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Posted 1/23/08

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so is it a good or bad thing?


What, Geneon USA closing down? That's a bad thing.


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Posted 1/23/08
I am still waiting for Higurashi to come out here. The first volume isn't even out.
But maybe that means there will be new voice actors for it *crosses fingers*
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I am still waiting for Higurashi to come out here. The first volume isn't even out.
But maybe that means there will be new voice actors for it *crosses fingers*


Two volumes have come out already, that's it.
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Posted 1/23/08

astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.
Posted 1/23/08

firecrouch wrote:


cerisey wrote:

I am still waiting for Higurashi to come out here. The first volume isn't even out.
But maybe that means there will be new voice actors for it *crosses fingers*


Two volumes have come out already, that's it.


Not in my country. I live in New Zealand, so things tend to take a little longer to come out. Not sure why but... None have come out here yet, unless there is some secret little shop that has them imported or something.
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Posted 1/23/08

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astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online
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Posted 1/23/08

cerisey wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


cerisey wrote:

I am still waiting for Higurashi to come out here. The first volume isn't even out.
But maybe that means there will be new voice actors for it *crosses fingers*


Two volumes have come out already, that's it.


Not in my country. I live in New Zealand, so things tend to take a little longer to come out. Not sure why but... None have come out here yet, unless there is some secret little shop that has them imported or something.


Isn't Madman the only anime distributor over there?
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jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.
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Posted 1/23/08

firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care
Posted 1/23/08

firecrouch wrote:


cerisey wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


cerisey wrote:

I am still waiting for Higurashi to come out here. The first volume isn't even out.
But maybe that means there will be new voice actors for it *crosses fingers*


Two volumes have come out already, that's it.


Not in my country. I live in New Zealand, so things tend to take a little longer to come out. Not sure why but... None have come out here yet, unless there is some secret little shop that has them imported or something.


Isn't Madman the only anime distributor over there?


I am talking about the shops. I go online to gamesman or something. Madman too of course. Not everything I buy is madman though (just most of it) I'm not really sure how it works actually. But a lot of stuff takes longer to be in stores, than in America or something.
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Posted 1/23/08

astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care


You totally missed my point.
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Posted 1/23/08

firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care


You totally missed my point.


i get it already the creators wont get money but ppl would still buy gundam 00 on dvd when it comes out on subs too
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Posted 1/23/08

astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care


You totally missed my point.


i get it already the creators wont get money but ppl would still buy gundam 00 on dvd when it comes out on subs too


They're still losing money. There are more fans but there are currently less DVD sales because of fansubs. What anime companies need to do is have a good online distribution plan for people who just want to watch anime and have DVDs for the collectors.
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Posted 1/23/08

firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care


You totally missed my point.


i get it already the creators wont get money but ppl would still buy gundam 00 on dvd when it comes out on subs too


They're still losing money. There are more fans but there are currently less DVD sales because of fansubs. What anime companies need to do is have a good online distribution plan for people who just want to watch anime and have DVDs for the collectors.


ummm 1 anime companies in the USA sucks 2 i want originals no mods to it 3 DVD sales for both are not steady cause one whole season is like over $100 so thats why ppl download it
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Posted 1/23/08

astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


firecrouch wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:


jadenik wrote:


astraygoldframe wrote:

isnt this great news


Not for the people who wanto buy their anime dvds.


we;; i dont care i actually get my anime online


That's only making things worse. If people keep illegally downloading it means less money for the anime companies which means less anime being made in Japan.


uhhh one u can dl anime liek gundam 00 which are being sub so i dont care


You totally missed my point.


i get it already the creators wont get money but ppl would still buy gundam 00 on dvd when it comes out on subs too


They're still losing money. There are more fans but there are currently less DVD sales because of fansubs. What anime companies need to do is have a good online distribution plan for people who just want to watch anime and have DVDs for the collectors.


ummm 1 anime companies in the USA sucks 2 i want originals no mods to it 3 DVD sales for both are not steady cause one whole season is like over $100 so thats why ppl download it


1. Geneon USA's departure was sudden and surprising since they were such a good big company but they had it coming to them. All the other companies besides FUNimation have been downsizing because of guess what, illegal downloading hurting business. Instead, Geneon kept releasing more niche shows like "Zipang", "Kamichu", "When They Cry ", and "Rozen Maiden". The Japanese company that owned them didn't know what to do so they just shut them down.
2. The fansubs are just as modified as the official releases if not moreso. You get an English dub and the original Japanese version with a subtitle track, that's it. The fansubs are just one part of an DVD, and they aren't necessarily any better than what you get on a DVD. The one thing I hate about fansubs is that they usually don't even credit the people who actually made the anime, some quality there.
3. You're right, this is where the anime industry needs to change. The American licensors would do it as long the Japanese partners would let them, which I'm sure they will in the near future. My question is, if anime companies started providing reasonable legal alternatives to fansubs, would fans accept it with open arms or just keep demanding completely free anime without waiting for it to be officially released outside of Japan?
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