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I don't like Takumi at all, but at times, I see him in the manga, and in realize that I'm a female version of him, so I kind of sympathize with him, except for the part that he's very controlling with Hachi.
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Finally!! There's someone out there who thought Twilight sucks. I'm sick of all those people who claim that Twilight was "awesome." I thought the movie SUCKED and it did SUCK. I hope there's not going to be a sequel. Leave the books alone. But I'll feel a little better if they get a different director.

Anyways, yes, I agree with you. The author of Nana is very realistic. She shows all the different sides of a human and their relationship problems. Ai is able to show the best and worst out of all the major relationships from the manga, Nana. TakumixHachi and RenxNana, definitley had their ups and downs. But that's reality, and that's why the manga is so good and addicting.

Yes, women do cheat. But i doubt that Hachi will cheat on Takumi right now. Maybe in the future, with Nobu? (But even I highly doubt that...she seems busy being a mom, working, and being too preocupied with the missing Nana O.). I hope Hachi doesn't cheat on Takumi even though he deserves it (or at least asking for it).


just knowing the plot of twilight makes me hate the book -_- you want a good author read junichiro tanizaki!!!!!!!!!!! To answer the next post after you I think ren birth is first I mean come on its pretty obvious and it would seem more appropriate for the first baby to be a boy and honor ren death by naming her son after him. Its a bit sad I would have loved to see ren holding the babies. I mean out of everyone he wanted to be a father the most so its sad to see him gone.
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The thing I dont like about Takumi is his obession with work. One of the main reasons he slept with Reira was not simply to comfort her but because he knows that without Reira, Trapnest will fall. He has to keep her happy so he slept with her for Trapnest's sake. Also remember how at first he kept pushing back the date for his and Hachi's wedding? As soon as stories of Ren and Reira came to light he decided to marry Hachi, not because he was ready and loved her but because it would keep the light off of the two most popular members of the band. Keep this in mind too, he found out about Ren's addiction but instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own. In the end he only cared about Trapnest's image so he gave Ren time off only for that reason. There is only one thing I like about this guy...his blunt honesty. There was a scene where Hachi mentions something about him and other women and he says cooly to her; "I do think about other women, but you're the only one I love." I love how he doesn't make excuses and dont pretend to give a care about anything besides Trapnest. I still don't like him because he's shallow but I gotta give him praise for at least one personality trait of his.
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The thing I dont like about Takumi is his obession with work. One of the main reasons he slept with Reira was not simply to comfort her but because he knows that without Reira, Trapnest will fall. He has to keep her happy so he slept with her for Trapnest's sake. Also remember how at first he kept pushing back the date for his and Hachi's wedding? As soon as stories of Ren and Reira came to light he decided to marry Hachi, not because he was ready and loved her but because it would keep the light off of the two most popular members of the band. Keep this in mind too, he found out about Ren's addiction but instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own. In the end he only cared about Trapnest's image so he gave Ren time off only for that reason. There is only one thing I like about this guy...his blunt honesty. There was a scene where Hachi mentions something about him and other women and he says cooly to her; "I do think about other women, but you're the only one I love." I love how he doesn't make excuses and dont pretend to give a care about anything besides Trapnest. I still don't like him because he's shallow but I gotta give him praise for at least one personality trait of his.


thats reality my dear there are people who have this personaity and there are those who have even worse but can we all say we don't have our own flaws? Can we say were not shallow at some point? or can we be alittle selfish. For me takumi reminds me as human beings we all have major flaws and in the end like he said "In the end of the day you love yourself the most you need someone that you will love enough to please you and stay with" Thats why hachi stays with him one because he sees right through her like glass and two she sees him like he is and loves him for that. In the end of the day we are just we.
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The thing I dont like about Takumi is his obession with work. One of the main reasons he slept with Reira was not simply to comfort her but because he knows that without Reira, Trapnest will fall. He has to keep her happy so he slept with her for Trapnest's sake. Also remember how at first he kept pushing back the date for his and Hachi's wedding? As soon as stories of Ren and Reira came to light he decided to marry Hachi, not because he was ready and loved her but because it would keep the light off of the two most popular members of the band. Keep this in mind too, he found out about Ren's addiction but instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own. In the end he only cared about Trapnest's image so he gave Ren time off only for that reason. There is only one thing I like about this guy...his blunt honesty. There was a scene where Hachi mentions something about him and other women and he says cooly to her; "I do think about other women, but you're the only one I love." I love how he doesn't make excuses and dont pretend to give a care about anything besides Trapnest. I still don't like him because he's shallow but I gotta give him praise for at least one personality trait of his.


