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Posted 4/1/08

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GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both


No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...


GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers


What of the manueverability of the GN Arms, and its applications in atmospheric warfare? Not to mention the GP03 doesn't have the sensors capable of looking thru GN particle interference....

the battle would not take place in the atmosphere since GP03 cant
the GN Ams dont have sensors capable of looking through M particle interference ether.





Guess that evens it out..... what of the durability of Luna Titanium(gundarium) vs GN-enhanced E-Carbon?


the I Field will stop all beam attacks but the GN field can be broken after a few beam hits as shown with Virtue and the GN-X's 1st attacked so the mega beam cannon of the GP03 should be able to as well.


I believe I was asking about the durability of their armor, not their active defense mechanisms.... but oh well....


lol i forgot to make the point on that it i thought i put it at the top sry
well all we know is that both can take a few beam hits and beam saber will cut both easy so i from what we can tell they are equal when it come to beam tech but ill give E-carbon a bit of and edge against machine gun and other shell based fire


I guess it all boils down to the deployability and battlefield endurance that are the main strengths of the GN Arms.....
I'm basing it on the fact that even if they separate, both units(GN Arms and GN-Gundam) can be considered individual units, splitting their firepower and possibly the GP03's pilot's attention....
And there's the deployability... the GN Arms can be safely stashed away in the combat container, which is both a semi-fixed weapon mount for the Ptolemaios and an assault vehicle, while the Orchis component of the Dendrobium has to be either strapped to the hull of the ship, where it is vulnerable, or taken apart for storage in the hangar, which would be hell in a battlefield emergency.....
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Sleepneeded127 wrote:


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thesilentreviewer wrote:


Sleepneeded127 wrote:


thesilentreviewer wrote:


Sleepneeded127 wrote:


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Sleepneeded127 wrote:

GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both


No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...


GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers


What of the manueverability of the GN Arms, and its applications in atmospheric warfare? Not to mention the GP03 doesn't have the sensors capable of looking thru GN particle interference....

the battle would not take place in the atmosphere since GP03 cant
the GN Ams dont have sensors capable of looking through M particle interference ether.





Guess that evens it out..... what of the durability of Luna Titanium(gundarium) vs GN-enhanced E-Carbon?


the I Field will stop all beam attacks but the GN field can be broken after a few beam hits as shown with Virtue and the GN-X's 1st attacked so the mega beam cannon of the GP03 should be able to as well.


I believe I was asking about the durability of their armor, not their active defense mechanisms.... but oh well....


lol i forgot to make the point on that it i thought i put it at the top sry
well all we know is that both can take a few beam hits and beam saber will cut both easy so i from what we can tell they are equal when it come to beam tech but ill give E-carbon a bit of and edge against machine gun and other shell based fire


I guess it all boils down to the deployability and battlefield endurance that are the main strengths of the GN Arms.....
I'm basing it on the fact that even if they separate, both units(GN Arms and GN-Gundam) can be considered individual units, splitting their firepower and possibly the GP03's pilot's attention....
And there's the deployability... the GN Arms can be safely stashed away in the combat container, which is both a semi-fixed weapon mount for the Ptolemaios and an assault vehicle, while the Orchis component of the Dendrobium has to be either strapped to the hull of the ship, where it is vulnerable, or taken apart for storage in the hangar, which would be hell in a battlefield emergency.....


i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack
Posted 4/1/08

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

Genesic_Shin_Zyrael_Kaiser wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:
GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both

No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...

GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers

What of the manueverability of the GN Arms, and its applications in atmospheric warfare? Not to mention the GP03 doesn't have the sensors capable of looking thru GN particle interference....

the battle would not take place in the atmosphere since GP03 cant
the GN Ams dont have sensors capable of looking through M particle interference ether.

Guess that evens it out..... what of the durability of Luna Titanium(gundarium) vs GN-enhanced E-Carbon?

the I Field will stop all beam attacks but the GN field can be broken after a few beam hits as shown with Virtue and the GN-X's 1st attacked so the mega beam cannon of the GP03 should be able to as well.

