a difference? Several things...1) I practice. I've read more, I've learned more, I've done more puzzles, and learned how to do puzzles. 2) confidence. I believe in myself a lot more now, so I naturally achieve more. 3) life experience. Never doubt that life can teach you a great deal, and expand your understanding.

As a measurement, for clinical purposes, I think IQ tests are valid. I don't, however, think that they should be used to judge anyone, nor do I think that a persons worth should be placed on how "intelligent" they are.


wow....u're the one who made most sense here...i agree w/ all u've said ...
Posted 4/16/08
An IQ test should test everything, not just Mathematics as my school did! It should be representitive at least...

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i took an iq test from a child psychologist, when my grades started slipping, way way back when my grade-conscious parents forced me to take one. she (the psychologist) said i was an underachiever because i was "gifted", even though my grades kind of suck. 141, it's just a number, i think.
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Ive been tested 2 times. First one was 137 and the second one was 141. But it doesnt mean squat!
Your intelligent if you do intelligent things and/or actions. If you do stupid things, then your stupid. Simple as that.
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My highschool friend had an IQ of of just an above average but she was our class valedictorian
while the one who had a superior IQ didn';t even recieve any special award/recognition.
I guess, study habit counts, which isn't really part of this topic.

That was completely off topic, ha!
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Posted 4/22/08

Loki_2010 wrote:


brogits wrote:

mmmm...what do u think?

personally im skeptical about it...

look at this:
•William James Sidis – known to have an IQ of 250+
•Albert Einstein – known to have an IQ of 165+, formulated the Theory of Relativity
•Richard Feynman – known to have an IQ of 125 (or lower), expanded the Theory of Quantum Electrodynamics


hmm...how can they actually say Sidis' IQ is 250+? given the fact that Sidis' has not contributed much to new discoveries or such, i think Einstein is more intelligent than he is...and how come Feynman was able to expand the Theory of Quantum Electrodynamics if his IQ's just the same with that of my classmate, huh?(note:my classmate took a credible IQ test when he took a norweigian scholarship)
so what's wrong?

these arguments may seem shallow but this is just how i see it...so please dont bother condemning me for being ignorant or something...go easy on me...

can intelligence be really given a quantitative measure?feel free to express ur opinions...


Edit:

okay okay...IQ tests are not entirely accurate as u all say...they can give varying scores every now and then ...but...they say IQ tests are intended to determine your level of intelligence--yes, they may not give an exact measure but they somewhat "group" people ..like for example, if your IQ score is 145-159, you are sed 2 be "highly gifted"...

now that makes me wonder...are IQ tests really reliable when it comes to determining a person's level of intelligence?


IQ (intelligence quotient) = (Mental Age / Chronological Age) x 100.

IQ is relative to all terms. The IQ of a child between the ages of 5 to 16 years old is calculated by dividing the child's mental age by his chronological age and then multiplying the result by 100. If a 10 year old child performs mentally at a 10 year old level, the IQ is calculated as 10 divided by 10 equaling 1, and multiplying the 1 by 100 equals an IQ of 100. If the 10 year old child mentally performs at a 20 year old level, then 20 over 10 equals 2, and multiplying 2 by 100 equals an IQ score of 200. Adult IQ is calculated by supervised IQ testing. Adult IQ scores are specific to each IQ test and are not interchangeable between one IQ test and another. Membership qualifications to most high IQ societies require percentile ratings instead of IQ scores. The IQ formula (MA/CA) x 100 = IQ was created as an indicator, not based on mathematical rules. The formula could have been (MA/CA)x10 or (MA/CA)x1000. IQ scores are relative numbers, of no real measurement other than to show relative differences of measurable mental performance between different people taking similar tests.

An IQ score of 100 is average. Only one person in the world has an average IQ. Half of everyone else has a higher IQ, and the other half has a lower IQ. As IQ scores increase, so do opinions differ on what marks gifted and genius. IQ ratings are generally relative to the personal opinion and view of the person being asked (a 6'6" tall man may appear tall to a 5' tall man, but an 8' tall man thinks everyone to be short). Generally, average IQ is about 90 to 115, talented is about 115 to 125, gifted is about 125 to 140, and about 140+ is commonly believed as having the potential for genius. It is important to note that whatsoever environment a person lives in, it is that which the person will deem normal, and all terms about intellectual levels are only relative to the individual's own personal level.

Individuals with high IQs are humans just like everyone else, with similar personality strengths and weaknesses as everyone else. Some high IQers are nice, some are not so nice, and each individual has idiosyncrasies just as do all humans. They even get lazy and tired of taking test so sometimes they just put whatever. High levels of intelligence are commonly accompanied with a greater potential for simultaneously exhibiting above average skills in several fields (g and multiple intelligence). Extremely talented individuals do not easily recognize their own traits as being anything except common because there are no known higher levels of talent to compare the individual's talent to.

I was interested in philosophy, psychology, and IQ so I know. Got anymore question???


uh...does general intelligence factor or "g" really exist?
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Posted 4/22/08
nah...
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not on the internet though
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Posted 4/25/08
I don't really think those IQ tests are really accurate>.<
They don't test the whole brain and there r also much more important things in life, than just to know what your IQ is...
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Posted 4/25/08
no
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Posted 4/27/08
no
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i don't know. i took one but i don't think it is cause thinking back some of the answers i didnt get, i get now.
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there are factors that make IQ records inaccurate but for purposes of record people do the test
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