thats reality my dear there are people who have this personaity and there are those who have even worse but can we all say we don't have our own flaws? Can we say were not shallow at some point? or can we be alittle selfish. For me takumi reminds me as human beings we all have major flaws and in the end like he said "In the end of the day you love yourself the most you need someone that you will love enough to please you and stay with" Thats why hachi stays with him one because he sees right through her like glass and two she sees him like he is and loves him for that. In the end of the day we are just we.



I agree with you Kyoko019. And I'm a huge supporter of the TakumixHachi relationship. Believe me, i want them to stay together forever. And I want them to work out their problems together and get over the miscommunication, etc.

But after reading all the flashforwards so far. I feel like the TakumixHachi relationship isn't going to last (I hope it does). Yes, I support and understand the fact how Hachi still supports her man, takumi. But I feel like, their personalities are too different to stay with one another. Yes, they both love each other in their own ways, but I'm beginning to feel that their love will not keep them together. That they need more than love, to keep the relationship going. Which is very realistic, b/c there are a lot of couples out there who can't really stay together b/c of the problems and personality clashings they have, despite the fact that they love each other.

I know, that in the manga that Hachi stated that she "still loves Takumi up to this day" in the flashforwards, but I'm just not sure if they're really going to resume their relationship in the future if she finds Nana.

Japan is hachi's home. that's where all her memories, friends, and family are. And Satsuki loves the Blast members and Miu, and probably her other family members. Plus, Japan is the place where hachi met Nana and shared room 707 together. I'm not sure if she'll want to abandon that place, if she's able to find Nana O. and convince her to stay in Japan. And if she does find Nana O, and if Nana O wants to stay in Japan then I'll doubt that Hachi would want to move to England. Especially if she doesn't know English.

Takumi is also probably use to his life in England. And little Ren seems to love England as well b/c he keeps trying to run away from Japan every time he visits (but I think it's b/c he doesn't want to be seperated from his dad).

Plus, I'm really enjoying Nobu right now. I always adored Nobu and hachi. I always thought that Nobu was Hachi's true soul mate. They seem much wiser in the flashforwards and they just might get together if Takumi and hachi decide to divorce.

I hope takumi and hachi stay together...but I'm gettting my doubts.

Right now, I just want Hachi to hurry and give birth to the damn kids. I'm hoping she has twins, b/c i think that would be really cute. And I still want takumi to be the biological father but it would make sense if nobu is the biological dad.

I hope that they'll work out their differences.

Sorry for rambling. I always give you a long reply.

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Shit, I hope Takumi doesn't sleep with reira again. if he does...man...

and i don't want reira to hook up with shin again. shin deserves better. i want shin to hook up with satsuki...
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Kyoko019 wrote:


alipink wrote:

The thing I dont like about Takumi is his obession with work. One of the main reasons he slept with Reira was not simply to comfort her but because he knows that without Reira, Trapnest will fall. He has to keep her happy so he slept with her for Trapnest's sake. Also remember how at first he kept pushing back the date for his and Hachi's wedding? As soon as stories of Ren and Reira came to light he decided to marry Hachi, not because he was ready and loved her but because it would keep the light off of the two most popular members of the band. Keep this in mind too, he found out about Ren's addiction but instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own. In the end he only cared about Trapnest's image so he gave Ren time off only for that reason. There is only one thing I like about this guy...his blunt honesty. There was a scene where Hachi mentions something about him and other women and he says cooly to her; "I do think about other women, but you're the only one I love." I love how he doesn't make excuses and dont pretend to give a care about anything besides Trapnest. I still don't like him because he's shallow but I gotta give him praise for at least one personality trait of his.


thats reality my dear there are people who have this personaity and there are those who have even worse but can we all say we don't have our own flaws? Can we say were not shallow at some point? or can we be alittle selfish. For me takumi reminds me as human beings we all have major flaws and in the end like he said "In the end of the day you love yourself the most you need someone that you will love enough to please you and stay with" Thats why hachi stays with him one because he sees right through her like glass and two she sees him like he is and loves him for that. In the end of the day we are just we.



