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The Downfall of Anime
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Don't forget pokemon, digimon and all the other ______mons that came out... the Anime market seems to be focusing on the "kiddie" crowd, such that the anime we see is somewhat less than spectacular.

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Don't worry, I'll go into the anime business and give you guys good stuff!!! ROAR!!! Who wants to join me!? :3 Ok in all seriousness, I never saw any oldy shows... I really haven't but.... yeah.. I do have to agree most of the animes aren't really good..
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the thing is while people are more focused on the crappier stuff, the true anime fan is watching all the good stuff behind that show in popularity. so even if you get narutards you know they are just retarded seeing as they dont even watch any of the good stuff
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Yeah... that'd be great. I always wanted downloaded version of Evangelion... instead of streaming. I saw the first ep on CR but download quality brings the true nature of a show!!!
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I agree. It really does seem like anime has been in a downfall. Unfortunatly there seems to be few noteworthy anime each season. Of course there were good series such as Death Note, Claymore, Code Geass, etc, but compared to the number of series that air, it's only a handfull. I also feel like for the fall season, there is very little "noteworthy" series. I remember when there use to be highly anticipated shows for a new season, and it dosen't seem that way. I don't know, hopefully it's just a slump, and at some point, the anime creation will get better.
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mushroomjay wrote:

Indeed Ed. If you could select five anime of this generation, which would you pick? Can you even pick five?


Monster. Nothing else matters. Except maybe Prince of Tennis. D: I like sweaty little boys.
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Ya, that's very sad..I found myself searching for older animes to watch instead of the newer ones (like Trigun, Berserk..) But don't forget that some of the older ones are also pretty much the same calibre as the ones you've mentioned (Dragonball, Pokemon, Yu-gi-oh (arrgh), Inuyasha etc.)
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mushroomjay wrote:

Indeed Ed. If you could select five anime of this generation, which would you pick? Can you even pick five?



Not really... my choices would either be old school (hence they aren't included) or probably strange choices that you'd think I'm insane, but I have my reasons.

1. Death Note
~ Brilliant in many ways, but only if you consider that parts when Light was up against L. The moment he died, the anime kinda ran off track and started flying all over the place. To make things worse, they released a Live Action movie which completely ruined the series, IMO. Despite this, it's still good enough to stand up, distinguishing itself from more mediocre titles.

2. Demashita! Powerpuff Girls Z
~ one of the less popular choices. I chose this because it's perhaps one of the best Japanese incarnations of a popular western idea that I've seen to date. It's fresh and original, yet keeping many elements that make the girls who they are. Solid and enjoyable for not just the children, but the older crowd as well (due to some comedy and some strange innuendoes). It's not exactly for everyone, but for the person who loves Anime, this is a fresh perspective that has yet to be trumped.

3. Nodame Cantabile
~ simple and sweet. Has the traditional aspects of a love/comedy anime, but delivers in spades. Also, it works as a great primer for the uninitiated in classical music. On the upside, it also featured a Live Action that was pretty good, in comparison to the movie cooked up by Death Note.


I can't really think of any more... many of the other anime I've watched are good, but not good enough to make me label it as one of my "favorites". Higurashi no Naku Koro ni is an example of this... maybe I just have to watch the second season...
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i think i know what your talking about. it seems like every romantic comedy anime is a copy of love hina. i haven't seen to much anime but im sure its the same for other genres, nothing is unique or fresh anymore.

ive tried watching new anime only to see the story go the overdone route of 'one guy surrounded by women! comedy ensues ' we can all hope it gets better
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edsamac wrote:
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni is an example of this... maybe I just have to watch the second season...


I really liked that show, but lost interest one episode into the second season.
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one of the failures i ever seen was Naruto Shippuuden
it keeps dragging things til i gave up on watching it
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lokita wrote:


edsamac wrote:
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni is an example of this... maybe I just have to watch the second season...


I really liked that show, but lost interest one episode into the second season.