I believe I was asking about the durability of their armor, not their active defense mechanisms.... but oh well....

lol i forgot to make the point on that it i thought i put it at the top sry
well all we know is that both can take a few beam hits and beam saber will cut both easy so i from what we can tell they are equal when it come to beam tech but ill give E-carbon a bit of and edge against machine gun and other shell based fire

I guess it all boils down to the deployability and battlefield endurance that are the main strengths of the GN Arms.....
I'm basing it on the fact that even if they separate, both units(GN Arms and GN-Gundam) can be considered individual units, splitting their firepower and possibly the GP03's pilot's attention....
And there's the deployability... the GN Arms can be safely stashed away in the combat container, which is both a semi-fixed weapon mount for the Ptolemaios and an assault vehicle, while the Orchis component of the Dendrobium has to be either strapped to the hull of the ship, where it is vulnerable, or taken apart for storage in the hangar, which would be hell in a battlefield emergency.....

i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack


You're right about that... nah, I don't know what to say anymore, except that the GP03 is a much bigger target, lol
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Posted 4/1/08

thesilentreviewer wrote:


Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

Genesic_Shin_Zyrael_Kaiser wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:
GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both

No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...

GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers

What of the manueverability of the GN Arms, and its applications in atmospheric warfare? Not to mention the GP03 doesn't have the sensors capable of looking thru GN particle interference....

the battle would not take place in the atmosphere since GP03 cant
the GN Ams dont have sensors capable of looking through M particle interference ether.

Guess that evens it out..... what of the durability of Luna Titanium(gundarium) vs GN-enhanced E-Carbon?

the I Field will stop all beam attacks but the GN field can be broken after a few beam hits as shown with Virtue and the GN-X's 1st attacked so the mega beam cannon of the GP03 should be able to as well.

I believe I was asking about the durability of their armor, not their active defense mechanisms.... but oh well....

lol i forgot to make the point on that it i thought i put it at the top sry
well all we know is that both can take a few beam hits and beam saber will cut both easy so i from what we can tell they are equal when it come to beam tech but ill give E-carbon a bit of and edge against machine gun and other shell based fire

I guess it all boils down to the deployability and battlefield endurance that are the main strengths of the GN Arms.....
I'm basing it on the fact that even if they separate, both units(GN Arms and GN-Gundam) can be considered individual units, splitting their firepower and possibly the GP03's pilot's attention....
And there's the deployability... the GN Arms can be safely stashed away in the combat container, which is both a semi-fixed weapon mount for the Ptolemaios and an assault vehicle, while the Orchis component of the Dendrobium has to be either strapped to the hull of the ship, where it is vulnerable, or taken apart for storage in the hangar, which would be hell in a battlefield emergency.....

i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack


You're right about that... nah, I don't know what to say anymore, except that the GP03 is a much bigger target, lol


that is one big disadvantage if the GN Arms can get close to the back with a physical strike it could be done for but the huge booster i think can keep it far enough away
Posted 4/1/08

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

thesilentreviewer wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:

Genesic_Shin_Zyrael_Kaiser wrote:

Sleepneeded127 wrote:
GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both

No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...

GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers

What of the manueverability of the GN Arms, and its applications in atmospheric warfare? Not to mention the GP03 doesn't have the sensors capable of looking thru GN particle interference....

the battle would not take place in the atmosphere since GP03 cant
the GN Ams dont have sensors capable of looking through M particle interference ether.

Guess that evens it out..... what of the durability of Luna Titanium(gundarium) vs GN-enhanced E-Carbon?

the I Field will stop all beam attacks but the GN field can be broken after a few beam hits as shown with Virtue and the GN-X's 1st attacked so the mega beam cannon of the GP03 should be able to as well.

I believe I was asking about the durability of their armor, not their active defense mechanisms.... but oh well....

lol i forgot to make the point on that it i thought i put it at the top sry
well all we know is that both can take a few beam hits and beam saber will cut both easy so i from what we can tell they are equal when it come to beam tech but ill give E-carbon a bit of and edge against machine gun and other shell based fire

I guess it all boils down to the deployability and battlefield endurance that are the main strengths of the GN Arms.....
I'm basing it on the fact that even if they separate, both units(GN Arms and GN-Gundam) can be considered individual units, splitting their firepower and possibly the GP03's pilot's attention....
And there's the deployability... the GN Arms can be safely stashed away in the combat container, which is both a semi-fixed weapon mount for the Ptolemaios and an assault vehicle, while the Orchis component of the Dendrobium has to be either strapped to the hull of the ship, where it is vulnerable, or taken apart for storage in the hangar, which would be hell in a battlefield emergency.....

i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack

You're right about that... nah, I don't know what to say anymore, except that the GP03 is a much bigger target, lol

that is one big disadvantage if the GN Arms can get close to the back with a physical strike it could be done for but the huge booster i think can keep it far enough away


There's still the issue about manueverability, if the GN Arms is to get well behind a Dendrobium, the only option the GP03 has is to throttle up and run the heck away, though in the GN Arms case, it can easily maneuver in place into a firing position quicker...

