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Posted 8/19/08

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hey Ice, I have a question... so like have you ever heard about Tai Shing Pek Kwar? and another thing have you ever tried to get into a class of Tai Shing Pek Kwar or have you just tried Pek Kwar?


I have heard of it. I have not taken it though.
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On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


Well that's 150 feet to 400 feet roughly.
It's pretty far in bow terms. The yumi is a considerably long distance bow. Though now you can hit that with a modern bow. A recurve has a bit more resistance and therefore more power.

Don't be silly, ignorance is natural. It is us who are intelligent who strive to overcome ignorance. Never apologize for that. It would be like apologizing for breathing.
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


Well that's 150 feet to 400 feet roughly.
It's pretty far in bow terms. The yumi is a considerably long distance bow. Though now you can hit that with a modern bow. A recurve has a bit more resistance and therefore more power.

Don't be silly, ignorance is natural. It is us who are intelligent who strive to overcome ignorance. Never apologize for that. It would be like apologizing for breathing.


hahaha...150 feet...i looked it up, that's VERY far...>.< I would think they used it for hunting as well. I watched some documentary on old weaponry or something like that (it was in Chinese so i didn't quite understand all of it) The guy was talking about how you regulate your breathing when you draw the string and inhale when you release. (i think its inhale) It help you stabilize your hold on the bow and arrow he says.

I tried imitating it with my sister's toy bow...don't think i did a very good experiment

(side note: did you know the yoyo was made in the Philippines as a hunting weapons? how awesome is that!)
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


Well that's 150 feet to 400 feet roughly.
It's pretty far in bow terms. The yumi is a considerably long distance bow. Though now you can hit that with a modern bow. A recurve has a bit more resistance and therefore more power.

Don't be silly, ignorance is natural. It is us who are intelligent who strive to overcome ignorance. Never apologize for that. It would be like apologizing for breathing.


hahaha...150 feet...i looked it up, that's VERY far...>.< I would think they used it for hunting as well. I watched some documentary on old weaponry or something like that (it was in Chinese so i didn't quite understand all of it) The guy was talking about how you regulate your breathing when you draw the string and inhale when you release. (i think its inhale) It help you stabilize your hold on the bow and arrow he says.

I tried imitating it with my sister's toy bow...don't think i did a very good experiment

(side note: did you know the yoyo was made in the Philippines as a hunting weapons? how awesome is that!)


Interesting. Though with my Remington 700 I can hit my mark on close to 1000 yards if the wind is accommodating.
That's a sniper shot though.

And no I did not know that about the yoyo. Very interesting.
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I know close to nothing on guns but i have heard shooting isn't as easy as it looks. And as you've mentioned the wind plays a very important role as well as how the person handle the gun i suppose. hmm, i'd like to try shooting sometime XD

I read the yoyo think on a bottle cap, those little trivia thingos ^_^
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On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


well let's say that a yumi is more than one meter in height (sometimes one and a half even 2 meters) and also another important thing this is an type of bow who is mostly used by the warriors on a horseback while let's say nowadays archery (in the western lands the traditional archery had mostly a practical purpose - hunt) as a sport in a competition can go from 20, 30 to 80 meters, i think there are some rules regarding the indoor and outdoor competition but i don't know for sure.
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


well let's say that a yumi is more than one meter in height (sometimes one and a half even 2 meters) and also another important thing this is an type of bow who is mostly used by the warriors on a horseback while let's say nowadays archery (in the western lands the traditional archery had mostly a practical purpose - hunt) as a sport in a competition can go from 20, 30 to 80 meters, i think there are some rules regarding the indoor and outdoor competition but i don't know for sure.


oh....so it wasn't for hunting as well i've never actually seen competition but i think it'll be interesting to sit in one.
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shihhoucaim wrote:

hey Ice, I have a question... so like have you ever heard about Tai Shing Pek Kwar? and another thing have you ever tried to get into a class of Tai Shing Pek Kwar or have you just tried Pek Kwar?


I have heard of it. I have not taken it though.
Monkey Gong'Fu, right?


