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Time for the monthly mandatory post. Sensei do you know any good Slavic myths?
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Time for the monthly mandatory post. Sensei do you know any good Slavic myths?


sure..would you like to know bout The Zorya?
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Time for the monthly mandatory post. Sensei do you know any good Slavic myths?


sure..would you like to know bout The Zorya?


Sure what's that?
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Time for the monthly mandatory post. Sensei do you know any good Slavic myths?


sure..would you like to know bout The Zorya?


Sure what's that?


The Zorya are the three (sometimes two) guardian goddesses, known as the Auroras. They guard and watch over the doomsday hound that threatens to eat the constellation Ursa Minor (little bear). The universe is said to end if the chain breaks loose and the constellation is devoured. The Auroras represent the Morning Star, Evening Star, and Midnight Star, respectively, although the Midnight Star is sometimes omitted. In some myths, the morning Zorya was the wife of the male Myesyats, the moon god, and was a major goddess. In other myths, the Zoryas are virgin goddesses who flank the sun, and Myesyats is an unrelated female moon goddess. The Zorya are associated with marriage, protection, and exorcisms.

The Morning Star is Zorya Utrennyaya and she opens the heavenly gates for the chariot of the sun in the morning. She is depicted as a fully armed and courageous warrior. She is the patron goddess of horses, and is associated with the planet Venus. She is invoked to protect against death in battle, and her prayers were addressed as "Defend me, O maiden, with your veil from the enemy, from the arquebus and arrow"

The Evening Star is Zorya Vechernyaya. She closes the gates of heaven each night as the sun returns home.

The Midnight Star is Zorya Polunochnaya. Some legends omit this Zorya, leaving only the Morning and Evening Auroras. Each night, the sun dies in the Midnight Zorya's arms and is then restored to life. She is a goddess of death, rebirth, magic, mysticism, and wisdom.

The Zorya are sometimes associated with the Triple Goddess mythic archetype, with the Morning, Evening and Midnight Zoryas representing the maiden, mother, and crone, respectively

When i think of this myth, it usually reminds me of The Fates of the greek and/or roman myth. Maybe you would like to check it out someday.^^

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Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous. Do any of the other students even show up here?
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Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous. Do any of the other students even show up here?


you are the only student in class despite the others actually registered for it but never ask anything at all...
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commando2 wrote:

Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous. Do any of the other students even show up here?


you are the only student in class despite the others actually registered for it but never ask anything at all...


TWO MONTHS!! TWO MONTHS!?!?

Well, what's done is done so lets get back to class.


Sensei could you tell us some myths from your culture?
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commando2 wrote:

Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous. Do any of the other students even show up here?


you are the only student in class despite the others actually registered for it but never ask anything at all...


what da?!!?!...... a whole season and a half! I declare this thread abandoned. *sits on a desk* Im not movin' 'til someone else posts.
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khaixin93 wrote:


commando2 wrote:

Alright, this is getting a little ridiculous. Do any of the other students even show up here?


you are the only student in class despite the others actually registered for it but never ask anything at all...


TWO MONTHS!! TWO MONTHS!?!?

Well, what's done is done so lets get back to class.


Sensei could you tell us some myths from your culture?


My country? Well, to know bout the culture in my country you have to know a little about my country 1st. So you'll need to be patient with my babbling..xD

I live in Malaysia, and my country is a multi-races country, thus making it a multi-cultured country. The 3 main races here are Malay -the most-, followed by Chinese and then Indian. The other minorities are like Iban, Kadazan, Baba Nyonya, etc. I am a Chinese myself -you know, like my ancestors are from China, then they came here God-knows-how-long-ago, and then the other generations are then staying here, get it?-, and because I love history and myths [which includes cultures, of course], I kinda know a little bout them.

Okay, from my culture:-

The Chinese

Its a lot to talk about, since Chinese itself is seperated into many categories.

I'll start with the costumes 1st. I'm sure you've seen a Chinese Qipao [which means "banner gown" literary].

It is one of the most typical, traditional costumes for Chinese women, which is also known as cheongsam [which means long shirt literary].

There’s a legend that a young fisherwoman lived by the Jingbo Lake. She was not only beautiful, but also clever and skillful. But when fishing, she often felt hindered by her long and loose fitting dress. Then an idea struck her: why not make a more practical dress for work. She got down to sewing and producing a long multi looped button gown with slits, which enabled her to tuck in the front piece of her dress, thus making her job much easier. As a fisherwoman, she never dreamed that a fortune would befall on her.