Loki, the first arc was terrible. It was an Anime Only one... and they failed at it. Just skip the damn thing. I enjoyed it a wee bit but.... Satoko wants to protect Rika. Rika is talking to herself about complicated things, Satoko overhears.. and tries her best. But fails obviously. You find out a group of people are after Rika, and kill her. And oh the joy, you can skip the first arc, which is pretty lame. Just note there isn't NEARLY as much blood in the second season, the second season serves a different purpose... so don't expect much blood, except some guy did have a pervy nose bleed..
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there is so little anime left that I want to watch
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mushroomjay wrote:

Well, recently I've taken a notice to crappier anime becoming more popular. Not just recently either. I'm talking since.. What, 2000 anime has been in a steady decline. Mostly because of re-hash after re-hash. But anyway. Look at it like this.

But anyway, more specifically I'm talking about the spotlight of failure of this decade. You know, Naruto, Bleach, Haruhi, etc. Their mediocrity will continue to shine onto decades past, which is sad. anyway, discuss the downfall of anime, and bask in the shit storm that is anime of 2007.


It’s really as much the changing anime fandom as it is the anime itself. We see it a lot more than we used to, and what’s popular gets far bigger than it used to.

Stereotypical shonen action is hardly original to this generation. Naruto and Bleach are just the newest rehash of this. Sure each one gives it a new spin, but all in all, it's just the same thing remarketed for a new generation of 13 year old boys.

I remember when it was cool to hate DBZ. Was it really worthy of all the hate we snobby fans gave it? Probably not, but we were just sick to death hearing about it from idiot fans - everything from 13 year old boys to drunken fratboys showing up to our anime clubs. Same thing with shows like Naruto and Bleach now. Are they really as bad as we make them out to be? Not really, we’re just sick and tired about hearing young ignorant fans talk about how awesome they are, when they're really just mediocre. Not bad, but nowhere near as good as fans would leave you to believe.

I don't know why everyone hates on Haruhi so much, I thought it was wonderful and I've been watching anime for quite a while now. I think if you don't like moe-harem-bishoujo then Haruhi is pretty much the great satan, but I view her more as "our lord and saviour" since I love that genre. Overhyped? Sure, any anime popular in its time is overhyped (I used to hate hearing about cowboy bebop, trigun, Eva, FLCL, etc all the god damned time). It gets hard to keep the quality of an anime in persepective when rabid fans tend to just spoil it (probably why haven't bothered watching deathnote yet). Go back far enough and you'd be sick of hearing about any series that’s viewed as a classic.

If you’re an anime fan, you have to learn how to ignore hype (be it positive or negative) and just enjoy a series for its own merit. I may check out a series based on hype, but I only stick with it if I like it. Sometimes I check out a series just because snobby fans bashing on it.

That and the market has shifted. The current market has a lot more comedy and ecchi in it (or the “moe boom” as I like to call it). There is very little action outside of filler ridden cookie cutter schlock, and what little action there is outside of that, is usually crappy. This is the “moe” generation. That’s what it’ll be remembered for and there is nothing wrong with that. Things will shift again eventually. If you don’t like, anime has been around for a long long time, there are tons of great older series to watch instead.

There is some stuff I really miss from the "good old days," but this generation has quite a bit of positive going for it.

I miss quality cyberpunk. I miss quality mecha. I miss quality action. Hell, I miss magical girls (god bless you makers of nanoho, god bless you). I miss main characters who aren’t crying emo fags. Most gag-anime tends to rely too much on making fun of anime (hayate no gotuko, lucky star, etc), it’s still funny, but how about something original for a change? I think there is very little originality in character design now. Older animes could build up atmosphere better than new ones can (probably why I like key anime so much, there is a clear sense of atmosphere).

On the other hand, production values are out the roof now. I think there is greater emphasis on character development than there used to be. I like how there are a lot more romantic comedies targeted at guys without relying on some shonen element. I think plotlines are a lot more in depth and mature than they used to be. Anime isn’t near as dark as it used to be. I like the fact I don’t continually explain how all anime isn’t violent cartoon porn anymore. The huge harems filled with nothing but stereotypes are disappearing to be replaced with a fewer (but much more complex and developed) girls.
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yeah... most popular animes right now are just fail especially the poor excuse of an anime that is Naruturd Shitpoodung!!! <----- I HATE THIS!!!
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