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I'll have to go with the Karambit or the Sansibar.
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i like knives ......why? they're like air
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Posted 7/13/08

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I'll have to go with the Karambit or the Sansibar.


you might want to say why as well.
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I'll have to go with the Karambit or the Sansibar.

The Karambit is an all purpose utility knife that has been carried by the Indonesians since the 11th century.It was not originaly meant to be used for combat since karambit was originaly a tool. It was used as a weapon because of the need of the people to protect themselves from foreigners and other people of such.The karambit is made of high carbon steel 5160.Each knife is forged and heat treated to 59 to 61 rock tempered scale.this is the same treatment that is used by Japanese sword makers in tempering the katana.


The sansibar was and still is used by the river workers who cut bamboo and use it as floaters for their boats for local traveling.These swords are widely used in everyday tasks and as tools of survival used by many for all out combat purposes due to its perfect balance.

Above is the why Macedonian.my apologies.I shall remember to include things of such in the future.
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well you've all made good points but none of you thought to think of more than bladed weapons...

in my opinion the best weapon would have to be The Human Body, mainly because of it's versatility in combat be close or ranged. the human body has, for centuries, been used as a weapon and has also CREATED weapons for it to use, so in this case the human body could use all of your weapons and use many other styles to kill you with. if a human is trained to kill with anything then it could do that in many more ways by using the imagination of the human mind. also as technological advances continue soon the human body will become the perfect weapon that cannot be broken or killed. i'll explain, with the technological advances we've made in the past hundred years is extrodinary to what the human race has done for all their excistence. Just think about it, we have now sent machines to mars and are right now comming up with a crew to send to mars at some point in the future. We have weapons that can actually wipe out every living thing on earth. We have devopled a way to clone something and are making nanomachines that can think for them selves.

If the human race continues at this rate then in no time we will have made and perfected the technoligy for living longer lives and making or bodies invunarable to all possible things that could harm or kill us. WE the Human Race are the Ultimate Weapon!!!

just try and beat this when even humans can create artificial inteligence.
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well you've all made good points but none of you thought to think of more than bladed weapons...

in my opinion the best weapon would have to be The Human Body, mainly because of it's versatility in combat be close or ranged. the human body has, for centuries, been used as a weapon and has also CREATED weapons for it to use, so in this case the human body could use all of your weapons and use many other styles to kill you with. if a human is trained to kill with anything then it could do that in many more ways by using the imagination of the human mind. also as technological advances continue soon the human body will become the perfect weapon that cannot be broken or killed. i'll explain, with the technological advances we've made in the past hundred years is extrodinary to what the human race has done for all their excistence. Just think about it, we have now sent machines to mars and are right now comming up with a crew to send to mars at some point in the future. We have weapons that can actually wipe out every living thing on earth. We have devopled a way to clone something and are making nanomachines that can think for them selves.

If the human race continues at this rate then in no time we will have made and perfected the technoligy for living longer lives and making or bodies invunarable to all possible things that could harm or kill us. WE the Human Race are the Ultimate Weapon!!!

just try and beat this when even humans can create artificial inteligence.



Very good points. I agree with all but one.
The body is not a weapon as a weapon is defined as an object designed to kill or injure.
While anything may be USED as a weapon, only some things are classified AS a weapon.

Also I would question how a human could be technologically engineered to be invulnerable.

Nonetheless very good points and the human body is an incredible device.
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shihhoucaim wrote:

well you've all made good points but none of you thought to think of more than bladed weapons...

in my opinion the best weapon would have to be The Human Body, mainly because of it's versatility in combat be close or ranged. the human body has, for centuries, been used as a weapon and has also CREATED weapons for it to use, so in this case the human body could use all of your weapons and use many other styles to kill you with. if a human is trained to kill with anything then it could do that in many more ways by using the imagination of the human mind. also as technological advances continue soon the human body will become the perfect weapon that cannot be broken or killed. i'll explain, with the technological advances we've made in the past hundred years is extrodinary to what the human race has done for all their excistence. Just think about it, we have now sent machines to mars and are right now comming up with a crew to send to mars at some point in the future. We have weapons that can actually wipe out every living thing on earth. We have devopled a way to clone something and are making nanomachines that can think for them selves.

If the human race continues at this rate then in no time we will have made and perfected the technoligy for living longer lives and making or bodies invunarable to all possible things that could harm or kill us. WE the Human Race are the Ultimate Weapon!!!

just try and beat this when even humans can create artificial inteligence.



