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I am looking for a list of good samurai and martial art anime. I am trying to find the most realistic [in technique, I don't care if the story is far out, I just want to see some reasonably realistic (or atleast inspired) martial arts] anime I can find.

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idk.lol. hmm you sure do have time. I guess its time for you to start reading mangas online.
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try roroni kenshin then ice
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try roroni kenshin then ice


Thanks man, but that's a bit too far out. I am asking for something with some similarity to real martial arts.
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

I am looking for a list of good samurai and martial art anime. I am trying to find the most realistic [in technique, I don't care if the story is far out, I just want to see some reasonably realistic (or atleast inspired) martial arts] anime I can find.

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LOL, your not asking for much are you? That's up there with looking for a romance anime with no kissing. Hard too find, I can only think of animes that are realistic but doesn't have much martial arts in them. The realistic ones tend to have less emphasis on the action. I can only think of the movie Sword of the Stranger, good realistic martial arts(warning some of it not), no romance, good plot and not too far out there.

Anime series I could think of: Samaria Champloo, Cowboy Bebop
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Ice_Blue_Eyes wrote:

I am looking for a list of good samurai and martial art anime. I am trying to find the most realistic [in technique, I don't care if the story is far out, I just want to see some reasonably realistic (or atleast inspired) martial arts] anime I can find.

Suggestions?


LOL, your not asking for much are you? That's up there with looking for a romance anime with no kissing. Hard too find, I can only think of animes that are realistic but doesn't have much martial arts in them. The realistic ones tend to have less emphasis on the action. I can only think of the movie Sword of the Stranger, good realistic martial arts(warning some of it not), no romance, good plot and not too far out there.

Anime series I could think of: Samaria Champloo, Cowboy Bebop


Hey it's not that hard. Take Kazemakaze Tsukikage Ran. Some of Shura no Toki and Peacemaker Kurogane have realistic combat. The swordsmanship on PMK was modeled after Tennin Rishin ryu. It's of course an exaggeration, but it's still practical.
There's a lot of it out there, but it's not mainstream in America.

Sword of The Stranger was excellent! I just finished watching it. I liked that while it was action packed and violent, it also had some heartwarming cuteness between Kotaru, Nanashi, and Tobimaru.
I ended it wanting more. Great story.
See it doesn't have to be exact replica of koryu kata or anything, I just get annoyed with the crazy stuff that people do.
Cowboy Bebop does have realistic martial arts. Spike's fighting techniques is near exact JKD techniques as well.

Champloo is fun... If they didn't have that annoying Mugen. His stuff is a bit too over the top.

On another note; I am starting Library Wars now.


But keep the recommendations coming, everyone!

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On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


koko if i amnot wrong you have Chinese origins......anyway hope i am right because now is my turn to ask something - do you have any idea about an ART PRINCIPLE called chi yun???
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please answear me when you have the time ok?
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


koko if i amnot wrong you have Chinese origins......anyway hope i am right because now is my turn to ask something - do you have any idea about an ART PRINCIPLE called chi yun???


*party poppers go off* yep...You got that right. Hmm...Chi Yun, as in the circulation of chi? I'm not good when it comes to romanizing of Chinese characters.

If i've guessed it right, then it's something like Tai chi in Taoism. I actually don't know much of this area as i've never really taken notice of it before But I don't mind looking up some info and asking around if you don't mind the wait, been busy with uni assessments and such....unless someone beats me to it
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


koko if i amnot wrong you have Chinese origins......anyway hope i am right because now is my turn to ask something - do you have any idea about an ART PRINCIPLE called chi yun???


*party poppers go off* yep...You got that right. Hmm...Chi Yun, as in the circulation of chi? I'm not good when it comes to romanizing of Chinese characters.

If i've guessed it right, then it's something like Tai chi in Taoism. I actually don't know much of this area as i've never really taken notice of it before But I don't mind looking up some info and asking around if you don't mind the wait, been busy with uni assessments and such....unless someone beats me to it


i don't know ...maybe is related to religious facts but i m not very sure ....i 've met this notion for the first time in a history of art book, also the spelling is something like this ch'i yun - but anyway i shall also do my research , but if come up with something let me know ok? and thanks anyway....and good luck with uni assigments ..i do knoew how it is i also have my projects and i am quite sure i won't be able to finish them in time
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ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...


cleansing? i think u reffer to a sort of a religious ritual? well is more or less i mean you must treat your yumi as a human - mean9ing that you have to treat it well, show it respect and never step on it - that's a great offense! your yumi is your partner in battle so it has to be treated as that. i mean can you step on your best friend and hurt him/her with no mercy? well that it feels like when you "mistreat" a yumi ...... also about tha fact they were seen as cleanising items ...don't know what exactly to tell....there were this kind of rituals but that is more connected to shamans and shamanism. there was an old ritual of pointing the arrows to the sky in order to eliminate all the evil powers, to kill the evil spirits, but this is also a common practice for Siberian shamans not only for the Japanese shamans. also there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits....anyway there are a lot of legends...hope i've been useful.. this one of my favourite topics ... and also Ice is right i am agreat fan of the daikyu ...that because i am a shortie


The arrow is often used in Shinto rituals not normally the actual bow itself. Technically there is no shamanism in Japan, the closest you get is Regional Shinto Practices. The arrow however is not used as a cleansing ritual (or at least that I have ever heard of). Normally a priest will bless an arrow that can hang in the home to ward off evil, and bring good health.
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kokomousey wrote:

On the subject of archery, how far are they capable of shooting? Is it the same as the yumi or do they use something similar/different? 'cause the yumi shoots around 50m? 100m? is that considered far? I apologies for my ignorance...i have no measure of distance >.<


Well that's 150 feet to 400 feet roughly.
It's pretty far in bow terms. The yumi is a considerably long distance bow. Though now you can hit that with a modern bow. A recurve has a bit more resistance and therefore more power.