I agree with you Kyoko019. And I'm a huge supporter of the TakumixHachi relationship. Believe me, i want them to stay together forever. And I want them to work out their problems together and get over the miscommunication, etc.

But after reading all the flashforwards so far. I feel like the TakumixHachi relationship isn't going to last (I hope it does). Yes, I support and understand the fact how Hachi still supports her man, takumi. But I feel like, their personalities are too different to stay with one another. Yes, they both love each other in their own ways, but I'm beginning to feel that their love will not keep them together. That they need more than love, to keep the relationship going. Which is very realistic, b/c there are a lot of couples out there who can't really stay together b/c of the problems and personality clashings they have, despite the fact that they love each other.

I know, that in the manga that Hachi stated that she "still loves Takumi up to this day" in the flashforwards, but I'm just not sure if they're really going to resume their relationship in the future if she finds Nana.

Japan is hachi's home. that's where all her memories, friends, and family are. And Satsuki loves the Blast members and Miu, and probably her other family members. Plus, Japan is the place where hachi met Nana and shared room 707 together. I'm not sure if she'll want to abandon that place, if she's able to find Nana O. and convince her to stay in Japan. And if she does find Nana O, and if Nana O wants to stay in Japan then I'll doubt that Hachi would want to move to England. Especially if she doesn't know English.

Takumi is also probably use to his life in England. And little Ren seems to love England as well b/c he keeps trying to run away from Japan every time he visits (but I think it's b/c he doesn't want to be seperated from his dad).

Plus, I'm really enjoying Nobu right now. I always adored Nobu and hachi. I always thought that Nobu was Hachi's true soul mate. They seem much wiser in the flashforwards and they just might get together if Takumi and hachi decide to divorce.

I hope takumi and hachi stay together...but I'm gettting my doubts.

Right now, I just want Hachi to hurry and give birth to the damn kids. I'm hoping she has twins, b/c i think that would be really cute. And I still want takumi to be the biological father but it would make sense if nobu is the biological dad.

I hope that they'll work out their differences.

Sorry for rambling. I always give you a long reply.



I love you and yes but I wonder why ren isn't so close to his mom hachi? that bothers me a little doesn't he want to see his mother ans sister? I never said I hated Nobu but that he wasn't at the mentality yet for a stable relationship seeing him now I'm so happy that he has finally grown up and god damn I want those babies born already there is only so much that I can take >_<

I agree there doesn't look like a reconciliation of takumi and hachi in the future I wonder what could have happened that makes hachi look so sad when takumi is mentioned? It must have been extreme I hope in the future reira doesn't get together with him despit her flaws right now she is acting like a spoiled little princess and I'm not liking that at ALLL!!!!!!!!! Since we met her she hasn't grown up at all. I hope this incident slaps her in the face or something.

Sadly my love I'm thinking the births won't happen in awhile hey maybe it will be our x-mas gift 0o0 the next chapter is december something we can hope right?


You I have said this b4 but the thing I would've wanted to the most and the first person I would've wanted to hold the baby was ren. I know I bring it up alot but I just feel he out of all people deserves it he wanted to be a father the most and it would have cool to see him hold the baby ^_^ I think.

I actually starting to wonder when the series when end I see its reaching its climax now we have to see hows it going to end no?
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Shit, I hope Takumi doesn't sleep with reira again. if he does...man...

and i don't want reira to hook up with shin again. shin deserves better. i want shin to hook up with satsuki...