Very good points. I agree with all but one.
The body is not a weapon as a weapon is defined as an object designed to kill or injure.
While anything may be USED as a weapon, only some things are classified AS a weapon.

Also I would question how a human could be technologically engineered to be invulnerable.

Nonetheless very good points and the human body is an incredible device.



I agree with Ice.However Shihhoucaim,I don't see how the human body if infact it were to BE a weapon(which as Ice pointed out it's not) I don't see how it could be a ranged weapon;nor do I understand how it could be the most versitile weapon when you yourself pointed out that weapons were created for the human bodies use.
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someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.
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someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are cowardice(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


I don't think people using guns is cowardice.
I think people using guns against people without guns is COWARDICE!
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like i said i couldnt think of a better way to describe it...i should probably think of a better way to describe it....
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carlrules097 wrote:

someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


Guns may be easy to use, but if you do not have any training, that use will not be sufficient enough in combat to cause any damage to an opponent.

The effectiveness of guns, like any weapon, are dependent upon the knowledge of the use and the personal skill in that use.

I also disagree about what you said about the katana. Such a thing is immoral and illegal in a modern world as the end result of such a fight would be death. You can't go around killing people.
And the Katana actually has little defensive capability.
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carlrules097 wrote:

someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


Guns may be easy to use, but if you do not have any training, that use will not be sufficient enough in combat to cause any damage to an opponent.

The effectiveness of guns, like any weapon, are dependent upon the knowledge of the use and the personal skill in that use.

I also disagree about what you said about the katana. Such a thing is immoral and illegal in a modern world as the end result of such a fight would be death. You can't go around killing people.
And the Katana actually has little defensive capability.


dont get me wrong i know its not a shield but a katana can be used to parry and set up for counters quite easily but that might be just me thinkin that
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carlrules097 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


carlrules097 wrote:

someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


Guns may be easy to use, but if you do not have any training, that use will not be sufficient enough in combat to cause any damage to an opponent.

The effectiveness of guns, like any weapon, are dependent upon the knowledge of the use and the personal skill in that use.

I also disagree about what you said about the katana. Such a thing is immoral and illegal in a modern world as the end result of such a fight would be death. You can't go around killing people.
And the Katana actually has little defensive capability.


dont get me wrong i know its not a shield but a katana can be used to parry and set up for counters quite easily but that might be just me thinkin that


Kenjutsu includes extremely little blade-on-blade combat.
In my years of being an Iaijutsu instructor and my experience in Yagyu Shinkage ryu Kenjutsu I have only witness oned parrying technique.

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carlrules097 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


carlrules097 wrote:

someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


Guns may be easy to use, but if you do not have any training, that use will not be sufficient enough in combat to cause any damage to an opponent.

The effectiveness of guns, like any weapon, are dependent upon the knowledge of the use and the personal skill in that use.

I also disagree about what you said about the katana. Such a thing is immoral and illegal in a modern world as the end result of such a fight would be death. You can't go around killing people.
And the Katana actually has little defensive capability.


dont get me wrong i know its not a shield but a katana can be used to parry and set up for counters quite easily but that might be just me thinkin that


It's just you thinking.

Katana VS Jutte
-----------------Sai
-----------------Tessen
-----------------Manrikigusari
--------and more
To many counters for item of such
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carlrules097 wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


carlrules097 wrote:

someones gonna hate me for this but i am a traditionalist so here it goes im just gonna say it and get it over with....

GUNS in my opinion, although very very effective, are easy...(for lack of a better term, if anyone has one i would love to hear cause i dont like calling it that), i still have the greatest respect for soldiers fighting in wars today DO NOT think i dont, but war before guns were based on skill of each individual, not that guns don't involve some level of skill, today you could take an opponent out with out them even seeing you.

I'm all traditionalist about fighting so i believe that it should be face to face one person skill against another. Most fights take place this way between close and middle range, so the most versatile weapon for a common fight would be the katana, its is perfectly designed for both offense and defense as well extends the arm a couple feet.


Guns may be easy to use, but if you do not have any training, that use will not be sufficient enough in combat to cause any damage to an opponent.

The effectiveness of guns, like any weapon, are dependent upon the knowledge of the use and the personal skill in that use.

I also disagree about what you said about the katana. Such a thing is immoral and illegal in a modern world as the end result of such a fight would be death. You can't go around killing people.
And the Katana actually has little defensive capability.


dont get me wrong i know its not a shield but a katana can be used to parry and set up for counters quite easily but that might be just me thinkin that


It's just you thinking.

Katana VS Jutte
Sai
Tessen
Manrikigusari
and more
To many counters for item of such


tis a good point
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