The young emperor who ruled China at that time had a dream one night. In the dream, his dead father told him that a lovely fisherwoman in Qi Pao by the Jingbo Lake would become his queen. After awakening from his deep sleep, the emperor sent his men to look for her. Sure enough, there she was. So she became the queen, bringing her Cheongsam with her. Manchu women all followed suit and soon the Qi Pao became popular.

No one is sure if the story is true. But one thing is certain. The Qipao came from the Munches who grew out of ancient Nuzhen tribes. In the early 17th century in North China, Nurhachi, a great political and military strategist, unified the Nuzhen tribes and set up the Eight Banner System. Later he led his troops into Beijing and overthrew the Ming Dynasty. Over the years, a collarless tube-shaped gown was developed, which was worn by men and women. This is the embryo of the Qipao. It became popular among the royal palace of the Qing Dynasty and the mansions of the Manchu nobility. At that time, it was loosely fitted and long enough to reach the insteps. Usually it was made of silk, and embroidered, with broad laces trimmed at the collar, sleeves and edges. The dress empresses of past dynasties wore them. Their style of dress was regarded as the highest of standards for Chinese women for several thousand years.



Then the other customs are like during and after pregnancy. =.= Mothers-in-law are responsible for taking care of the wife, not husband with the reasons that mothers-in-law are more experienced in these situations. During pregnancy, mothers are not allowed to hit animals, talk foul languages [so that the baby are not cursed], and they are to restrain from any conflicts. Other than that, mothers are not allowed to rub their belly too often, for they believe that the baby will be pampered a lot after the baby's born. Food like mango, pineapple and etc are not allowed to eat too much, for they are afraid that the baby will grow too big and will be difficult to be given birth. The way the chinese predict the gender of the baby is to see the shape of the mother's belly. If it's quite round, then the baby will be a girl, and while the belly is a little "sharp", it'll then be a baby boy.

After pregnancy, mothers are to be "watched-out" for 40 days. They are not allowed to bath with cold water because they are afraid that the "wind" will go into the body of the mothers. The belly button will be covered and a piece of cloth will be tied around it to dry the belly button. The chinese believes that if the belly button are submerged, it'll meant that the baby will have a good life in the future, and vice versa. And if a baby have more that one eddy [on the head], then the baby are believed to be naughty. Food for mothers after pregnancy are different from during pregnancy. There's a type of dish, where the chicken are steam [i think, i see my mom love to eat it], with ginger and the most important ingredient-- rice wine, It is believed that the dish will help mothers to get rid of the "wind" inside the body.

The baby, after given birth, will then celebrate after the baby reached one month old. The parents will then give out small cakes -yellow or red in colour- with red bean fillings and red egg





In a way, red egg symbolizes life of the baby. The announcement and celebration of the birth happens one month from a child's birthday. Both baby and mom are kept out of public during this period. This comes from an Asian belief - once a baby passes the first month, then he or she will make it to a healthy and happy life. In the old days, the most pronounced way to declare the birth of a child is by giving out eggs dyed red (i.e., "red eggs") to the relatives, friends and neighbors. Only then would people know that a child has been born. The first month is considered a big milestone for the baby, the child is named at the time, and only then would the child and the mother be allowed to be seen in the public.

The baby are then to have his/her hair shaved. Its called the "first-hair" which are considered temporary. The name of the baby are given with words. The first word are surname, followed by the middle name [which is carried within the siblings, TRADITIONALLY], and then the last one will be the proper name [as to be called by the others]

I'll give you an example from my family in case you're confused. I have an older brother and a younger sister. I;m in the middle

My brother's name is : 刘凯旋
Mine: 刘凯欣
My sister's name: 刘凯丽

See? the 1st one will be the family name, followed by the middle name [to recognize that we're siblings], and the last one, our proper name.

Hm..I'll have to go now..I'll fill you in with the traditions of the chinese [the weddings, burial, etc] and the other traditions of malays and indians the next time.. So see ya^^
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wow you sure now alot about this sensei
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wow you sure now alot about this sensei


cause this is my culture..haha..but living in a multi races and multi culture country, its meant to be a common knowledge so we will respect each others culture. =)
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Ok.. I'm back.. I've been quite busy in school lately..and with me being sick now, it doesnt really help much. But I'll try to fill in more of the things you wanna know..

The Chinese Traditional Wedding

Traditionally, most marriages are arrange by parents. And before the parents arrange for their son's [mostly son, cause the status of girls last time are considered low], both son and parents will go to the girl's house to ask for a hand for their daughter's marriage. But because Chinese are very concerned about the name of the family, the behavior of the girl, etc, so this meeting [going to the house of the girl] is also considered somehow like "spying" on the girl.