LOL Hachi gonna kill Shin The reason Shin is not with Reira is because whenever she has problems, he is not the one whom she runs to, it's always Takumi or Yasu or even Naoki ( laugh!) but never Shin, that's what I think ^^ but I agree with you that Shin deserves someone better. I bet the one he loves in the future will be someone with a warm heart Hachi
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I’ll say that Takumi was ready and love her on his own way but didn’t get chance back then. When ren and reira were about to form a scandal it was prevented by takumi. He is taking advantage of the situation by simply exposing his marriage to the public this may not sound genuine but I think of it as blessing in disguise. By revealing his status takumi can go out with hachi without creating a commotion and that’s what takumi and hachi wants. Actually, it was their gain coz if it weren’t for ren and reira I guess it will take time to get another chance. Hence, the publishing company was tricked by takumi.

“instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own”

I don’t really know what you want Takumi to do to help Ren but in his case no one can help ren but himself. The manager who thinks that giving him toy will help was so wrong and that takumi punched him. Takumi did even try calling nana thinking that will help ren but nana ignore his warning. He did all the things that might help ren but with no result. He is not a hero after all so it was so sad to see ren die.

The only reason why I like takumi is that he has unique personality that so rare to see a character similar to him in any manga but tons of guys like him in real life. He is a bad guy I know that but he does good things as well and he is trying to be good…

I agree when you said he is blunt honest…

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I want shin to hook up with satsuki too…
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I’ll say that Takumi was ready and love her on his own way but didn’t get chance back then. When ren and reira were about to form a scandal it was prevented by takumi. He is taking advantage of the situation by simply exposing his marriage to the public this may not sound genuine but I think of it as blessing in disguise. By revealing his status takumi can go out with hachi without creating a commotion and that’s what takumi and hachi wants. Actually, it was their gain coz if it weren’t for ren and reira I guess it will take time to get another chance. Hence, the publishing company was tricked by takumi.

“instead of being a good friend and help get Ren the help he needs he tells him to deal with it on his own”

I don’t really know what you want Takumi to do to help Ren but in his case no one can help ren but himself. The manager who thinks that giving him toy will help was so wrong and that takumi punched him. Takumi did even try calling nana thinking that will help ren but nana ignore his warning. He did all the things that might help ren but with no result. He is not a hero after all so it was so sad to see ren die.

The only reason why I like takumi is that he has unique personality that so rare to see a character similar to him in any manga but tons of guys like him in real life. He is a bad guy I know that but he does good things as well and he is trying to be good…

I agree when you said he is blunt honest…

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I want shin to hook up with satsuki too…


I never disagree with you lol I feel sometimes when I see satsuki I feel she gets a little older ^_^ Sorry I haven't responded back to you yet School killed me and the free time I had I will respond to you soon.

I agree there is only so much takumi can do in this situation he is not superman!!!!!!!!! He tried all he could and sadly things ended up this way. So sad now I want to see what NANA will do to make her escape!!!!!
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takumi is the kind of character that makes you love him and hate him in the same time.he is cold, inteligent and he never does things without a reason.at least this is what it sames.but in reallity he isn't that bad. sometimes you want to kill him and sometimes you want to hug him.this is what makes him so adorable. the story wouldn't have charm without him. and he really loves hachi he just doesn't show it that much. reira for him is like his sister.he cares about her that's way he slept with her (and because he didn't wanted her to leave the band),. in the end takumi changed.he and hachi make a good couple.they complete each other, he is cold and she is warm.he suports her and gives her strenth.and she is the one that give him the loving family he never had.the only thing i hate him for is for cheating on her.
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err.FYI..in chap 80's summary, Atkumi is acting like a jerk again ( from my point of view that is). Darn it! Why don't you just go straightly to hell Takumi?
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Yes, what's with that? He doesn't miss the chance to hug Reira and he completely ignores his pregnant wife, who he should be more concerned about.
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when I saw takumi hugging reira I was really mad like hell. After calmed down, I realized it wasn’t that bad at all and he was not being jerk he did what he can do to comfort her everyone is affected by ren’s death but for the band among the other members it was reira who was most affected that is why naoki and takumi were there to console. About hachi being ignores I don’t think that was the case. She is pregnant but I don’t think she needs comfort than the others, she in fact gives strength to takumi and I’m sure she is more worried about nana than her own husband.
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