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Posted 2/9/13
Why?....Why, oh why? I never acted like this when I was their age.
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If it's true, the words "mentally ill" or "mentally disturbed" come to mind. At that age I was too busy playing with dolls and exploring my imagination. The real/outside world didn't really register much.
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I'am a bit impressed by those kids.
They had a goal, realized one can not do it alone. Split it into smaller tasks. Organized the tools. Even thought ahead to cleanup any traces.

And some people keep saying that the young people are egoists that can not work in groups/teams.
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Posted 2/9/13
what do they teach kids these days?
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Posted 2/9/13
Story almost 4 years old now. Hm, I wonder where are those children now?
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All because they were scolded for doing something wrong? What the heck are their parents doing???? There should be a law that parents have to spank their children for misbehaving. The world wasn't like this back when parents beat and even teachers beat the children to teach them right from wrong.
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Kira0309 wrote:

All because they were scolded for doing something wrong? What the heck are their parents doing???? There should be a law that parents have to spank their children for misbehaving. The world wasn't like this back when parents beat and even teachers beat the children to teach them right from wrong.


Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. People were definitely worse off in the past from these insufficient parenting methods because they were never given the knowledge of how to be a good person in the first place. Children do not learn right and wrong from physical abuse, they are much more likely to develop psychological problems that will distort their developing moral intuitions and lead to criminal activity. The only way they learn right from wrong is if they educate themselves or if they allow another person to educate them, violence does nothing to solve the problem.
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lordseth23 wrote:


Kira0309 wrote:

All because they were scolded for doing something wrong? What the heck are their parents doing???? There should be a law that parents have to spank their children for misbehaving. The world wasn't like this back when parents beat and even teachers beat the children to teach them right from wrong.


Sorry, but you couldn't be more wrong. People were definitely worse off in the past from these insufficient parenting methods because they were never given the knowledge of how to be a good person in the first place. Children do not learn right and wrong from physical abuse, they are much more likely to develop psychological problems that will distort their developing moral intuitions and lead to criminal activity. The only way they learn right from wrong is if they educate themselves or if they allow another person to educate them, violence does nothing to solve the problem.


Smacking a child on the ass is not considered violence. Beating them till their bloody is violence. Its called discipline and most children are not being disciplined by their parents which is why things like this happen. Both my brother, and myself, and my friends were all spanked when where were children and were not some messed up criminals as you suggest we should be.

Its sad that you have such a misguided view of the concept of discipline.

I am not going to argue with you on the subject but you need to seriously take a step back and look at the actual statistics of crime rate 60 years ago to the present day. Then ask yourself what has changed since then between parenting and society as a whole and what caused the drastic increase in crime. Obviously there a lot more factors involved than simply parents not disciplining their children, but it can not be ruled out that it is a possibility that it is always one of reasons.
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Kira0309 wrote:

Smacking a child on the ass is not considered violence. Beating them till their bloody is violence. Its called discipline and most children are not being disciplined by their parents which is why things like this happen. Both my brother, and myself, and my friends were all spanked when where were children and were not some messed up criminals as you suggest we should be.


How is smacking a child on the ass not considered violent?

You can instill discipline on a child by educating them, spanking them is not necessary. They learn how to be disciplined on their own. The only children that could commit these crimes are the uneducated ones, and these crimes would not happen if they were educated enough. If you are a good person, then you learned how to be a good person by educating yourself, spanking did not play any significant part in it.
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How dare young people obtain a brain.
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Nah. Not all kids will behave just because they are educated and understand everything better. Some kids have to learn that they aren't untouchable and can face harsher punishments for their actions. Spanking all the time of course isn't needed but for situations where the child has done something more severe I think it should be used. Kids are smart and most of them act out because they know that the most that will happen to them in many cases is being told they did wrong and possibly losing material items and not even permanently sometimes.
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Kira0309 wrote:



I am not going to argue with you on the subject but you need to seriously take a step back and look at the actual statistics of crime rate 60 years ago to the present day. Then ask yourself what has changed since then between parenting and society as a whole and what caused the drastic increase in crime. Obviously there a lot more factors involved than simply parents not disciplining their children, but it can not be ruled out that it is a possibility that it is always one of reasons.


Please cite a source that claims this. I have already looked at numerous statistics that show criminal behavior decreasing. I never said it wasn't one of the reasons, but you need to learn what proper parenting techniques consist of.
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lordseth23 wrote:


Kira0309 wrote:



I am not going to argue with you on the subject but you need to seriously take a step back and look at the actual statistics of crime rate 60 years ago to the present day. Then ask yourself what has changed since then between parenting and society as a whole and what caused the drastic increase in crime. Obviously there a lot more factors involved than simply parents not disciplining their children, but it can not be ruled out that it is a possibility that it is always one of reasons.


Please cite a source that claims this. I have already looked at numerous statistics that show criminal behavior decreasing. I never said it wasn't one of the reasons, but you need to learn what proper parenting techniques consist of.


Go to college and take a criminology class
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justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

Nah. Not all kids will behave just because they are educated and understand everything better. Some kids have to learn that they aren't untouchable and can face harsher punishments for their actions. Spanking all the time of course isn't needed but for situations where the child has done something more severe I think it should be used. Kids are smart and most of them act out because they know that the most that will happen to them in many cases is being told they did wrong and possibly losing material items and not even permanently sometimes.


Exactly, they need to learn this, which is what I meant by education.

Why do you think that spanking is necessary for some situations?

Once they are properly educated, they will never think about acting out again.
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Kira0309 wrote:

Go to college and take a criminology class


And what would I learn there that you already know?
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