Well yes and no. It is actually a mixture of Monkey Kong Fu, Pek Kwar (Axe Fist) and other things. The teachers who first taught Tai Shing Pek Kwar only taught the full Monkey Kong Fu style once the student had mastered Pek Kwar and if the student was dilegent and trustworthy.
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shihhoucaim wrote:


Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:


shihhoucaim wrote:

hey Ice, I have a question... so like have you ever heard about Tai Shing Pek Kwar? and another thing have you ever tried to get into a class of Tai Shing Pek Kwar or have you just tried Pek Kwar?


I have heard of it. I have not taken it though.
Monkey Gong'Fu, right?


Well yes and no. It is actually a mixture of Monkey Kong Fu, Pek Kwar (Axe Fist) and other things. The teachers who first taught Tai Shing Pek Kwar only taught the full Monkey Kong Fu style once the student had mastered Pek Kwar and if the student was dilegent and trustworthy.


I see. Interesting.
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


well let's say that a yumi is more than one meter in height (sometimes one and a half even 2 meters) and also another important thing this is an type of bow who is mostly used by the warriors on a horseback while let's say nowadays archery (in the western lands the traditional archery had mostly a practical purpose - hunt) as a sport in a competition can go from 20, 30 to 80 meters, i think there are some rules regarding the indoor and outdoor competition but i don't know for sure.


oh....so it wasn't for hunting as well i've never actually seen competition but i think it'll be interesting to sit in one.

The yumi was first and foremost a weapon.
Marjan speaks of the longbow yumi.
There was such a hankyu which was a shortbow and was used also for hunting.
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ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...
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ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...


cleansing? i think u reffer to a sort of a religious ritual? well is more or less i mean you must treat your yumi as a human - mean9ing that you have to treat it well, show it respect and never step on it - that's a great offense! your yumi is your partner in battle so it has to be treated as that. i mean can you step on your best friend and hurt him/her with no mercy? well that it feels like when you "mistreat" a yumi ...... also about tha fact they were seen as cleanising items ...don't know what exactly to tell....there were this kind of rituals but that is more connected to shamans and shamanism. there was an old ritual of pointing the arrows to the sky in order to eliminate all the evil powers, to kill the evil spirits, but this is also a common practice for Siberian shamans not only for the Japanese shamans. also there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits....anyway there are a lot of legends...hope i've been useful.. this one of my favourite topics ... and also Ice is right i am agreat fan of the daikyu ...that because i am a shortie
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kokomousey wrote:

ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...


cleansing? i think u reffer to a sort of a religious ritual? well is more or less i mean you must treat your yumi as a human - mean9ing that you have to treat it well, show it respect and never step on it - that's a great offense! your yumi is your partner in battle so it has to be treated as that. i mean can you step on your best friend and hurt him/her with no mercy? well that it feels like when you "mistreat" a yumi ...... also about tha fact they were seen as cleanising items ...don't know what exactly to tell....there were this kind of rituals but that is more connected to shamans and shamanism. there was an old ritual of pointing the arrows to the sky in order to eliminate all the evil powers, to kill the evil spirits, but this is also a common practice for Siberian shamans not only for the Japanese shamans. also there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits....anyway there are a lot of legends...hope i've been useful.. this one of my favourite topics ... and also Ice is right i am agreat fan of the daikyu ...that because i am a shortie


Exactly what you were talking about the shamans and stuff...That was what i was referring to by cleansing, by eliminating evil spirits XD
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kokomousey wrote:


marjan007 wrote:


kokomousey wrote:

ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...


cleansing? i think u reffer to a sort of a religious ritual? well is more or less i mean you must treat your yumi as a human - mean9ing that you have to treat it well, show it respect and never step on it - that's a great offense! your yumi is your partner in battle so it has to be treated as that. i mean can you step on your best friend and hurt him/her with no mercy? well that it feels like when you "mistreat" a yumi ...... also about tha fact they were seen as cleanising items ...don't know what exactly to tell....there were this kind of rituals but that is more connected to shamans and shamanism. there was an old ritual of pointing the arrows to the sky in order to eliminate all the evil powers, to kill the evil spirits, but this is also a common practice for Siberian shamans not only for the Japanese shamans. also there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits....anyway there are a lot of legends...hope i've been useful.. this one of my favourite topics ... and also Ice is right i am agreat fan of the daikyu ...that because i am a shortie


Exactly what you were talking about the shamans and stuff...That was what i was referring to by cleansing, by eliminating evil spirits XD


There is no shamanism in Japan.
However, the yumi is used in purification rituals in Onmyojutsu.
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