If both party are satisfied with their backgrounds, etc, they will discuss about the amount of dowry, table allocation in feast and choose the most suitable day for the marriage. Then they'll engage. The day the couples engage must be based on the couple's "birth star". The fortune teller will help to set the date guided/referring to the Toong-Su book. It is very important as the Chinese believe that if it is not followed, there will be befallen disaster and marriage will experience failure. The the boy will go to the girl's house to exchange their ring. As a prove of agreement, the girl will give a piece of red paper [also called nyen-sang], written with her name, age, and date of birth to the guy. The guy will then give his and her nyen-sang to the fortune teller. The fortune teller will then give another 2 piece of paper [this time called nyik-kor]. Nyik-kors consist of the customs and rules that must be followed.

If before the marriage, there have been deaths among the bride-to-be family member, the marriage must be suspended in the next year or at least one hundred days [Not good to be celebrating something good while others are mourning right?]. The bride will mostly wear white, red or gold coloured shirt, while colours like blue, black and grey are not allowed because those colours are believed to represent death and grief. Then the bridegroom will go to the bride's house escorted by their escort [so that they wont do "something" before the marriage]. After introducing each other's realtives, they will then have the tea drinking ceremony.

Yeah, I know. Its a bit weird. But the reason behind it is if the parents drink the tea, it means that they accept him/her into the family. A feast will then be held. The guest will bring red packets as a wish of luck. The feast is for the couples to know more of each others relative.

I've finish the wedding part then. Sorry its been so long since I came in and talk about those things.. I'll update more after my sickness leave me.. I cant wait to be healthy again..= ="

Till then, take care~
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I'm sorry to hear your sick. I hope you feel better soon!

Well let's see...hmmm...well I cannot exactly pinpoint my culture (I'm American so it could be lots of things) but i should be able to remeber some things about marriage here.

By far the most infamous type of American Wedding is the Shotgun Wedding. If a man has a duaghter they are ussually very protected from unscrupolous men, however even a hawk blinks. So if she was found to have "done the deed" or atleast resonable suspicion thereof, the man (who through guile of some smooth talking or out of genuine love) that she had such contact with was held by the father of the bride-to-be until some minister or priest was brought in to over the surpise ocassion. The reason this is known as a shotgun wedding is the fact that the way the father "held" the groom was ussually at gunpoint all the way untill "I Do"; and since the most common firearm of a landowner in the old days was an heirloom shotgun, they soon called such marriges "Shotgun Weddings".

Today the term "shotgun wedding" has only the main point still intact. Such weddings are ussually because of unplanned pregnacy and violence is usually not used, the to love birds are merely scolded for indiscretion and now must accept the consequences of their actions.

Enough about the strange, let's go normal!

In America its is held that the parents of the bride pay for the wedding. This is probably a final gift of the father as he is now the second most important man in the bride's life.

The clothes of a wedding have change over the years, in the old days some would buy a wedding dress and that dress would be used by the subsequent daughters on their own weddings. If the bride had no such thing, she usually wore her best church clothing. In recent times the wedding dress has changed to something worn only once. Its is held as a standard the only virgin women are to wear awhite wedding dress, but in the interest of not hampering fairytale weddings (and not dying because you told an on-edge bride she can't use white) the standard is very rarely followed truthfully.

The wedding is contemperarily held to be the special day of the Bride, she is the master executor of every decision. The groom has very litte to do other than, agree whole-heartly with EVERY of the bride's choices, show up sober, and say "I Do". Some men think that this is unfair, wiser men are not bothered about this because of two words: CHILD BIRTH.

About the only decision of the groom is the choosing of the Best Man. In olden times the best man was the chosen friend of the groom who was supposed to ensure the safety of the bride, today this is more of an honorary role and shows the special bond of male friendship between the two.

The most obscure part of a wedding before the "I Do's". "if any man know a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your [piece/peace]"(?) Was put in to the vows to ensure that both participants were morally allowed to marry. (e.i no incest, polygamy, or other such things)

The most binding part of the wedding is the vows. In the ld days these words were a legal and binding contract which was not supposed to be broken without death or infidelity, however today various govornments now hold the rules as to what is leagally needed in marrige and varies from place to place. A modern concept is having the bride and groom write thier own vows to give eachother. This is held to be highly romatic and sweet when done properly.

Well i can't think of any thing else so this comcludes my bit of cultural exchange. SEE YA LATER AND GET WELL SOON SENSEI!
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Thanks..Thats very sweet of you to tell me bout your culture there. I'll update as soon as I can.

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I just checked the CR Academy feed and the other forums.... We have not had any new members for a month and ours is the only thread to have been posted on since the end of January. I don't know if we should proud of our ability to keep this thread alive or if we should be dismayed by the emptiness of the group.
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