btw, about the Mega cannon on the Dendrobium, can it be fired without using the Stamen's right manipulator?
Coz I do remember Kou using a trigger built in the cannon, I was wondering if it is a necessity, since, if it is the case, it would deprive the GP03 some close range firepower(i.e. letting go of one hand-held weapon i.e. the folding bazooka) while it uses the cannon
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There's still the issue about manueverability, if the GN Arms is to get well behind a Dendrobium, the only option the GP03 has is to throttle up and run the heck away, though in the GN Arms case, it can easily maneuver in place into a firing position quicker...

btw, about the Mega cannon on the Dendrobium, can it be fired without using the Stamen's right manipulator?
Coz I do remember Kou using a trigger built in the cannon, I was wondering if it is a necessity, since, if it is the case, it would deprive the GP03 some close range firepower(i.e. letting go of one hand-held weapon i.e. the folding bazooka) while it uses the cannon


yes thats what would have to happen the GP03 would go full throttle and come back since the GN Arms is more maneuverable but lacks the raw speed of a battle ship. so the GP03 would rush far away then attack from a distance.
no it does not need the staman to use the canon all controls go thought the hard points on the tail binders. if kou let go of the bazooka it would be gone since nothing holds it besides the hands.
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Posted 4/1/08

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GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both


No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...


GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers


That's if you're taking firepower of a docked GP03 compared to the firepower of a docked GN Gundam with the Gundam. True enough that the GP03 Dendrobium has got a wide range variety of weaponry in it's arsenal. Also, the Dendrobium was indeed built to destroy mass numbers of MSs and battleships which explains why it would have greater firepower. If firepower was the main point then Dendrobium should be compared to the METEOR, the METEOR not only boasts a firepower, but also range and the area affected in one full burst shot is extremely large. On the otherhand, the GN Arms clearly lacks firepower to compete with the 2 attachments, but what the GN Arms excels in is flexibilty and adaptabilty.

The GN Arms is used in this purposes as shown in the show:


** Used to control the Combat Container so that it can be used to transport the gundam contained to some location without consuming it's energy - good option if one should rely the TRANS-AM system - Also, the combat container could be used for atmospheric reentry

** Used as a support fighter capable swift attacks while supporting the Gundams, given that a pilot is operating it.

** Used as a docked weapon to increase the Gundams mobility, firepower and obviously to give it a GN Field


I don't know if the GN Arms are still capable of doing something more, but as of the moment, these are the things that the GN Arms can do.

Also, if all 4 containers of the gundams actually have GN Arms in them, which is somewhat obvious that it does, then that also means that all 4 or 5 (if counting Nadleeh and Virtue as different types of units) of the Gundams are able to dock with the GN Arms.

Now if all four were to sorty with their GN Arms, then I do think that the final battle against the GN-X would probably turned out differently.
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i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack


GP03 Dendrobium wasn't built to defend... Like one person said in YouTube... GP03 Dendrobuim is like the "Shock and Awe" unit of UC.

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Sleepneeded127 wrote:


Genesic_Shin_Zyrael_Kaiser wrote:


Sleepneeded127 wrote:

GN arms beats meteor but GP03 beats both


No... GN Arms owns both... simple reason... both the GP03 Dendrobium and METEOR are attachments to the Gundams that requires it to be docked in the mobile suit to be used. On the other hand, the GN Arms is itself, combat capable and has a cockpit which a pilot can use to fight with the Gundams. Not to mention that they're the containers for the Gundams...


GN Arms dont come close to the Weapons the GP03 has. GN Arm have no physical ranged weapons except a for smaller amount of missiles making it almost useless at a distance. the GP03 was all made in intercept battleships so its faster and still very numerable. the Tow anit ship mine would take out the GN Arms. the grapple pincers would rip it a part or cut it to with the giant beam sabers


That's if you're taking firepower of a docked GP03 compared to the firepower of a docked GN Gundam with the Gundam. True enough that the GP03 Dendrobium has got a wide range variety of weaponry in it's arsenal. Also, the Dendrobium was indeed built to destroy mass numbers of MSs and battleships which explains why it would have greater firepower. If firepower was the main point then Dendrobium should be compared to the METEOR, the METEOR not only boasts a firepower, but also range and the area affected in one full burst shot is extremely large. On the otherhand, the GN Arms clearly lacks firepower to compete with the 2 attachments, but what the GN Arms excels in is flexibilty and adaptabilty.