Don't be silly, ignorance is natural. It is us who are intelligent who strive to overcome ignorance. Never apologize for that. It would be like apologizing for breathing.


hahaha...150 feet...i looked it up, that's VERY far...>.< I would think they used it for hunting as well. I watched some documentary on old weaponry or something like that (it was in Chinese so i didn't quite understand all of it) The guy was talking about how you regulate your breathing when you draw the string and inhale when you release. (i think its inhale) It help you stabilize your hold on the bow and arrow he says.

I tried imitating it with my sister's toy bow...don't think i did a very good experiment

(side note: did you know the yoyo was made in the Philippines as a hunting weapons? how awesome is that!)


You can hunt with a yumi, but it would be a mounted hunt only since the yumi is normally over six feet in length. That would be hard to move on foot dragging it around, plus it gets caught on everything. As for the breathing you inhale on the draw and exhale after you release the arrow. It is to help stabilize you as you shoot. This is taught in every type of archery that I have ever encountered. The firing distance of any bow depends on many factors including the bows composition, how tight it is strung, the actual shape, weather, terrain, and the person shooting. The yumi however is more for war than hunting although as stated earlier was used on mounted hunts, but it was developed more for piercing armour on the battlefield. Also you need to consider the fact that most Japanese did not actually hunt since most are Buddhist or Shinto and were largely vegetarian in the past (fish was an exception).
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Tips on how to write a college worthy/type of essay. Tips for the development of a thesis statement, tips on the organization of the essay and organizing the support for the argument. unfortunately I have no one to help I and do not qualify be my own means for tutoring, nor is it available. I ask for tips. If I wanted you to do the work for me I'd post the link up for the work. But I'm not asking that. Just tips. Help this student please. I know you have something. I was gonna make this a topic but it didn't fit the group. the only connection there is is that this is for AP european history. Help is much much much appreciated.
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Tips on how to write a college worthy/type of essay. Tips for the development of a thesis statement, tips on the organization of the essay and organizing the support for the argument. unfortunately I have no one to help I and do not qualify be my own means for tutoring, nor is it available. I ask for tips. If I wanted you to do the work for me I'd post the link up for the work. But I'm not asking that. Just tips. Help this student please. I know you have something. I was gonna make this a topic but it didn't fit the group. the only connection there is is that this is for AP european history. Help is much much much appreciated. :)


Your initial thesis statement should be short to the point and in your opening paragraph. Don't be afraid to be elaborate in supporting ideas, some professors actually prefer this. I have posted excerpts from a few of my own papers, look under Japanese History thread and you can see two examples. I took out the footnotes on them when I posted here, but I did have some. An English professor once told me try to keep footnotes to one or two per paragraph any more than that and all you did was make an informative compilation work. The point of a thesis is too make you think, and then explain a topic to someone. I always used the approach of when writing pretend that my audience knows absolutely nothing about the topic what so ever. I'll give an example I wrote a paper called "Pivotal Moments in the Code of Honour of the Samurai" , I chose sixteen events in Japanese History that I felt were turning points in the history of the Samurai. I gave background information on the main people involved and what events led up to the main event listed. This information is vital to someone with no knowledge of Japanese History, it helps them understand the true situation. I hope this helps, I normally just read my colleague's dissertations and thesis's and then give pointers, I always blew the curve in writing so everyone always came to me for corrections.
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kokomousey wrote:

ohh i see i see. I love them bows they were also seen as cleansing items right? I don't know the actual term for it...


cleansing? i think u reffer to a sort of a religious ritual? well is more or less i mean you must treat your yumi as a human - mean9ing that you have to treat it well, show it respect and never step on it - that's a great offense! your yumi is your partner in battle so it has to be treated as that. i mean can you step on your best friend and hurt him/her with no mercy? well that it feels like when you "mistreat" a yumi ...... also about tha fact they were seen as cleanising items ...don't know what exactly to tell....there were this kind of rituals but that is more connected to shamans and shamanism. there was an old ritual of pointing the arrows to the sky in order to eliminate all the evil powers, to kill the evil spirits, but this is also a common practice for Siberian shamans not only for the Japanese shamans. also there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits....anyway there are a lot of legends...hope i've been useful.. this one of my favourite topics ... and also Ice is right i am agreat fan of the daikyu ...that because i am a shortie


The arrow is often used in Shinto rituals not normally the actual bow itself. Technically there is no shamanism in Japan, the closest you get is Regional Shinto Practices. The arrow however is not used as a cleansing ritual (or at least that I have ever heard of). Normally a priest will bless an arrow that can hang in the home to ward off evil, and bring good health.


well ice said the same but i again state the fact that the shamanism the way we understand it , it may not be as u say - i mean not having the same main feature like that from Siberia or Mongolia but there is still is - there are old remains of that ancinte practices for refference u can use Ennciclopedia Britannica or the Asian dictionary of mythology (i made these refferences when talking with ice) also u can check the history of religion by Mircea Eliade, of course technically all can be included in the large sphere of omnyoujitsu but this will be too simple ........ but omyoujitsu is the Japanese form of shamanism to be more precise...or that is what i think and what others researchers think.i mean i am not that great is just use their knowledge.....also another "addenda" the practices that i mentioned there also "there's a legend that they used to point the arrows to the sky in order to make a ladder for the shaman to go to sky in order to have a genuine contact with superior spirits." - are charcateristic for the Siberian rituals....my mistake for not making this clear from the beginning (mario mercier - "shamans and shamanism")
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