The GN Arms is used in this purposes as shown in the show:


** Used to control the Combat Container so that it can be used to transport the gundam contained to some location without consuming it's energy - good option if one should rely the TRANS-AM system - Also, the combat container could be used for atmospheric reentry

** Used as a support fighter capable swift attacks while supporting the Gundams, given that a pilot is operating it.

** Used as a docked weapon to increase the Gundams mobility, firepower and obviously to give it a GN Field


I don't know if the GN Arms are still capable of doing something more, but as of the moment, these are the things that the GN Arms can do.

Also, if all 4 containers of the gundams actually have GN Arms in them, which is somewhat obvious that it does, then that also means that all 4 or 5 (if counting Nadleeh and Virtue as different types of units) of the Gundams are able to dock with the GN Arms.

Now if all four were to sorty with their GN Arms, then I do think that the final battle against the GN-X would probably turned out differently.


yes my hole base is the GN Arms E and D types since those are the two we have seen

now the GN Arms is way more versatile. but in a 1 on 1 fight the GN Arms lacks the speed and weapons. also as i said to thesilentreviewer enough beam hits have took down the GN field when the GN-X's 1st came out so the power of the Mega particle canon should be able to do so as well. but the GN Arms are beam based and the I-field would reflect them so the E-type would have to get close to use the blades but the GP03 would just use its speed to get away.

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i was just based it if they were on the battle field and just what they can do. i did not count for pilot skill
but the GN Arms is more versatile but it was made as a front line fighter the GP03 was made to defend space bases by intercepting ships before they could attack


GP03 Dendrobium wasn't built to defend... Like one person said in YouTube... GP03 Dendrobuim is like the "Shock and Awe" unit of UC.



no it was made to defend bases form attacks by it self
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yes my hole base is the GN Arms E and D types since those are the two we have seen

now the GN Arms is way more versatile. but in a 1 on 1 fight the GN Arms lacks the speed and weapons. also as i said to thesilentreviewer enough beam hits have took down the GN field when the GN-X's 1st came out so the power of the Mega particle canon should be able to do so as well. but the GN Arms are beam based and the I-field would reflect them so the E-type would have to get close to use the blades but the GP03 would just use its speed to get away.



The mobility of both units (Dendrobium and GN Arms) is clearly questionable. Since there wasn't really info on how fast exactly both units could run... BUT, one thing is evident thou... and that is, GN Arms are lighter than Dendrobium. Less weight, would technically mean greater mobility. Add to that the GN Arms runs on 2 GN Drives, one from the Gundam and one from the unit itself. The 2 GN Drives are most likely to be designed to run together increasing the mobility of the GN Arms. And that's without the TRANS-AM.

Theoritically, it is also plausible that the GN Arms is capable of operating within the Gundams TRANS-AM system. Now we all know what happens we TRANS-AM activates right.

Well anyways.... we're straying too far from the topic as the point of comparison was METEOR and GN Arms, nowhere was the Orchis mentioned. If the Orchis was to be added, then may I suggest to add the G-Falcon too from Gundam X...
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yes my hole base is the GN Arms E and D types since those are the two we have seen

now the GN Arms is way more versatile. but in a 1 on 1 fight the GN Arms lacks the speed and weapons. also as i said to thesilentreviewer enough beam hits have took down the GN field when the GN-X's 1st came out so the power of the Mega particle canon should be able to do so as well. but the GN Arms are beam based and the I-field would reflect them so the E-type would have to get close to use the blades but the GP03 would just use its speed to get away.



The mobility of both units (Dendrobium and GN Arms) is clearly questionable. Since there wasn't really info on how fast exactly both units could run... BUT, one thing is evident thou... and that is, GN Arms are lighter than Dendrobium. Less weight, would technically mean greater mobility. Add to that the GN Arms runs on 2 GN Drives, one from the Gundam and one from the unit itself. The 2 GN Drives are most likely to be designed to run together increasing the mobility of the GN Arms. And that's without the TRANS-AM.

Theoritically, it is also plausible that the GN Arms is capable of operating within the Gundams TRANS-AM system. Now we all know what happens we TRANS-AM activates right.

Well anyways.... we're straying too far from the topic as the point of comparison was METEOR and GN Arms, nowhere was the Orchis mentioned. If the Orchis was to be added, then may I suggest to add the G-Falcon too from Gundam X... :D


lol ok im too tired to debate this any more any way ill make a thread to compare all this type of add on later
but i think we both agree GN Arms > METEOR
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lol ok im too tired to debate this any more any way ill make a thread to compare all this type of add on later
but i think we both agree GN Arms > METEOR


Yep... ^^ Agreed... ^^
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GN arms would win meteor is too slow and have the defense or mobility to even give the arms a decent fight.
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